Liberal and Conservative as Defined by the Media

The American Enterprise ^ | March 2005 | Chris Weinkopf

[Destro]

PS: I am not calling any Ukrainian Conservative or Liberal - the diff between the two men was slight - the big diff was in what alliance they favored EU vs Russia. Pundits and think tanks then try and pigeon hole them for propaganda purposes as left and right.

[FreeKeys]

Bingo! I just basically want to be left alone. I'm all growed up I can tie my own shoes and know how to cross the street and everything.

LOL!

[FreeKeys]

think of it as a circle - extreme right and extreme left tend to converge as they go further out.

But I don't LIKE thinking of it as a circle; it's a TRAP. Again, the left-vs-right spectrum is mostly used to ask this question: "WHICH KIND OF DICTATORSHIP DO YOU TEND TO PREFER, AND WHICH KIND OF CONTROL FREAK WOULD YOU RATHER MAKE YOUR DECISIONS FOR YOU?"

DO check out why Valin responded that way at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1333435/posts?page=11#11 (above).

[jb6]

It helps that so many Sheeple want to be fooled. They've been taught from birth that the Soviets were evil (and in many instances they were), the problem now is seperating the Soviets from Russians, onto which it has all been laid. The "false" issue of humanitarianism is being used against Russia, which while far from perfect, is not bad. On the other hand, that same issue is ignored on China in exchange for cheaper plastic crap.

In other words, the sheeple want an arch enemy, it makes the world easy to understand: here stand the white guys and there the black (clothing): good vs evil. Makes the complicated and scary world much easier to deal with.

In exchange for this simplicity of view, they allow the elites to pull them around by the nose and get them worked up into 1984ism hours of hate. Who do we hate? Whom ever you tell us.

Note the decrease in importance of critical thinking, historical knowledge, geography, economics and social studies in what passes for our skuls. We need producers who know their jobs but don't think outside their brackets. Let the elites think for you on the high ground.

[jb6]

He supports free markets, NATO membership for Ukraine, and a closer relationship with the U.S.--staples of the American Right's agenda for Europe, and exactly the kinds of policies that drive the American and European Left crazy.

Is that why he's beating down the door for the EU, particularly France and Germany? Is that why his number one issue has been quiting Iraq ASAP? Is that why one of his top men is the head of the Socialist party while his PM is an oligarch worth $11 billion, whose husband is wanted by Interpol and who's closest allies are UNA-UNSO, the Ukrainian Nazi party that celebrated (look up their website, english version) America getting what it deserved on 911 and called for Ukrainian troops in Iraq to turn their bayonets on Americans?

Yup, between allies like this and China, we can just shoot our selves, it'll be quicker.

[Destro]

I said it once and I will say it again - this is neocon garbage.

[Oztrich Boy]

I'd love to see the definition of "conservative" and "liberal" more clearly defined

It's the role of liberals to make mistakes: it's the role of conservatives to keep mistakes from being corrected.

[Bill72]

"But does anyone have the story on why Soros wanted Yuschenko?"

Soros was actively promoting democracy in Eastern Europe during the 90's, he formed the Open Society Institute etc. I guess this is important for him because he lived under dictatorship and soviet occupation as a teen. So I guess it's pretty logical he would be supporting democratic reform in Ukraine too.