Posted on 02/02/2005 3:59:57 PM PST by TapTheSource
CIA, WHERE ARE YOU? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bwahahahahaha! They're trying to think of a good excuse as to how this is a "good" thing
I used to be hopeful about Putin, but no more. Russia is our enemy once again. China always has been. I'd still like to see Putin's reaction to the PLA when it takes over Siberia.
Sure is. Bulletin! Russia is not our friend!
Uhhhh, this can't be good.
Wasn't there something about Russia and Syria just last week?
Lost the link, but I remember seeing something about an advanced-arms deal between the two (TapTheSource posts a lot of these items).
bump
I've been apologizing for the Russians for a long time. It's over now. They seem to want to fall back into tyranny and support evil rather than be a leader in revitalizing the Christian West. So be it.
Putin is Bush's ally, not the United States'..or mine. Girlfriend's dad who is Russian: "Never trust a Russian."
For a lot of reasons that can't be mentioned on this forum, it is a most unfortunate development.
China and Russia are both aligning with Iran. China just signed big oil deals with them and will prolly sell them military equipment and nuclear know how. If we cut and run in Iraq they will lord over Middle East oil sales, profits and production.
We are PLAYING FOR HIGH STAKES in Iraq
I hope their efforts fail miserably and cost them dearly.
And the US is still the one doing the "moving."
Once the Iraqi people straighten up a bit, we're gonna be flexing MORE muscle -- Russia and China be damned.
Time is of the essence. Otherwise half the world will burn.
New cold war inc?? Russia going to start to fund Iran and there insurgents?
The new Iraqi Army will take awhile to build but when its done we will have a Japan in the mideast. Iran would not dare screw with them or us.
If you really wish to understand Soviet/Russian long-range strategy and The Final Phase, I suggest you read two books by KGB defector Anatoliy Golitsyn. (New Lies For Old, 1984 and The Perestroika Deception, 1995). Hopefully, the following excerpts will prompt you to purchase and read these books carefully:
PERESTROIKA, THE FINAL PHASE: ITS MAIN OBJECTIVES
(Taken from Anatoliy Golitsyns The Perestroika Deception, Edward Harle: London, 1995, pp. 17-19)
The new method sees perestroika, not as a surprising and spontaneous change, but as the logical result of thirty years of preparation and as the next and final phase of the strategy: it sees it in a broader context than Soviet openness has revealed.
It sees it, not only as a renewal of Soviet society, but as a global strategic design for restructuring the entire capitalist world.
The following strategic objectives of perestroika may be distinguished:
For the USSR
(a) Restructuring and revitalization of the Soviet socialist economy through the incorporation of some elements of the market economy.
(b) Restructuring of the Stalinist regime into a form of Communist democracy with an appearance of political pluralism [= democratism, or false democracy].
(c) Reconsructing a repressive regime with a brutal face into an attractive socialist model with a human façade and seeming similarity to the Swedish social democratic system.
For Eastern Europe
Economic and political restructuring of the existing regimes into pseudo-social democratic models while preserving specific national historical features such as the strong Catholic Socialist tradition in Poland and the pre-war democratic tradition in Czechoslovakia.
For Western Europe
(a) Bringing about a new political alliance between the pseudo-social democratic regimes in the USSR and Eastern Europe and the Euro-Communist parties and genuine social democratic parties in Western Europe.
(b) Restructuring political and military blocsNATO and the Warsaw Pactand the creation of a singe Europe from the Atlantic to the Urals incorporating a reunited, neutral Germany.
For the main US alliances
(a) Splitting the United States, Western Europe and Japan.
(b) Dissolution of NATO and the US-Japan security pact, and the withdrawal of US troops from Western Europe and Japan.
For Third World countries
The introduction and promotion of a new Soviet model with a mixed economy and a human face in Latin America, Africa and Asia through a joint campaign by the pseudo-social democratic regimes of the USSR and Eastern Europe and the genuine social democrats of Western Europe led by the Socialist International.
For the United States
(a) To neutralize the influence of the anti-Communist political right in the American political parties and to create favourable conditions for a victory of the radical left in the 1992 US presidential elections (In this context, Clintons stay with top Communists in Czechoslovakia and the Soviet Union during the latter part of the Vietnam war has profound and disturbing implicationsTTS).
(b) To restructure the American military, political, economic and social status quo to accommodate greater convergence between the Soviet and American systems and the eventual creation of a single World Government.
The paramount global objective
The paramount global objective of the strategy of perestroika is to weaken and neutralize anti-Communist ideology and the influence of anti-Communists in political life in the United States, Western Europe and elsewherepresenting them as anachronistic survivors of the Cold War, reactionaries and obstacles to restructuring and peace. Anyone who warns about Moscows true objectives is automatically branded a Cold Warrior, even by people who have doubts about Moscows motives.
THE ESSENCE OF PERESTROIKA: AN APPLICATION OF 1920s LENINISM
The new method penetrates the façade, tears the verbal mask off perestroika and reveals its true meaningwhich Gorbachev and glasnost have failed to do. Lenins teaching and the experience of the New Economic Policy [NEP] are keys to understanding the essence of persestroika and the reasons for Gorbachevs downgrading and renunciation of elements of ideological orthodoxy like the class struggle and his emphasis on common interests and the benefits of close cooperation.
Lenin advised the Communists that they must be prepared to resort to all sorts of stratagems, manoeuvres, illegal methods, evasions and subterfuge to achieve their objectives. This advice was given on the eve of his reintroduction of limited capitalism in Russia in his work Left Wing Communism, an Infantile Disorder.
The new method sees perestroika as an application of Lenins advice in new conditions. Another speech of Lenins in the NEP period at the Comintern Congress in July 1921 is again highly relevant to understanding perestroika. Our only strategy at present, wrote Lenin, is to become stronger and, therefore, wiser, more reasonable, more opportunistic. The more opportunistic, the sooner will you again assemble the masses around you. When we have won over the masses by our reasonable approach, we shall then apply offensive tactics in the strictest sense of the word.
THE WORLDWIDE COMMUNIST FEDERATION (should they succeed
taken from Anatoliy Golitsyns book New Lies For Old, Dodd-Mead, 1984, pp. 346-347)
Integration of the Communist Bloc would follow the lines envisaged by Lenin when the Third Communist International was founded. That is to say, the Soviet Union and China would not absorb one another or other Communist states. All the countries of the European and Asiatic Communist zones, together with new Communist states in Europe and the Third World, would join a supranational economic and political Communist federation (this is precisely what the Soviets have in mind for the impending EU collectiveTTS). Soviet-Albanian, Soviet-Yugoslav, and Soviet-Romanian disputes and differences would be resolved in the wake, or possibly in advance of, Sino-Soviet reconciliation (Golitsyn goes to great lengths in previous chapters to show how the split between the Soviets and the Chinese was completely healed immediately after Stalins death
however, they continued the illusion of a split to dupe the West into backing alternating sides, depending on circumstancesTTS). The political, economic, military, diplomatic, and ideological cooperation between all the Communist states, at present partially concealed, would become clearly visible. There might even be public acknowledgment that the splits and disputes were long-term disinformation operations that had successfully deceived the imperialist powers. The effect on Western morale can be imagined (the Soviets have employed this tactic on numerous occasionsTTS).
In the new worldwide Communist federation the present different brands of Communism would disappear, to be replaced by a uniform, rigorous brand of Leninism. The process would be painful. Concessions made in the name of economic and political reform would be withdrawn. Religious and intellectual dissent would be suppressed. Nationalism and all other forms of genuine oppositions would be crushed. Those who had taken advantage of détente to establish friendly Western contacts would be rebuked or persecuted like those Soviet officers who worked with the Allies during the Second World War. In new Communist statesfor example, in France, Italy, and the Third Worldthe alienated classes would be reeducated. Show trials of imperialist agents would be staged. Action would be taken against nationalist and social democratic leaders, party activists, former civil servants, officers, and priests. The last vestiges of private enterprise and ownership would be obliterated. Nationalization of industry, finance, and agriculture would be completed. In fact, all the totalitarian features familiar from the early stages of the Soviet revolution and the postwar Stalinist years in Eastern Europe might be expected to reappear, especially in those countries newly won for Communism. Unchallenged and unchallengeable, a true Communist monolith would dominate the world.
Putin still has that ancient Russian dream of having a warm water port. Communist or not, Russia will never give up this dream unless they are totally defeated.
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