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To: bayourod

Bayourod, your posts are some of the few I see on the forum, that go from one falsehood or flawed premise to another to another.

That first paragraph was so powerful, I'll just refrain from responding. It would be pointless. It didn't even make sense.

Your question about more children is likewise another waste of time. If you don't know the difference, then you're not qualified to participate in this discussion.

Then you're off to California and saying that it's isn't Bush's fault. Boy if that isn't your mantra. It isn't Bush's fault, and by God it sure as hell isn't tens of millions of illegal allien's fault either. Whose fault is it? Well it must be California's. California now sets national guidelines on immigration, healthcare mandates, education guidelines, and oh yess, that $3 billion dollar gene research program caused it all. LOL.

Let me see, you think ten thousand illegals making minimum wage would be an economic boon for any neighborhood. Okay, we've got that on the record. Only California's high realestate makes it impossible for illegals to house, feed, clothe, provide medical care and educate their children. Hmmm, shere genious.

"Other states subsidize..." Need I respond to this mindset.

Well because the United States Constitution says the President 'SHALL' protect the states from invasion. That's the main reason why I say that you don't respect the U.S. Constitution and the laws of our nation.

Oh now I get it. You think all local politicians are president. Oh okay. Thanks.


46 posted on 02/03/2005 1:22:44 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: DoughtyOne
"Your question about more children is likewise another waste of time. If you don't know the difference, then you're not qualified to participate in this discussion. "

If it's so obvious, apparent and simple why don't you just verbalize for everyone what the difference is between baby John and baby Juan?

50 posted on 02/03/2005 1:41:45 AM PST by bayourod (Unless we get over 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: DoughtyOne
"Let me see, you think ten thousand illegals making minimum wage would be an economic boon for any neighborhood."

Illegal immigrants make more than minimum wage because they perform more valuable jobs than taking orders at McDonalds. Laborers start at about $10 an hour here.

And yes, ten thousand employees making minimum wage mean several thousand managers, foremen, accountants, secretaries, salesmen and other support personnel are making far more than minimum wages, and the companies are paying taxes. Then you have the multiplier effect which means grocery stores, gas stations, Kmarts, dry cleaners, plumbers, doctors, car dealers, schools...

10,000 employees would support a town of probably 20,000.

What type occupation do you have that doesn't benefit from economic activity? And why do you want the rest of us to suffer from closing businesses?

51 posted on 02/03/2005 1:53:49 AM PST by bayourod (Unless we get over 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: DoughtyOne
""Other states subsidize..." Need I respond to this mindset."

If you understood it you might.

Slums can be handled locally. The city condemns a slum neighborhood, buys the land, bulldozes it down and then sells it to developers who agree to build low cost housing in exchange for tax abatements, low interest bond financing etc... Then the city uses their bond rating to help lower income people buy the homes. The city has replaced a slum with a new subdivision at very little cost to the taxpayers. Everybody wins, especially the city by increasing its tax base.

But if the citizens of California aren't aware that their local governments can do things to clean up slums that's their loss.

54 posted on 02/03/2005 2:05:02 AM PST by bayourod (Unless we get over 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: DoughtyOne; bayourod
Like a broken clock, Bayourod is at least right twice a day.

Click here and read Governor Huckelbee's RINO-like comments

I believe that there is plenty of blame to go around though I think President Bush sets the tone on this subject but at least he never said the things that the present Governor of Arkansas said.

If a Zell Miller type of Democrat would run for governor of Arkansas against the Huckelee, I believe he'd win and deservedly so.

BTW, Bayourod. Any input on what Huckleberry said about this bill to cut off state aid to illegals?

74 posted on 02/03/2005 4:38:45 AM PST by Missouri
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