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To: Chemist_Geek; fastattacksailor; broadsword; Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado; ariamne; ...

**In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Coulter Wars Continued: A Muslim-Christian Dialogue, Chemist_Geek wrote:

"What's the matter, can't handle the truth?
Although, I admit, it's Deuteronomy 13:6-10, not Leviticus.

"If thy brother the son of thy mother, or thy son, or daughter, or thy wife that is in thy bosom, or thy friend, whom thou lovest as thy own soul, would persuade thee secretly, saying: Let us go, and serve strange gods, which thou knowest not, nor thy fathers,

"Of all the nations round about, that are near or afar off, from one end of the earth to the other,

"Consent not to him, hear him not, neither let thy eye spare him to pity and conceal him,

"But thou shalt presently put him to death. Let thy hand be first upon him, and afterwards the hands of all the people.

"With stones shall he be stoned to death: because he would have withdrawn thee from the Lord thy God, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage:"




Once again you bring out the Ancient Texts with rules and laws that no Christian or Jew has adhered to in thousands of years.

And you do it strictly to give credence and moral equivalency to the Islamic laws that are still being enforced TODAY, right HERE in the good old 21st Century!

IT DOES NOT WORK.

Yes, it's in the Bible, YES it was once done, BUT NO, it is NOT DONE TODAY, except in Islamist nations governed by Sharia Law.

Why do you insist on making these ridiculous comparisons? You have been taken to task for it MANY time before, and yet you continue, all it does is enrage because of its disingenuous nature.

Extremely troll-like behavior.


70 posted on 02/02/2005 11:00:48 AM PST by Former Dodger (I thought ABORTION was murder and FUR was a Woman's right to choose.)
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To: Former Dodger
Extremely troll-like behavior.

You better be careful FD, he might hunt you down like a chicken and...

Well, you know what they do when they declare you "halal."

72 posted on 02/02/2005 11:10:31 AM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Former Dodger

He states it because if one cared to misrepresent Christianity or Judaism with long ignored texts like some do Islam one could have similar results.

And dont forget that does not change the moral quality of the persons who did do those things way back then.

If Samuel were alive today would he still slaughter Agag and the royal family, including women and children, of the Amalekites or not?

Does that make Samuel evil?

Gods truth does not change and to attack someone for what the prophets themselves did is to set oneself against God, no?


73 posted on 02/02/2005 11:12:38 AM PST by JFK_Lib
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To: Former Dodger; Chemist_Geek

Excellent attempt, FD. I said essentially the same thing in post # 53 to CG. He did not deign to respond.

I suspect an attempt to draw us out into a flame war. Let's not fall into a baited trap.


76 posted on 02/02/2005 11:16:03 AM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal-Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: Former Dodger; TexasCowboy; Chemist_Geek; mrsmith
Hi FD,
Thanks for the ping. Folks like Chemist_Geek and mrsmith are a complete waste of time. They see the truth but won't acknowledge it or accept it.

When confronted with FACTS, they scream bigotry and run away. They are a waste of time and bandwidth.
77 posted on 02/02/2005 11:21:13 AM PST by appalachian_dweller (I have no use for people who won't accept FACTS.)
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To: Former Dodger
**In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Coulter Wars Continued: A Muslim-Christian Dialogue, Chemist_Geek wrote:

"What's the matter, can't handle the truth? Although, I admit, it's Deuteronomy 13:6-10, not Leviticus.

"If thy brother the son of thy mother, or thy son, or daughter, or thy wife that is in thy bosom, or thy friend, whom thou lovest as thy own soul, would persuade thee secretly, saying: Let us go, and serve strange gods, which thou knowest not, nor thy fathers,

"Of all the nations round about, that are near or afar off, from one end of the earth to the other,

"Consent not to him, hear him not, neither let thy eye spare him to pity and conceal him,

"But thou shalt presently put him to death. Let thy hand be first upon him, and afterwards the hands of all the people.

"With stones shall he be stoned to death: because he would have withdrawn thee from the Lord thy God, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage:"

Once again you bring out the Ancient Texts with rules and laws that no Christian or Jew has adhered to in thousands of years.

And you do it strictly to give credence and moral equivalency to the Islamic laws that are still being enforced TODAY, right HERE in the good old 21st Century!

IT DOES NOT WORK.

Yes, it's in the Bible, YES it was once done, BUT NO, it is NOT DONE TODAY, except in Islamist nations governed by Sharia Law.

Why do you insist on making these ridiculous comparisons? You have been taken to task for it MANY time before, and yet you continue, all it does is enrage because of its disingenuous nature.

Extremely troll-like behavior.

I have one point to add. The laws of Deuteronomy (and Leviticus) were written as the laws of ancient Israel. Israel at the time was a Theocracy; ruled by God and God's law. The passage quoted refers to serving strange gods; gods of other nations. This would have been the equivalent of treason at the time, since it meant serving another nation as well. Note that we still have the death penalty for treason.

155 posted on 02/02/2005 8:05:06 PM PST by xjcsa (Everything matters if anything matters at all...)
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To: Former Dodger
Yes, it's in the Bible, YES it was once done, BUT NO, it is NOT DONE TODAY, except in Islamist nations governed by Sharia Law. Why do you insist on making these ridiculous comparisons?

The poster was trying to point out that our scriptures are not all full of sweetness, light, and fluffy kittens either. Condemning the Koran for its violent attitudes whilst ignoring the same in the Old Testament is rather hypocritical.

186 posted on 02/03/2005 9:59:23 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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