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"Homosexual unions are totally lacking in the biological and anthropological elements of marriage and family which would be the basis, on the level of reason, for granting them legal recognition. Such unions are not able to contribute in a proper way to the procreation and survival of the human race. The possibility of using recently discovered methods of artificial reproduction, beyond involving a grave lack of respect for human dignity,(15) does nothing to alter this inadequacy."
CONSIDERATIONS REGARDING PROPOSALS TO GIVE LEGAL RECOGNITION TO UNIONS BETWEEN HOMOSEXUAL PERSONS
1 posted on 02/02/2005 12:17:09 PM PST by NYer
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The Knights and the lesbians

Sounds like a revision to the Arthurian Legend.

2 posted on 02/02/2005 12:18:13 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...
The Knights, adhering to church teaching, which is against homosexual marriage, cancelled a rental contract that had been signed, returned the couple's deposit and paid for both the rental of a new hall and the reprinting of wedding invitations after Ms. Chymyshyn and Ms. Smith complained that invitations listing the hall's address for their reception had been mailed.

Catholic Ping - please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


3 posted on 02/02/2005 12:19:01 PM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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""Homosexual unions are totally lacking in the biological and anthropological elements of marriage and family which would be the basis, on the level of reason, for granting them legal recognition. Such unions are not able to contribute in a proper way to the procreation and survival of the human race. The possibility of using recently discovered methods of artificial reproduction, beyond involving a grave lack of respect for human dignity,(15) does nothing to alter this inadequacy.""

BINGO!


4 posted on 02/02/2005 12:21:03 PM PST by international american (Tagline melting.............................................)
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Ms. findlay, who does not use capital letters in the spelling of her name,

Pretentious twit alert.

5 posted on 02/02/2005 12:21:14 PM PST by atomicpossum (I am the Cat that walks by himself, and all places are alike to me.)
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Asking the K of C to reant a hall for a Dyke marriage is like asking the NAACP to host a KKK ralley.,P.What the ^%#& were these "women" thinking??

Oh, I get it. They weren't thinking!

7 posted on 02/02/2005 12:25:21 PM PST by FixitGuy
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VIVAT JESU!


8 posted on 02/02/2005 12:27:38 PM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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Knights of Columbus ~ private organization ~ members only.

Knights of Columbus Hall ~ private property - no dykes.


9 posted on 02/02/2005 12:27:45 PM PST by Beckwith (Barbara Boxer is the Wicked Witch of the West . . .)
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The real problem is the whole concept of laws against discrimination.

A free people doesn't need the some government bureaucrat to decide for them what is a "bona fide and justifiable reason" to discriminate. The should be able to buy, sell, rent, hire from whomever for whatever reason they wish.
10 posted on 02/02/2005 12:29:25 PM PST by Truthsearcher
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Calling people a 'minority group' because they do evil deeds while the vast majority of people do not do evil deeds is a slap in the face of legitimate minorities.
13 posted on 02/02/2005 12:31:02 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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G'day, Bruce!

Shall we read the rules again?

16 posted on 02/02/2005 12:33:05 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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Ms. Smith as being comparable to a hypothetical case in which, if the Knights ran a daycare, they refused to accept the children of a lesbian couple.

Maybe this could be solved by just informing the lesbian couple that the children will be taught Judeo/Christian moral values. As for rental of the hall, they shouldn't lose but I bet they do. Part of the coalition to legalize gay marriage are people who see it as an opportunity to suppress religion and morality. Many liberals view religion as the greatest evil (people who otherwise believe there is no such thing as good and evil -- figure that one out).

17 posted on 02/02/2005 12:33:14 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real politcal victory, take your issue to court.)
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I think they knew exactly what they were doing. They wanted to make a big show and sue. They arent really stupid enough to not know what the Knights of Columbus was.


18 posted on 02/02/2005 12:34:23 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: little jeremiah; EdReform

Ping!


19 posted on 02/02/2005 12:34:37 PM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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The Knights, adhering to church teaching, which is against homosexual marriage, cancelled a rental contract that had been signed, returned the couple's deposit and paid for both the rental of a new hall and the reprinting of wedding invitations after Ms. Chymyshyn and Ms. Smith complained that invitations listing the hall's address for their reception had been mailed.

That was in September, 2003. In October, the couple complained to the Human Rights Tribunal, which heard the case last week. A decision is not expected for months.

The K of C went out of their way to help these 'womyn' out after they cancelled the contract and they run to the government?? They are just pushing their agenda on the K of C.

23 posted on 02/02/2005 12:37:12 PM PST by retrokitten
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"The B.C. Human Rights Tribunal has just finished hearing Ms. Chymyshyn and Ms. Smith's claim that the Knights, a Roman Catholic men's fraternal and philanthropic society, discriminated against the couple by refusing to rent the hall to them after learning it was for a same-sex wedding reception."

"Ms. Chymyshyn and Ms. Smith complained that invitations listing the hall's address for their reception had been mailed."

Question: How did this lesbian couple present themselves to the Knights when the first meeting occurred to rent the hall? Did they tell the Knight's that they were a lesbian couple? Or did they just say it was for a wedding reception and allowed the Knights' to assume it was for a heterosexual couple?


34 posted on 02/02/2005 12:51:34 PM PST by OpusatFR (All Your Executive, Legislative and Judicial Branches are belong to us.)
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Human Rights Tribunal

Is that a real Court in Canada, or one of these pseudo-Courts like you find in the Hague or in a back-room at the Kennedy Center?

35 posted on 02/02/2005 12:53:33 PM PST by theDentist (Jerry Springer: PBS for White Trash)
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Not to take away from the actual meat of the article but:
"Ms. findlay, who does not use capital letters in the spelling of her name..."

What is that about?

36 posted on 02/02/2005 12:54:28 PM PST by arizonarachel
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From barbara findlay's website:

Most recently, I have been honoured by being granted an Award of Merit by the new Sexual Diversity Studies Department at the University of Toronto, in recognition of my advocacy on behalf of queer communities in Canada.

Surprise, surprise ...

42 posted on 02/02/2005 1:06:52 PM PST by catpuppy
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funny how the rights of homos are becoming more important that the rights of straight people* it is like our rights are a lesser right*
i do not like using periods*


48 posted on 02/02/2005 1:16:04 PM PST by rawhide
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ATTENTION CANADIAN PROVINCES WITH SOME NOTION OF SANITY:

ABANDON CANADA TO ITS SELF IMPOSED DOOM AND JOIN THE USA AS A STATE:

http://www.unitednorthamerica.org

END YOUR CANAIDAN HUMILIATION!


54 posted on 02/02/2005 1:54:38 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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