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Democrats were inviting senior citizens to the House galleries...

Give these two jokers binoculars and escort them to the back row upstairs...

1 posted on 02/02/2005 5:25:21 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

This is ridiculous to pit young people against the old. Seniors have every right to voice their opinions and the majority are concerned. Someone said that all seniors over 65 are millionaires, really? What planet did you come from. My dear grandparents worked all their lives, they played by the rules as good republicans they never asked for a handout. They believed in SS to be there when they retired and the seniors who collected their benefits were both lib and Republican the libs were not the only ones who have both contributed and collected for over 30 years..

Republican talking heads all appear to agree in whats the rush to do this?


2 posted on 02/02/2005 5:32:27 PM PST by stopem
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To: Libloather

I've got no problem with that. As long as they sit up there and behave themselves like good little seniors, more power to them.

I keep waiting for a Democrat to stand up and act like an adult. It's just isn't happening.

Until one does, they'll continue to lose like the highschool outcast does for class president.

Democrats, grow the hell up! You grow more absurd, more laughable, more carnival barker-like, each day. Grow a spine. Admit that there are moral values. Adopt one or two of them. Respect our military, and act like it. No, I mean really respect them.

Ted, Nancy, Hillary, the others of you (and you know who you are) who have negatives over 99.99%, be good soldiers and fade away.

We are a Constitutional Republic, if you can't act like you understand that, and support it, find something else to do with your days.


3 posted on 02/02/2005 5:33:26 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Libloather

They are going to invite people who won't even be eligible to participate in the personal accounts under discussion?


4 posted on 02/02/2005 5:35:36 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Libloather
To underscore what they said was the unpopularity of Bush's Social Security plan, about 15 House Democrats were giving to constituents, including older Americans, the ticket that lawmakers each receive for a gallery seat during Bush's speech.

 

5 posted on 02/02/2005 5:37:55 PM PST by Semi Civil Servant (IRAQ the vote!)
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To: Libloather

"This is not a dictatorship," Reid said. He said the Constitution gives the Senate minority the power to use delaying tactics to derail "mischief and bad things."

mischief and bad things?


6 posted on 02/02/2005 5:41:40 PM PST by Ellesu
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To: Libloather

they're just what we need...goofy looking and sounding.

they are so out of step with most americans that they are an advertisement for the demise of the democrat party.


9 posted on 02/02/2005 5:48:45 PM PST by ken21 (most news today is either stupid or evil.)
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To: Libloather

He won't do it, but just a mention that he'd even consider
the AARP investment model of 38 mutual funds for people
50+ would be a great line.

AARP is demogoguing this issue, and here they have Scudder
Investments running branded mutual funds of which AARP gets
a slice.


11 posted on 02/02/2005 5:53:48 PM PST by plangent
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So this will be another re-enactment of the the Rep convention and Inaugural? Gee, that worked so well for the Dems! Sure Libs. Bring the activists out. Old people with faces scrunched in hatred hollering obscneities and untruths will reaaaalllly win people over.


12 posted on 02/02/2005 5:54:06 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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Well .. what do you expect. The dems already told the repubs - because of the somberness of our time (What ???) they TOLD the repubs to hold down their applause.

But .. they have invited seniors who are against the President's SS plan and expect them to make a lot of noise .. betcha!


16 posted on 02/02/2005 6:06:46 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: Libloather

I'm one of the most conservative political minds you'll find. This tendency stretches from social to fiscal issues for me and 99.9% of the time I find myself well to the right of President Bush.

That having been said, I'm a bit nervous about his plans for Social Security reform. Everyone has been calling this plan "Social Security Privatization" - but is it? It would be one thing if the Republicans had put forth a plan that would simply refund Social Security Taxes from the IRS to the individual's designated defined contribution retirement account. This would represent true social security privatization and would give the individual citizen true control over their retirement destiny.

I don't think that is what is going to happen. With their departure from a limited-government philosophy, Republicans enjoy having their hands on your money as much as do Democrats. That's why this plan doesn't call for sending back one red cent of your money. Instead, you are going to be given "personal savings accounts" in which to accrue this money.

To me, this sounds a lot like a nationalized 401k plan. While such accounts - if they would function like individual brokerage accounts - would be a huge improvement over the current situation, I suspect they won't. Instead, I suspect they'll function exactly like a 401k plan where the "investor" has the opportunity to chosen from a handful of investment baskets.

One has to wonder how the "approved" funds and brokerage houses for what will certainly be a multi-billion dollar financial business will get that approval...and when you start thinking along these lines "Social Security Reform" starts sounding a bit more like a government controlled stock/bond market by the day.


17 posted on 02/02/2005 7:15:36 PM PST by Old_Mil
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To: Libloather

The usual Rats playbook, get the senior citizens stirred up by telling them that Bush will cut off Social Security. Bush is right thiose of us in the babyboomer generation simply don't have enough kids to make Social Security work as a pay as you go system. Those getting SS benefits today are getting far more than they ever contributed paid by those of us still working. What's worse is that those of us who have paid in more will not live long enough to collect even our own contributions let along have any means of passing these contributions on to our kids or grandkids.


18 posted on 02/02/2005 7:21:45 PM PST by The Great RJ
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Neither should we slip out the back door, falsely declaring victory but leaving chaos," said Pelosi, D-Calif. "We have never heard a clear plan from this administration for ending our presence in Iraq." Ah, Nancy, we have never heard a clear plan from the prior administration for ending our presence in Kosovo and Bosnia.

HMMMMMM.

19 posted on 02/02/2005 7:53:51 PM PST by harpo11 (.)
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