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1 posted on 02/01/2005 11:28:59 AM PST by nyg4168
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To: nyg4168

Pull your kid out of public school.


2 posted on 02/01/2005 11:31:07 AM PST by MacDorcha
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To: nyg4168

I will say it again and again - this belongs in the home and not school!


3 posted on 02/01/2005 11:31:12 AM PST by Mfkmmof4
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To: nyg4168

No cause and effect. The kids got a year older, so more of them were active.


5 posted on 02/01/2005 11:35:15 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: little jeremiah

Ping


6 posted on 02/01/2005 11:36:24 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: nyg4168
Teach kids the birds and bees. Discourage them from having sex, but recognize that it happens. Encourage the use of condoms and birth control.

The number of teen having sex will fluctuate from year to year, but given the right tools and information they can at least greatly lessen the chance of picking up an STD or knocking/getting knocked up.

7 posted on 02/01/2005 11:37:16 AM PST by Zeroisanumber
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"The federal government is expected to spend about $130 million to fund programs advocating abstinence in 2005, despite a lack of evidence that they work, Pruitt said."

The Federal Government is wasting money? I'm shocked! </sarcasm


10 posted on 02/01/2005 11:38:36 AM PST by monday
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To: nyg4168

The program was a Bush idea. The Democrats in Texas couldn't back any program he had anything to do with so they told their kids he was wrong. "It is NOT a good thing to abstain". Naturally, all the little Dem kids followed their parents advice and went out and had sex.


11 posted on 02/01/2005 11:43:17 AM PST by OldYank1
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To: nyg4168

I'm sure. When faced with such a counter-intuitive study, the only conclusion is that the entrenched interests cooked the numbers and/or that the instructors charged with implementing the program didn't believe in it and did their own thing. Possible? Yes. Likely? Yes.


14 posted on 02/01/2005 11:50:12 AM PST by Antoninus (In hoc sign, vinces †)
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"Teen sex increased after abstinence program Texas study finds no impact on sexual behavior"

By our no-fault divorce laws, primary custody of children is given to the most adulterous parents. Propaganda from public schools and other organizations for children make heroes (and heroines) of those who promoted adultery in many subtle ways. While they're relatively young and healthy, promiscuous people are the first to be hired and promoted.

150 years after romanticism was established in the USA, motivations for such behavior are many.


17 posted on 02/01/2005 11:54:20 AM PST by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: nyg4168

Hmmm,
Some things (like basic biology) need to be taught in the schools.

Ethics and morality need to be taught by parents who have ethics and morals. They also need to understand all the factors that cause a child/teen to experiment with sex at an early age. And it ain't all about hormones either. If the child is lacking love, affection, kindness etc at home, they will find it somewhere.

And scaring them with disease, pregnancy or damnation doesn't work if they feel they have nothing left to lose or that what they have found with someone else is far better than anything you have offered.

Some people/parents, sometimes with good intentions, have such a bizarre view of sex they shouldn't be giving sex ed to a blow up doll, much less a child. It just does a whole lot more harm than good.


21 posted on 02/01/2005 12:07:09 PM PST by najida (Never explain--your friends do not need it and your enemies will not believe you anyway.)
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To: nyg4168
The study showed about 23 percent of ninth-grade girls, typically 13 to 14 years old, had sex before receiving abstinence education. After taking the course, 29 percent of the girls in the same group said they had had sex.

So it was a six percent increase? Maybe after the abstinence program, 6% more have admitted they had sex.

32 posted on 02/01/2005 12:21:16 PM PST by Ignatz ("Scribe of the Unwritten Law". ( Hey, someone's gotta NOT write this stuff down! ))
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To: nyg4168

Obviously, sex education in school teaches kids how to do it rather than discouraging them from it.

It would be better to let their parents scare the hell out of them, except that many parents are more promiscuous than teenagers.


33 posted on 02/01/2005 12:22:59 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: nyg4168
What to do?

Well when I went to school, sex education consisted of watching a few horrifying films on venereal disease. It scared the crap out of us. I doubt that would work today since it couldn't compete with a media that's completely infused with sex.

35 posted on 02/01/2005 12:25:11 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: nyg4168

If this is truly a study, where is the control group?


36 posted on 02/01/2005 12:25:36 PM PST by almcbean
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To: nyg4168
I think the conclusion reached is very, very reasonable and intelligent:
One program technique has been to try to bolster students’ self-esteem, based on the theory that self-confident teenagers would not have sex. Those programs, which sometimes do not even mention sex, have shown no effect, Pruitt said.

Other programs that focus on the social norms and expectations appear to be more successful, he said.

The problem, of course, is that psychobabble ("self-esteem") is no basis for making decisions. But public schools have trouble when they try to offer kids anything else because somebody, somewhere is sure to be offended.
39 posted on 02/01/2005 12:44:47 PM PST by madprof98
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To: nyg4168
The study showed about 23 percent of ninth-grade girls, typically 13 to 14 years old, had sex before receiving abstinence education. After taking the course, 29 percent of the girls in the same group said they had had sex.

Boys in the tenth grade, about 14 to 15 years old, showed a more marked increase, from 24 percent to 39 percent, after receiving abstinence education.

Wait a minute, am I missing something here? They are only discussing 23% of ninth-grade girls who were ALREADY sexually active. What about the other 77% who were not? What was the effect on them?

And perhaps the percentage might have gone up even more without the abstinence program. Maybe it would have gone up to 50%. Without a comparative study taken before the abstinence program was put in place, this study is meaningless.

45 posted on 02/01/2005 1:04:26 PM PST by Shethink13
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What to do?

It's not going to happen overnight, keep showing pictures of AIDS victims and the effects of herpes.
47 posted on 02/01/2005 2:08:35 PM PST by John Lenin
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