Big Media Won't Touch Agenda 21

SierraTimes.com ^ | Feb 3, 2005 | Nancy Levant

[FreeReign]

Unfortunately the bill did not pass.

The bill shouldn't pass. It restates what is already in the Constitution. It gives credence to liberals who think that our Constitution doesn't make us sovereign -- that our sovereignty has to be established in some cheap HR bill.

It makes an ass out of U.S. Constitution.

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I'm not being nasty so don't take this the wrong way but, have you ever heard of the word 'usurped'?

With enough supporting it, anything can be over turned.

Look how close we came to sKerry winning the election. We missed a bullet on that one. I'm sure with him at the helm, this Agenda 21 would have been sped up to light speed.

[FreeReign]

I'm not being nasty so don't take this the wrong way but, have you ever heard of the word 'usurped'?

LOL! See my post #339. In that post I specifically reference hedgetrimmer's post #224.

Have you seen that post? What do you think my point was?

[FreeReign]

I'm not being nasty so don't take this the wrong way but, have you ever heard of the word 'usurped'?

LOL! See my post #339. In that post I specifically reference hedgetrimmer's post #224.

Have you seen that post? What do you think my point was?

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Your right to choose your vitamin, mineral and other supplements may end in June-August of this year (2005). After that U.S. supplements will be defined and controlled by the World Trade Organization (WTO) and the World Health Organization (WHO). The CODEX ALIMENTARIUS (Food Code) is setting the supplement standards for all countries in the WTO. They will be enforced by the WTO and will over ride U.S. laws. The U.S. President and Congress agreed to this take-over when the WTO Treaty was signed. Violations are punished by WTO trade sanctions. CODEX drastically restricts vitamins, minerals, herbs and other supplements. CODEX...

They will over ride U.S. laws.

This is on another thread.

But, like you said, they can't over ride US laws...right?

[FreeReign]

But, like you said, they can't over ride US laws...right?

I never said the above. For starters the statement is too ambiguous.

Don't put words in my month.

BTW, the example of the treaty you give is unsourced, and is highly ambiguous.

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hedgetrimmer post #224:I believe in the supremacy of the US Constitution. However there are people in power who put treaty obligations over their duty to protect the Constitution and individual rights. hedgetrimmer post #235: Yes it dissovles our soveiegnty when our congress agrees to sign treaties like this. If you do something that violates one of these treaties, you can be held liable by international organizations. Is that not weakening our sovereignty?

How do these two statements clash? In #224 he says, there are people in power who put treaty obligations over their duty to protect the Constitution and individual rights.

post #224,it dissolves our soverenignty. I see no clash in those two statements. Show me where I am wrong.

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You are missing the point. The WTO will be making our laws...not Americans. Little by little our sovereignty is being whittled away. In small increments.

That is the aim according to Agency 21.

[s2baccha]

I first heard about Agenda 21 while watching that 'kook' Alex Jones. It was on cable access, this was in '96. Could we, like Jon Stewart, be wrong about this guy?

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WASHINGTON, Feb. 2, 2005– The Office of the Acting Under Secretary for Food Safety, U.S. Department of Agriculture and the Food and Drug Administration of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, today announced a public meeting to provide information and receive comments on agenda items that will be discussed at the 26th Session of the Codex Committee on Methods of Analysis and Sampling in Budapest, Hungary, April 4 - 8, 2005. The public meeting will be held from 10:30 a.m. to 12 p.m., Tuesday, March 15, Conference Room 1A002 of the Harvey W. Wiley Federal Building, 5100 Paint Branch Parkway, College Park, MD. Agenda items for the meeting can be found at http://www.codexalimentarius.net/current.asp. The Codex Committee on Methods of Analysis and Sampling (CCMAS) specifies reference methods of analysis and sampling and considers specific sampling and analysis problems. Codex was created in 1963 by two United Nations organizations, the Food and Agriculture Organization and the World Health Organization. Codex develops food standards, guidelines and codes of practice in order to protect the health of consumers, ensure fair trade practices in the food trade and promote coordination of food standards undertaken by international governmental and non-governmental organizations. For information concerning the public meeting or for a sign language interpreter, contact Dr. Gregory Diachenko, Director, Division of Chemistry Research and Environmental Review, Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition, FDA, Harvey Wiley Federal Building, 5100 Paint Branch Parkway, College Park, MD, 20740, at (301) 436-1898 or by fax at (301) 436-2634.

How much you wanna bet it passes?

[FreeReign]

post #224,it dissolves our soverenignty. I see no clash in those two statements. Show me where I am wrong.

Post one describes an illegal usurpation of the Constitution -- a realistic danger. The Constitution would still sovereign -- the supreme power.

Post two says that the Constitution isn't the supreme power. That it can dissolved by a simple vote of congress and a simple stroke of the presidential pen.

[FreeReign]

You are missing the point. The WTO will be making our laws...not Americans. Little by little our sovereignty is being whittled away. In small increments.

No you missed the point. The WTO can't constitutionally make our laws. If the WTO tries to make our laws and if any branch of our government goes along with such, then it is our own government that usurpts the U.S. Constitution.

That is the aim according to Agency 21.

I know what is the aim of Agency 21. However, the UN has no sovereign power here. Only a branch of our own government can usurpt our constitution.

[sauropod]

I see from the keywords that some FReepers are like dinosaurs.

They have small brains and refuse to learn.

[sauropod]

I've read Agenda 21.

Have you?

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Sorry for the delay.

I see your point.

[DoughtyOne]

And I will be happy to join you in that effort.

I'd appreciate it if we could get someone decent to run in next spring though. I don't want him to serve a full term after this cut-down version.


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[sauropod]

You really need to get an effin' clue.

[sauropod]

Correct. That is the definition of fascism as an economic system.

[Paul_Denton]

Hi NRA2BFree. I have always hated the UN. The UN has proven be untrustworthy (Oil for Food) and even hostile (various massacres in Africa and having Hamas members on its Payroll willingly) in the past and no doubt they will continue their evil, dictator-coddling ways. I do not trust them one bit for ANYTHING. What protects us right now is the 2nd Amendment, but the UN has sympathizers here (leftists) trying to eat away at our rights. My state's capital has on the table a bill to ban all firearms from Olympyia, and designates certain areas where no one (not even CCW permit holders) can carry. San Francisco is proposing a similar ban. We are lucky to have president Bush. While he is way too soft on immigration issues, only him kept us out of the ICC, Kyoto and other damaging treaties, both meant to undermine us economically and politically.

[sauropod]

The Bible says, "Come. Let us reason together."

Pay attention to what has been offered here in the way of information and do your homework.

God does not say to turn our brains off just because we are Christians.