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The President's wisdom in not signing on to the World Court is reinforced in spades here. 

Actually, I think that it would be delightful for Secretary Rumsfeld to go to Germany and bait these idiots.  Let them try to arrest him and just see what would happen.  It would be great theater!

A greater concern, however, is the plight of our military service men and women under these laws.  I suppose that there will need to be some major international incident in order to get them repealed.

1 posted on 02/02/2005 12:02:13 AM PST by Stoat
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Have we moved our troops out of the EU-SSR yet??


2 posted on 02/02/2005 12:03:30 AM PST by GeronL (2-7-72 is my birthday, in lieu of gifts, just send me cash)
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I wish Rummy would go to Germany... and get arrested!

I'm dying for a re-match!


3 posted on 02/02/2005 12:03:39 AM PST by streetpreacher (There will be no Trolls in heaven.)
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Under Germany's Code of Crimes Against International Law, which was introduced in 2002, German courts have universal jurisdiction in war crimes and crimes against humanity.

This is like Michael Jackson giving himself universal worldwide jurisdiction in prosecuting child molestation cases.

4 posted on 02/02/2005 12:06:55 AM PST by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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Smart move, Germany.

Arrest the guy who's got hundreds of thousands of troops stationed in your country.


7 posted on 02/02/2005 12:10:13 AM PST by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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I guess this means that the Germans self-proclaimed experts on war crimes. How appropriate.


14 posted on 02/02/2005 12:18:32 AM PST by Begin (Mister, we could use a man like Ronald Reagan again.)
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Read carefully, its not the germans who have filed the complaint. CAIR? ACLU?

"Mr Rumsfeld was among 10 high-ranking US civilian and military officials named in a criminal complaint filed November 30 with a German federal prosecutor by a US legal rights group seeking an investigation into the Americans' role in the torture and abuse of detainees in Iraq."

18 posted on 02/02/2005 12:22:23 AM PST by dan_s
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I don't think these people are stupid enough to try it.

But...


21 posted on 02/02/2005 12:23:01 AM PST by DB (©)
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Germany? Are they still in business?


22 posted on 02/02/2005 12:24:29 AM PST by Stultis
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I say we send him, if the Germans want to start a row, we can send a carrier to their shores and tell him which they would rather keep, Rumsfeld, or Berlin.

The Eurowieners let Castro, Arafart and such scum swan about like movie stars and threaten Rummy? They have a lot of nerve.
32 posted on 02/02/2005 12:32:36 AM PST by Bon mots
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I would go ape-sh%t if that happened!
38 posted on 02/02/2005 12:42:44 AM PST by Pro-Bush (Can't afford Medical care? Thank an illegal alien.)
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But between the UN and EU crapweasel laws, I wonder if even in FRANCE would Rummy be 'safe' from the grubby mitts of the ICC wannabe prosecutors--extradition tricks from FR to Germany....


40 posted on 02/02/2005 12:51:55 AM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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Let them try to arrest him and just see what would happen. It would be great theater!

It would be grounds for war.
41 posted on 02/02/2005 12:53:49 AM PST by swilhelm73 (Appeasers believe that if you keep on throwing steaks to a tiger, the tiger will become a vegetarian)
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Concern that US leaders and military personnel risk prosecution in Germany for alleged war crimes

Oh - I think there's a fairly easy way to solve THAT problem.

Just march into the German embassies, and arrest a few of their diplomats. They wanna arrest high US government officials. I say - beat 'em to the punch!

Now - which embassy goes first? Mmmmm. Maybe Rumsfeld, himself, could be in on the arrest. I'd love to see that on the news - and you know it would be.

42 posted on 02/02/2005 12:58:28 AM PST by sevry
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Move our troops to Poland. Let Bush and Rumsfeld make frequent showy visits to our friends in Eaastern Europe. Send a succession of party hacks to Berlin as ambassador, and let them be the highest government officials ever to foul their feet on German soil for the rest of my lifetime.

-ccm

46 posted on 02/02/2005 1:26:32 AM PST by ccmay (Question Diversity)
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Of course nobody in Germany would arrest him in the moment. This is complete nonsense. He is absolutely safe, because he is bearing a diplomatic passport and the accusations are not suitable for an arrest. Apart from that, nobody in the German justice has the balls to play this game with Rummie.

The real dynamite in the World Court or in Germany's Code of Crimes Against International Law is the effect over longer terms. Since we do not know, if the future administrations in the US or elsewhere put enough pressure on nations like Germany not to prosecute "american war crimes", it could be possible that traveling through Europe will be a quite dangerous adventure for many american soldiers and politicians in the future. Imagine Hillary's (or any other democratic president) "Schadenfreude" if Rummie would be thrown into a sticky prison cell. There would be no help for him. Republicans have reasons to win the next elections.

BTW - Do you remember the case between Belgium and Ariel Sharon? Belgium was the first country that prosecuted crimes against humanity even if no one with Beligian nationality was involved in the crimes. In effect it was impossible for Sharon, who was in charge with the murder in Sabra und Shatila to visit Belgium between 2001 and 2003. In 2003 Belgium canged the law after being pressed by the US and Israel.


49 posted on 02/02/2005 1:59:41 AM PST by Atlantic Bridge (Difficile est satiram non scribere.)
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BS, pure and unadulterated
50 posted on 02/02/2005 2:19:19 AM PST by eclectic (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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International Kangaroo Court ping


51 posted on 02/02/2005 2:35:17 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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Close the bases. Close the bases. Close the bases.


52 posted on 02/02/2005 3:06:33 AM PST by samtheman
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Arrest Rummy...L.O.L.....Oh yeah!...just try it...for one thing they would have to get through his personnel security force...I thought the Germans were anti-violence.


53 posted on 02/02/2005 3:48:58 AM PST by Route101
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"It's not just a question of the secretary's travel. We have many thousands of US forces stationed there, some of which are named in this brief. So it's a big, big problem," he said.

It looks to me like Rummy is having a little fun using Germany's silliness against them. ;-) Rummy's visit to Germany is influenced by this "court" and so to may the presence of "many thousands of U.S. forces stationed there"?

54 posted on 02/02/2005 3:49:38 AM PST by Schnucki
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