New S&W 460VXR Magnum

Smith & Wesson Website ^ | 1/1/2005 | Smith & Wesson

[Servant of the 9]

    
460XVR
8 3/8" Revolver

$1,253.00*
*Suggested Retail, Dealer Sets Actual Pricing.

Other Features

    * Removable, Interchangeable Compensator

Other Features

    * 2330 FPS/200 Grain! The Highest Velocity Revolver in the World
    * 2400 ft/lbs! The Most Powerful .45 Caliber Revolver in the World
    * If You Zero its Sights at 200 Yards, You Will Bag Your Buck with a Center Hold. 0-250 Yards with No Hold Over! Just Center It and Fire. The 460XVR will Do The Rest
    * Gain Twist Rifled Barrel for Superb Accuracy
    * Lighter Loads That The 460 Will Also Fire Include .45 Colt and .454 Casull
    * Incredibly Low Perceived Recoil For All Loads

[Servant of the 9]

Winchester has a Platinum Tip slug @ 1900. Looks like a rifle bullet. It carries Energy way out, much better than the usual shotgun slug.
Use in a rifled barrel.

Just what I don't want.
No pointed saboted slugs.
I have rifles for that.

What I want from a shotgun slug is a flat .72 cal nose and enough weight to break a big hole through anything it hits, like the Remington Buckhammer

So9

[Vinnie]

Too bad they aren't for smooth bores also.

[budwiesest]

The biggest handgun I ever fired was a 44 mag (don't know the load) and was amazed that, at about 40 yards, the dirt was flying before the barrel jumped up to block the view.

This gun shoots flat out to 250 yards which seems incredible. Couple of questions: how might the 'bang' compare to a 44 mag.(since many have probably fired this gun) and should firmness of grip be substantially increased? The specs seem to indicate that you'll have alot to deal with, just wondering how it might compare to the 44. Thanks

[Who is John Galt?]

What I want from a shotgun slug is a flat .72 cal nose and enough weight to break a big hole through anything it hits...

Actually, what you might want is the right load for the job at hand. That might include (under certain, perhaps unlikely, circumstances ;>) a flechette load, or something even more unusual...

;>)

[Servant of the 9]

Too bad they aren't for smooth bores also.

The Buckhammer is for smoothbores.
It's Sabot Rounds that are for rifled barrels only.

So9

[Servant of the 9]

What I want from a shotgun slug is a flat .72 cal nose and enough weight to break a big hole through anything it hits...

Actually, what you might want is the right load for the job at hand. That might include (under certain, perhaps unlikely, circumstances ;>) a flechette load, or something even more unusual...

I keep flechettes in the house gun. I have ever since we had a spree of home invasion roberies in Houston by men in raid jackets and body armor pretending to be cops.

If I am gonna hunt big game with a shotgun, I want a slug designed to make maximum hole. If the range is too long for them, I'll use a rifle.

SO9

[Servant of the 9]

how might the 'bang' compare to a 44 mag.(since many have probably fired this gun) and should firmness of grip be substantially increased?

The really big bores, like this one, the .475 Linebaugh and the vcarious .500s are much worse than a .44 mag.
Experienced shooters and gunwriters who are used to shooting hundreds of rounds of .44 mag in a session have been known to go home and lay down in a dark quiet room to feel better after 20 or 30 rounds from a maximum caliber pistol. You can literally become concussed from the muxxle blast.

So9

[Who is John Galt?]

Common sense (where legally allowed ;>) is always worthy of commendation!

(Although I am seriously considering replacing my 12 gauge pump with an AK pistol, for 'home defense' purposes. Obviously, YMMV... ;>)

[F105-D ThunderChief]

A lady at my pistol/rifle range has a Ruger .454 Casull, and it has some kick! I'll stick with my Redhawk, that's enough "mule" for me!

[F105-D ThunderChief]

Wasn't it Winchester that had the lever-action .45-70 rifle?

[Vinnie]

...no other lead slug offers a more lethal combination than the Remington BuckHammer. Specifically designed for rifled barrels and rifled choke tubes,...

According to their lit. they need rifling. It seems to me that their design would make them fly biggie end forward .
Do you use them in a smooth bore?

[Servant of the 9]

Wasn't it Winchester that had the lever-action .45-70 rifle?

Winchester still does, the 1886 and Marlin makes a 45/70 rifle the 1895.

So9

[Servant of the 9]

According to their lit. they need rifling.

I see that. They didn't last year.

It seems to me that their design would make them fly biggie end forward.

The plastic wad stays attached, or used to and makes them fly nose foreward like a shuttlecock, or the good old Brenneke rifled slugs.

Do you use them in a smooth bore?

I have, but I don't know if they have changed the design or just the literature. They may have skirt attachment problems or something.
I am gonna have to check this out before using them again.

So9

[Vinnie]

If you get some info on them , let me know please. PM me if you want.

[budwiesest]

Thanks for the reply. Sounds like one could double the trouble and just about get the 'feel' for one of these guns.

after 20 or 30 rounds from a maximum caliber pistol.

That was another thought I'd had. "What might a few quick shots feel like?" You answered that.

On the day we went to shoot a friend's 44 mag, I was so impressed at the speed of the round that I walked to the berm and dug the remnants of the bullet from the sandy dirt. It was like a string of spilled solder about 8 inches long. Made me wonder just how hot a bullet might get traveling through the air at that speed and whether this might affect the penetration dynamics, not to mention what would happen if it hit something solid like bone. (splinter off in a hundered directions, etc.)

So, I picked it up and carried it back, only to get to within about five feet from my younger brother who fired a shot before I could get behind the muzzle. I could barely hear out of my left ear for a week or so. And, I've had ringing in my ears ever since (about 35 yrs.) and as a musician, it really sucks.

[rmh47]

Anybody know what a "gain twist rifled barrel" is?

[Servant of the 9]

Anybody know what a "gain twist rifled barrel" is?

The rifling starts out going almost straight (1 turn in 200 inches) down the barrel. As it goes down te length of the barrel it turns faster and faster until it is 1 turn in 20 inches when 2/3 of the way through the barrel.

This lets the bullet take the shock of the jump from cylinder to barrel and swaging into the lands and groves seperately from the shock of accelerating to a high speed spin.

So9

[Graycliff]

Another fan of Buffalo Bore.
Great ammo, have used it many times, Corbon also makes some great heavy loads for the 45LC. Great to see other fans of the 45LC. I recently bought a 7 1/2 Stainless Black Hawk, sent it back to Ruger and had them make a 45 ACP cylinder for it, as far as i know nobody has another one like it. That particular model was never offered with the 45 ACP option, many others were but not that one.

5 1/2 inch stainless Vaquero rides in my truck daily.
Have you seen the new Beretta Stampeds?

[OKSooner]

I don't think he's kidding.

[Servant of the 9]

Have you seen the new Beretta Stampeds?

No, but I'm considering one of the Doug Turnbull finished US Firearms single actions.

So9