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Microsoft kicks off search effort (Microsoft throws down gauntlet to Google)
CNET ^ | 2/1/2005 | Stefanie Olsen

Posted on 02/01/2005 6:38:41 AM PST by KwasiOwusu

Microsoft on Monday replaced Yahoo's search technology with its own homespun software and will kick off a huge advertising campaign to supplant Google in consumers' hearts.

As expected, MSN, a unit of the software giant, has taken its Web search technology out of the laboratory, and placed it on MSN's newly redesigned home page in 25 countries. Two and a half years in the making, MSN Search will now be the focal point of the updated, lighter-weight site; and it is the subject of Microsoft's newest ad campaign, which includes television, print, Internet and outdoor promotions.

MSN Search Vice President Christopher Payne would not disclose ad spending, but he estimated that 90 percent of Americans, as well as U.K. and Japanese residents, will encounter the campaign. television ads, for example, will run during the Super Bowl, the Oscars and the Grammys. "Oh, you're going to notice it," he said.
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Google is still at the top of the heap, but its lead is shrinking. In December 2004, Google served about 34.7 percent of the market, down 0.3 percent from the previous period in 2003, according to ComScore Networks. During the same period, Yahoo jumped from serving 27 percent of the market to 31.9 percent. And MSN added a point to its position, going from 15.4 percent to 16.3 percent from December to December.

Key to MSN's strategy to win over the Web population is providing "answers" to queries, rather than millions of links, Payne said. While Yahoo, Ask Jeeves, Google and smaller sites like Answers.com have sought to fill in search requests with answers to questions on the weather, entertainment and package tracking, MSN believes it can do one better with its encyclopedia software Encarta.

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To: KwasiOwusu

Hey clown, read tonight's news. BuWahahahahahahhahah!

Google stock is up almost 10% tonight!!

No wonder Microsoft is so desperately stealing Google's formula.

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Reuters
Google Ads Send Profit Up, Shares Soar
Tuesday February 1, 8:07 pm ET
By Lisa Baertlein


SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Web search leader Google Inc. (NasdaqNM:GOOG - News) posted quarterly earnings on Tuesday that blew past expectations on strong Web search advertising, driving its share price up almost 10 percent to a record high.

The earnings were seven times higher than a year earlier on revenue that doubled to more than $1 billion.

"Our international businesses are essentially on fire," said Google Chief Executive Eric Schmidt, who added that Britain led growth, but that Ireland and Scandinavia were also big contributors.

Advertising revenues also expanded in the United States but they grew even faster offshore.

Google reported net income of $204.1 million, or 71 cents per share, in the fourth quarter, compared with $27.3 million, or 10 cents per share, a year earlier.

Revenue soared to $1.03 billion from $512.2 million, beating analysts' average estimate of $962.4 million, according to Reuters Estimates.

On average, analysts had forecast net income of 57 cents a share. Excluding items, such as stock-based compensation, analysts expected 77 cents per share versus the 88 cents delivered by Google on that basis."


181 posted on 02/01/2005 5:35:59 PM PST by HighWheeler ("There is nothing worse than self-deception where the deceiver is always with you." - Randi)
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To: KwasiOwusu
Sometimes I'm slow, but I'm fair.

I look at the My MSN page and realize that perhaps they haven't gotten around to changing the header. If you click on "search" on the top right you'll get to the new interface.

This is the direct link, and maybe every now and then I'll give it a hit, but I just don't care that much for MS, and it'll never be my home page, so solly.

182 posted on 02/01/2005 5:38:35 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. ©)
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To: KwasiOwusu

I got paid my Microsoft (about $45 total) to install software that asked me questions after I did searches on Yahoo or Google or anywhere.

It was for some reasearch into this effort. But all it did was ask if the search was a good one with "No", "Yes" and "Maybe" as answers.

Anyone else do this?


183 posted on 02/01/2005 5:41:24 PM PST by Fledermaus (I searched on E-bay but there are no sane Democrats left.)
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To: KwasiOwusu

And Kwasi, I hope you know what I mean.

184 posted on 02/01/2005 10:30:36 PM PST by kezekiel
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To: JerseyHighlander

Wasn't asking about uptime. I wanted to get Kwasi's comments on the fact that MS Search (both beta & live) are running on Linux.


185 posted on 02/02/2005 1:27:04 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate ((This space for let))
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To: KwasiOwusu

Hey Kwasi,

I really AM interested in an explanation for the fact that MS Search is running on linux - do you know the reason why??


186 posted on 02/02/2005 1:53:05 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Life is sexually transmitted.)
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To: KwasiOwusu
"you still have the mind of a retarded 5 year old."

Thanks for another wonderful contribution to civil discourse on this forum. It will make a good tagline.

187 posted on 02/02/2005 4:24:17 AM PST by HAL9000 ("You still have the mind of a retarded 5 year old." - KwasiOwusu)
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To: HighWheeler

Exactly my point... you don't need to hype a better search on the internet... if its publicly avaiable (even in beta) it draws traffic on its own. MS Search like AOL's search has is and always will be a joke. Every few years they announce "OUR NEW SEARCH ROCKS"... people try it out.. and then go right back to the better products they had already been using.

Kwasi's just ignorant of search technology and the internet in general. Having actually worked 1st hand in search companies, I've watched the trending and industry since 1994. MS Search is just another tired reverse engineer that won't meet the original....

I will admit Google's been resting on its laurels lately in terms of its basic search, (the death knell for every search before them).. but copying what they already have won't take them out... a better search with better relevancy that is light years ahead of them is what will take them out... and MS Search isn't it.


188 posted on 02/02/2005 6:20:47 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Smartaleck

No one has argued competition is bad... I have argued that when it comes to internet strategy and in particular search MS is basically a "me too" and always will be.


189 posted on 02/02/2005 6:22:03 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: JoJo Gunn
"Excuse me, sugah, but what difference does it make what search engine I use? "

Doesn't make any difference to me what you do with your pathetic life, Mr Pervert.

"It is painfully obvious to all but you that you're not able to back up anything you say"

LMAO!
Apart from being retarded, you appear to be blind too, since "it is painfully obvious" you can't even read. :)

"I get into my Hotmail account with Microsoft Virus Carrier - oops, I meant IE, but when I click on My MSN it's dead"

You don't say.
Hey,I warned ya.
You gotta stop telling all those porkies.
Daddy may keep your meds away from you again today.
And you know what that does to you.
190 posted on 02/02/2005 6:35:47 AM PST by KwasiOwusu
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To: streetpreacher
Looks like you got lots explaining to do now don't you?
Since you keep shilling for open the open source every single day.
191 posted on 02/02/2005 6:54:25 AM PST by KwasiOwusu
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To: streetpreacher
"You've just admitted that you're not interested in discussion but that you have a personal interest in seeing MSN's revenue increase and thus the reason for this thread with all of your "oohs" and "ahhs"."

# 1, In case you just came in from Pluto,I long ago declared that I am the proud owner of Microsoft stock, something that is still very legal in America.( Hanoi John Kerry lost, remember?)

And # 2, Microsoft, as well as Yahoo and Google are in the search business to make money.
That's what its all about.
If advertisers find out that their sponsored search links are not leading to any sales,of course they will pull their ads.
Its just common sense.

"but I know an infomercial when I see one and that is why you are not taken seriously here and why you look so ridiculous."

I refer you to my statement above.
Its you that is looking ridiculous.
BTW, why don't you attack all the unrelenting , daily barrage of open source "infomercial" that is being dumped on this broad everyday?

"That said, this thread is an unpaid advertisement at JimRob's expense, a violation of FR's rules and should be pulled. You want to advertise: First find a forum that allows for that and then PAY for it!"

I have but one answer to that piece of garbage from you:
RUBBISH!!
192 posted on 02/02/2005 7:07:50 AM PST by KwasiOwusu
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To: HighWheeler
Saw that already.
Netscape had similar results too.
The Internet bubble is nothing now.
It led to the stock market collapse in 1999 and 2000.
One thing history teaches us of course is, people never learn from history.
193 posted on 02/02/2005 7:11:19 AM PST by KwasiOwusu
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To: kezekiel
Yep.
That is you on your way to kissing Linus Torvalds's butt.
I am sure, he'll appreciate you getting all dressed up for him too. :)
194 posted on 02/02/2005 7:16:39 AM PST by KwasiOwusu
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To: HAL9000
"Thanks for another wonderful contribution to civil discourse on this forum. It will make a good tagline"

You are very welcome.
Hopefully you sent the same message to the guy who first hurled out abuse in the first place.
Oh, but I forget ,he is an open source fanatic too,just like you.
Your remarks on "civil discourse " are of course saved only for those who oppose your fellow open source travelers, right?
195 posted on 02/02/2005 7:20:43 AM PST by KwasiOwusu
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To: KwasiOwusu

Hello again.

Maybe you distrust my motives, but I am genuinely interested in your opinion / knowledge of why MS Search is using Linux. I would greatly appreciate a reply, as, you do seem to have a bit of knoweldge of what MS does & why.


196 posted on 02/02/2005 7:59:23 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate (Life is sexually transmitted.)
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To: KwasiOwusu; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson
"Hopefully you sent the same message to the guy who first hurled out abuse in the first place."

I have a good idea of who hurled out abuse in the first place. The civility in the tech forums was somewhat better until recently. The debates about the issues were spirited, but there were only occasional violations of the FR posting rules in these discussions.

Since then, the tech discussions have descended into gutter trash talk, daily personal attacks and repeated abuse of the forum.

As a volunteer for an organization that helps mentally retarded individuals, I find comments like "you still have the mind of a retarded 5 year old" (#158) highly offensive and inappropriate for this forum.

"Your remarks on "civil discourse " are of course saved only for those who oppose your fellow open source travelers, right?"

I urge everyone to quit posting personal attacks and get back to the issues - and start using the "Report Abuse" link when necessary.

197 posted on 02/02/2005 8:21:32 AM PST by HAL9000
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To: KwasiOwusu

And for the record, I'm not an open source fanatic. I advocate open, well-documented file formats - especially when taxpayer money is involved - and an appropriate mix of open source and proprietary technology for most computer users.


198 posted on 02/02/2005 8:24:35 AM PST by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000

I see no need to start abusing the "report abuse" button.

When Quasi and Bush2000 and the like rear their heads, take them to task yourself with logic and reasoning. Let them speak for themselves and build their own reputations.

Besides that, yanking their chains can be great fun. Nobody truly gets hurt, unless you're super sensitive.


199 posted on 02/02/2005 8:57:27 AM PST by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. ©)
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To: All
I am soooooo f$%@ing sick of every computer related thread at FR becoming a M$ Sucks/Apple Sucks/Linux Sucks flame war.

Why don't you jackasses grow up.

200 posted on 02/02/2005 9:02:33 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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