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To: mudblood
Hmmm... Seems that if one wants to speak to Spanish-speaking people on an issue, one would speak to Spanish-speaking people. Speaking Spanish in a legislative body for the benefit of an audience that is not in the room is nothing more than stagecraft -

Go ahead and believe what you've stated, simplistic though it may be. You probably think that 'personal accounts' will allow you to 'keep your money' too - and won't make an effort to actually figure out what you are being sold.

The cult of personality around the Admin that causes so many so-called conservatives to rush to abandon conservative priciples is mind-boggling.

45 posted on 02/03/2005 10:22:21 AM PST by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: lugsoul
The cult of personality around the Admin that causes so many so-called conservatives to rush to abandon conservative priciples is mind-boggling.

What is not conservative about reaching out to particular groups and let them know that we believe in the same things they do? And doing it in their own language.

49 posted on 02/03/2005 10:26:47 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: lugsoul

"You probably think that 'personal accounts' will allow you to 'keep your money' too"

I like what I've heard about this so far and am awaiting more info. My big worry is that it will over-inflate the value of everyone's stocks, causing a huge sell-off, essentially giving away all our social-security cash to smart investors.

1) Conservatives - I voted for Bush following 9/11 and started listening to the conservative programs like Rush, Hannity and Michael Graham, watching Fox News, etc. I'm hawkish on the war, I want to pay less taxes, I think the level of incivility in our culture is shocking, and perhaps a few other "conervative" things, but I'm not a robot. This guy, and Bush, is destroying the Democrats' monopoly on all-things-minority - and I love it. Idealism - be it conservative or liberal - has a place in the world, and that place is in forums like this, universities, books, etc. But it usually doesn't translate 1-to-1 when it gets applied. I'm capable of a certain level of hypocracy in my life. If speaking spanish to an empty room makes me less of a conservative, so be it.


65 posted on 02/03/2005 10:41:05 AM PST by mudblood
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To: lugsoul
Speaking Spanish in a legislative body for the benefit of an audience that is not in the room is nothing more than stagecraft -

The Spanish-speaking audience was in the room thanks to Spanish-language television cameras trained on Martinez. And what's wrong with a little stagecraft? It's an integral part of politics. Had Kerry not been such a bad actor, he might be president today.

94 posted on 02/03/2005 11:13:44 AM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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