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Russia to launch spy satellites for Iran
THE HINDU ^ | February 2, 2005 | Vladimir Radyuhin

Posted on 02/02/2005 3:59:57 PM PST by TapTheSource

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To: TapTheSource

CIA, WHERE ARE YOU? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


21 posted on 02/02/2005 4:40:20 PM PST by sanchez810
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To: Paul_Denton
The Putin fans sure are quiet.

Bwahahahahaha! They're trying to think of a good excuse as to how this is a "good" thing

22 posted on 02/02/2005 4:41:54 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

I used to be hopeful about Putin, but no more. Russia is our enemy once again. China always has been. I'd still like to see Putin's reaction to the PLA when it takes over Siberia.


23 posted on 02/02/2005 4:46:33 PM PST by datura (Destroy The UN, the MSM, and China. The rest will fall into line once we get rid of these.)
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To: Howlin

Sure is. Bulletin! Russia is not our friend!


24 posted on 02/02/2005 4:46:37 PM PST by cardinal4 (George W Bush-Bringing a new democracy every term..)
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To: TapTheSource

Uhhhh, this can't be good.


25 posted on 02/02/2005 4:50:02 PM PST by b4its2late (The Lord made man before woman to give him time to think of an answer for her first question.)
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To: steveegg

Wasn't there something about Russia and Syria just last week?


26 posted on 02/02/2005 4:59:12 PM PST by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- and a Bush Republican!!!!)
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To: Howlin
Wasn't there something about Russia and Syria just last week?

Lost the link, but I remember seeing something about an advanced-arms deal between the two (TapTheSource posts a lot of these items).

27 posted on 02/02/2005 5:03:59 PM PST by steveegg (The secret goal of lieberals - to ensure that no future generation can possibly equal theirs.)
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To: TapTheSource

bump


28 posted on 02/02/2005 5:13:19 PM PST by RippleFire ("It was just a scratch")
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To: TapTheSource

I've been apologizing for the Russians for a long time. It's over now. They seem to want to fall back into tyranny and support evil rather than be a leader in revitalizing the Christian West. So be it.


29 posted on 02/02/2005 5:23:01 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: TapTheSource
Look at what he and his KGB strategists have been able to get away with since becoming our "ally" in the War on Terror.

Putin is Bush's ally, not the United States'..or mine. Girlfriend's dad who is Russian: "Never trust a Russian."

30 posted on 02/02/2005 5:28:39 PM PST by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: b4its2late

For a lot of reasons that can't be mentioned on this forum, it is a most unfortunate development.


31 posted on 02/02/2005 5:31:42 PM PST by Skwid
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To: TapTheSource

China and Russia are both aligning with Iran. China just signed big oil deals with them and will prolly sell them military equipment and nuclear know how. If we cut and run in Iraq they will lord over Middle East oil sales, profits and production.

We are PLAYING FOR HIGH STAKES in Iraq


32 posted on 02/02/2005 5:34:56 PM PST by dennisw (Pryce-Jones: Arab culture is steeped in conspiracy theories, half truths, and nursery rhyme politics)
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To: TapTheSource

I hope their efforts fail miserably and cost them dearly.


33 posted on 02/02/2005 5:37:53 PM PST by jonrick46
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To: Dat Mon
"No wonder Iran is so arrogant...they are being courted by both Russia and China... The world is getting very dangerous...lots of chess pieces being moved."

And the US is still the one doing the "moving."

Once the Iraqi people straighten up a bit, we're gonna be flexing MORE muscle -- Russia and China be damned.

34 posted on 02/02/2005 5:41:29 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Paul_Denton

Time is of the essence. Otherwise half the world will burn.


35 posted on 02/02/2005 5:41:52 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: TapTheSource

New cold war inc?? Russia going to start to fund Iran and there insurgents?


36 posted on 02/02/2005 5:44:59 PM PST by Next_Time_NJ (NJ demorat exterminator)
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To: F16Fighter
Once the Iraqi people straighten up a bit, we're gonna be flexing MORE muscle -- Russia and China be damned.

The new Iraqi Army will take awhile to build but when its done we will have a Japan in the mideast. Iran would not dare screw with them or us.

37 posted on 02/02/2005 5:50:07 PM PST by Paul_Denton (Shoot first and ask questions later)
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To: Arkinsaw
Thank you. I heartily appreciate it when a patriot sees things clearly and puts his country first. Seriously.
38 posted on 02/02/2005 6:59:55 PM PST by JasonC
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To: cardinal4; steveegg; Paul_Denton; garyhope; NonValueAdded; K4Harty; Momaw Nadon; Pyro7480; ...

If you really wish to understand Soviet/Russian long-range strategy and “The Final Phase”, I suggest you read two books by KGB defector Anatoliy Golitsyn. (“New Lies For Old”, 1984 and “The Perestroika Deception”, 1995). Hopefully, the following excerpts will prompt you to purchase and read these books carefully:

‘PERESTROIKA’, THE FINAL PHASE: ITS MAIN OBJECTIVES
(Taken from Anatoliy Golitsyn’s “The Perestroika Deception,” Edward Harle: London, 1995, pp. 17-19)

‘The new method sees ‘perestroika’, not as a surprising and spontaneous change, but as the logical result of thirty years of preparation and as the next and final phase of the strategy: it sees it in a broader context than Soviet ‘openness’ has revealed.’

‘It sees it, not only as a renewal of Soviet society, but as a global strategic design for ‘restructuring’ the entire capitalist world.’

‘The following strategic objectives of ‘perestroika’ may be distinguished:

For the USSR

(a) ‘Restructuring’ and revitalization of the Soviet socialist economy through the incorporation of some elements of the market economy.

(b) ‘Restructuring’ of the Stalinist regime into a form of ‘Communist democracy’ with an appearance of political pluralism [= ‘democratism’, or false democracy].

(c) ‘Reconsructing’ a repressive regime with a brutal face into an attractive socialist model with a human façade and seeming similarity to the Swedish social democratic system.’

For Eastern Europe

‘Economic and political ‘restructuring’ of the existing regimes into pseudo-social democratic models while preserving specific national historical features such as the strong Catholic Socialist tradition in Poland and the pre-war democratic tradition in Czechoslovakia.’

For Western Europe

(a) ‘Bringing about a new political alliance between the pseudo-social democratic regimes in the USSR and Eastern Europe and the Euro-Communist parties and genuine social democratic parties in Western Europe.

(b) ‘Restructuring’ political and military blocs—NATO and the Warsaw Pact—and the creation of a singe ‘Europe from the Atlantic to the Urals’ incorporating a reunited, neutral Germany.’

For the main US alliances

(a) ‘Splitting the United States, Western Europe and Japan.

(b) Dissolution of NATO and the US-Japan security pact, and the withdrawal of US troops from Western Europe and Japan.’

For Third World countries

‘The introduction and promotion of a new Soviet model with a mixed economy and a human face in Latin America, Africa and Asia through a joint campaign by the pseudo-social democratic regimes of the USSR and Eastern Europe and the genuine social democrats of Western Europe led by the Socialist International.’

For the United States

(a) ‘To neutralize the influence of the anti-Communist political right in the American political parties and to create favourable conditions for a victory of the radical left in the 1992 US presidential elections (In this context, Clinton’s stay with top Communists in Czechoslovakia and the Soviet Union during the latter part of the Vietnam war has profound and disturbing implications—TTS).

(b) To ‘restructure’ the American military, political, economic and social status quo to accommodate greater convergence between the Soviet and American systems and the eventual creation of a single World Government.’

The paramount global objective

‘The paramount global objective of the strategy of ‘perestroika’ is to weaken and neutralize anti-Communist ideology and the influence of anti-Communists in political life in the United States, Western Europe and elsewhere—presenting them as anachronistic survivors of the Cold War, reactionaries and obstacles to ‘restructuring’ and peace. Anyone who warns about Moscow’s true objectives is automatically branded a ‘Cold Warrior’, even by people who have doubts about Moscow’s motives.’

THE ESSENCE OF ‘PERESTROIKA’: AN APPLICATION OF 1920s’ LENINISM

‘The new method penetrates the façade, tears the verbal mask off ‘perestroika’ and reveals its true meaning—which Gorbachev and ‘glasnost’ have failed to do. Lenin’s teaching and the experience of the New Economic Policy [NEP] are keys to understanding the essence of ‘persestroika’ and the reasons for Gorbachev’s downgrading and renunciation of elements of ideological orthodoxy like the class struggle and his emphasis on common interests and the benefits of close cooperation.’

‘Lenin advised the Communists that they must be prepared to ‘resort to all sorts of stratagems, manoeuvres, illegal methods, evasions and subterfuge’ to achieve their objectives. This advice was given on the eve of his reintroduction of limited capitalism in Russia in his work ‘Left Wing Communism, an Infantile Disorder’.

‘The new method sees ‘perestroika’ as an application of Lenin’s advice in new conditions. Another speech of Lenin’s in the NEP period at the Comintern Congress in July 1921 is again highly relevant to understanding ‘perestroika’. ‘Our only strategy at present’, wrote Lenin, ‘is to become stronger and, therefore, wiser, more reasonable, more opportunistic. The more opportunistic, the sooner will you again assemble the masses around you. When we have won over the masses by our reasonable approach, we shall then apply offensive tactics in the strictest sense of the word.’

THE WORLDWIDE COMMUNIST FEDERATION (should they succeed…taken from Anatoliy Golitsyn’s book “New Lies For Old,” Dodd-Mead, 1984, pp. 346-347)

‘Integration of the Communist Bloc would follow the lines envisaged by Lenin when the Third Communist International was founded. That is to say, the Soviet Union and China would not absorb one another or other Communist states. All the countries of the European and Asiatic Communist zones, together with new Communist states in Europe and the Third World, would join a supranational economic and political Communist federation (this is precisely what the Soviets have in mind for the impending EU collective—TTS). Soviet-Albanian, Soviet-Yugoslav, and Soviet-Romanian disputes and ‘differences’ would be resolved in the wake, or possibly in advance of, Sino-Soviet reconciliation (Golitsyn goes to great lengths in previous chapters to show how the split between the Soviets and the Chinese was completely healed immediately after Stalin’s death…however, they continued the illusion of a split to dupe the West into backing alternating sides, depending on circumstances—TTS). The political, economic, military, diplomatic, and ideological cooperation between all the Communist states, at present partially concealed, would become clearly visible. There might even be public acknowledgment that the splits and disputes were long-term disinformation operations that had successfully deceived the “imperialist” powers. The effect on Western morale can be imagined’ (the Soviets have employed this tactic on numerous occasions—TTS).

‘In the new worldwide Communist federation the present different brands of Communism would disappear, to be replaced by a uniform, rigorous brand of Leninism. The process would be painful. Concessions made in the name of economic and political reform would be withdrawn. Religious and intellectual dissent would be suppressed. Nationalism and all other forms of genuine oppositions would be crushed. Those who had taken advantage of détente to establish friendly Western contacts would be rebuked or persecuted like those Soviet officers who worked with the Allies during the Second World War. In new Communist states—for example, in France, Italy, and the Third World—the “alienated classes” would be reeducated. Show trials of “imperialist agents” would be staged. Action would be taken against nationalist and social democratic leaders, party activists, former civil servants, officers, and priests. The last vestiges of private enterprise and ownership would be obliterated. Nationalization of industry, finance, and agriculture would be completed. In fact, all the totalitarian features familiar from the early stages of the Soviet revolution and the postwar Stalinist years in Eastern Europe might be expected to reappear, especially in those countries newly won for Communism. Unchallenged and unchallengeable, a true Communist monolith would dominate the world.’


39 posted on 02/02/2005 7:12:13 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: TapTheSource

Putin still has that ancient Russian dream of having a warm water port. Communist or not, Russia will never give up this dream unless they are totally defeated.


40 posted on 02/02/2005 7:26:20 PM PST by appeal2
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