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TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO FEBRUARY DAILY THREAD 2005: TERRI IS OUR VALENTINE!
Free Republic and various sources | December 30, 2004, January 31, 2005 | Florida Voter

Posted on 01/31/2005 9:14:49 PM PST by TAdams8591

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To: TAdams8591

Kind of wondering if the law of slavery applies here. Does the husband own the victim here? What about implied consent? did she have a DNR signed that allows him to make this decision?


141 posted on 02/02/2005 8:21:22 AM PST by Walkingfeather (q)
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To: FL_engineer; cyn; FR_addict; windchime; Budge; Deo volente; nicmarlo; Ohioan from Florida; ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1333205/posts?page=138#138


142 posted on 02/02/2005 8:26:56 AM PST by pc93
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To: floriduh voter; Scoop 1; pc93; Ohioan from Florida; All

If you google all those words together you'll only get a result with the quote I posted previously from the WND article, I went through 2pages of results but if someone wants to go further by all means. Or try putting 'rule of law greer' in the search field. Maybe it's something he said in court but it isn't in print and that's why we can't locate it.

Small request, pray...I can't remember where I put the blank cards and I need to print a birthday card and get out to a dearly loved relative asap!
I'm like the little blue Dorie in Nemo, memory! Got to find those cards!


143 posted on 02/02/2005 8:32:00 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: Saundra Duffy; tutstar

I wish I had said that. Excellent letter,tutstar. I e-mailed the letter to everyone in my address book.


144 posted on 02/02/2005 8:32:52 AM PST by Chocolate Rose
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To: Chocolate Rose

Florida DOH Destroyed Records After Schiavo Doctor Cleared Of Wrongdoing
Following Investigation

http://www.theempirejournal.com/SCHIAVO_florida_DOH_destroyed_records_after.htm

Judge George Greer Making Mockery Of Florida Judicial System

http://www.theempirejournal.com/judge_greer_fraud_in_the_court.htm

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1333205/posts?page=1#1

PLEASE DEMAND A GRAND JURY INVESTIGATION IN THE SCHIAVO CASE!!!!!!!

ALSO A REAL KEY, NEW TALKING POINT: Terri was NEVER represented by counsel while
others decided to starve her to death. That's against Florida and U.S. law. Even
criminals on death row are entitled to legal counsel. BILL TO THE FLOOR TO
PROTECT TERRI AND FUTURE TERRI's. A NEW Bill 692 please!

"If the courts continue to rule that the governor and the legislative branch
have no input, then perhaps Bush should take Terri Schiavo into protective
custody under Florida Statute 415.1051."

(2) EMERGENCY PROTECTIVE SERVICES INTERVENTION.--If the department has
reasonable cause to believe that a vulnerable adult is suffering from abuse or
neglect that presents a risk of death or serious physical injury to the
vulnerable adult and that the vulnerable adult lacks the capacity to consent to
emergency protective services, the department may take action under this
subsection. If the vulnerable adult has the capacity to consent and refuses
consent to emergency protective services, emergency protective services may not
be provided.

No need to read Jeb's staff the section, but certainly, we can give them the
415.1051 and say it is in re: Emergency Protective Services Intervention.

A Governor has duties and powers. We must firmly but diplomatically ask Jeb Bush
to use them!

http://flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&U
RL=Ch0415/SEC1051.HTM&Title=-%3E2004-%3ECh0415-%3ESection%201051#0415.1051

Florida Attorney General's Charlie Crist, AG Citizen’s Services & Office
1-850-414-3990 / 850-414-3300

Bernie McCabe, State Attorney Pinellas and Pasco Counties
727-464-6221
bmccabe@co.pinellas.fl.us

Advocacy Center for Persons with Disabilities 800-342-0823
850-488-9071
info@advocacycenter.org

Pinellas County GOP 727-539-6009

Gov. Jeb Bush 850-488-4441
jeb.bush@myflorida.com, fl_governor@myflorida.com,
jeb@jeb.org, jeb@myflorida.com

State of Florida Office of Civil Rights 954-712-4601

Senator Mel Martinez
Washington: Phone: 202-224-3041

Congressman Jim Davis
Washington: Phone: (202) 225-3376
FAX: (202) 225-565
DISTRICT: Phone: (813) 354-9217
Florida Toll Free: 1 (888) 266-0205
Fax: (813) 354-9514

Satellite Office: (727) 867-5301
FAX: (727) 867-5302

Florida Senate 800-342-1827
http://www.flsenate.gov/Legislators/index.cfm?Mode=Member%20Pages&Submenu=1&Tab=legislators

Senate President Tom Lee: 1-800-560-4403

Daniel Webster
Capitol Office: Phone: (850) 487-5047
District Office: (407) 656-0066

The Florida Senate-2004-2006 Senators

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aronberg.dave.web@flsenate.gov, atwater.jeff.web@flsenate.gov,
baker.carey.web@flsenate.gov, bennett.mike.web@flsenate.gov,
bullard.larcenia.web@flsenate.gov, campbell.walter.web@flsenate.gov,
carlton.lisa.web@flsenate.gov, clary.charlie.web@flsenate.gov,
constantine.lee.web@flsenate.gov, crist.victor.web@flsenate.gov,
dawson.mandy.web@flsenate.gov, portilla.alex.web@flsenate.gov,
dockery.paula.web@flsenate.gov, fasano.mike.web@flsenate.gov,
garcia.rudy.web@flsenate.gov, geller.steven.web@flsenate.gov,
haridopolos.mike.web@flsenate.gov, hill.anthony.web@flsenate.gov,
jones.dennis.web@flsenate.gov, king.james.web@flsenate.gov,
klein.ron.web@flsenate.gov, lawson.alfred.web@flsenate.gov,
lee.tom.web@flsenate.gov, lynn.evelyn.web@flsenate.gov,
margolis.gwen.web@flsenate.gov, miller.lesley.web@flsenate.gov,
peaden.durell.web@flsenate.gov, posey.bill.web@flsenate.gov,
pruitt.ken.web@flsenate.gov, rich.nan.web.@flsenate.gov,
saunders.burt.web@flsenate.gov, sebesta.jim.web@flsenate.gov,
siplin.gary.web@flsenate.gov, smith.rod.web@flsenate.gov,
villalobos.alex.web@flsenate.gov, wilson.frederica.web@flsenate.gov,
daniel.webster.web@flsenate.gov

Florida House of Representatives 850-488-6026
http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/legislators.aspx

Speaker Allan Bense
Capitol Office: Phone: (850) 488-1450
District Office: Phone: (850) 914-6300
speaker@myfloridahouse.gov

Frank Peterman
Capitol Office: Phone: (850) 488-0925
District Office: Phone: (727) 552-1370

Florida Department of Law Enforcement 850-410-7000

Florida Agency for Persons with Disabilities 850-488-4257

Federal Bureau of Investigation
202-324-3000
tampa@fbi.gov, jacksonville@fbi.gov

U.S. Department of Justice
AskDOJ@usdoj.gov
202-514-2000 Main Switchboard
202-353-1555 Office of US AG

U.S. DOJ Disability Civil Rights
Section Chief John L Wodatch
Phone: (202) 307-2227
Fax:(202) 307-1198
John.L.Wodatch@usdoj.gov

Section Deputy Chief Renee M Wohlenhaus
Phone: (202) 307-0663
Renee.Wohlenhaus@usdoj.gov

Philip Breen
Special Legal Counsel
U.S. Department of Justice
Phone: (202) 616-7526
Fax:(202) 307-1198
Philip.L.Breen@usdoj.gov

Liz Savage
U.S. Department of Justice
Phone:(202) 514-7173
Fax:(202) 514-0293
E-mail: liz.savage@usdoj.gov

PLEASE TAKE TIME TO MAKE SOME CALLS ON BEHALF OF TERRI!!!! THE CALL YOU MAKE MAY
BE THE ONE THAT SAVES HER LIFE!!!!


145 posted on 02/02/2005 8:34:01 AM PST by pc93
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To: pc93
So, they better not keeping bouncing callers by saying it's a state matter, it's a federal matter. TERRI'S LIFE CRISIS IS OF STATE AND NATIONAL CONCERN. Americans pay taxes and I don't want my property taxes to pay judges' salaries WHO ARE BREAKING OUR LAWS and I don't want STATE MEDICAID FUNDS murdering disabled people!

Tom Lee's office needs to stop being jittery about getting a bill to the floor and JUST DO IT. SENATE PRESIDENT TOM LEE'S TOLL FREE NUMBER: 1-800-560-4403

Juan, if you get back with Tom Lee's office, please advise them that Supreme Court Justice Rehnquist's daughter was the inspector general of HHS at least once while Terri was being starved to death. Her job was to protect TERRI. People called the HHS in D.C. Daughter doesn't investigate major case of health care fraud in Florida and dad rejects Terri's Law. JANET REHNQUIST, daughter of Chief Justice Wm Rehnquist. WHEN IS SOMEONE GOING TO PROTECT TERRI AND FUTURE TERRI'S? Do we have to expose every single person and start a boycott of the State of Fla before they listens to the people? The people are right in every sense, re: the law and the Judges are trying to kill an innocent woman.

The Fla House can IMPEACH JUDGES. Let's look into that angle as well.

146 posted on 02/02/2005 8:54:39 AM PST by floriduh voter (SEE TERRI ALERT & AWARE - VIDEOS AT www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Republic; Ohioan from Florida; russesjunjee; tutstar

My 146


147 posted on 02/02/2005 8:55:36 AM PST by floriduh voter (SEE TERRI ALERT & AWARE - VIDEOS AT www.terrisfight.org)
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To: floriduh voter
ORLANDO IS GETTING THE MOST VISITORS IN THE STATE. Pinellas County NEEDS VISITORS. Hearing Jack Harris on wfla radio 970 talking about "how can we get tourists to Tampa Bay"?

So, Pinellas County would take a big hit if it was boycotted imo. The airport in Pinellas recently lost it's major carrier, ATA.

Those beach towns may be hurting already. Timing is perfect if a boycott is required.

148 posted on 02/02/2005 8:58:39 AM PST by floriduh voter (SEE TERRI ALERT & AWARE - VIDEOS AT www.terrisfight.org)
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To: FR_addict

Strange. I would have thought the Supreme court decision would have returned the issue back to the state of FL.


149 posted on 02/02/2005 9:02:51 AM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: FR_addict; tutstar; windchime; Chocolate Rose; pc93; Ohioan from Florida; Republic; Scoop 1
Senate President Tom Lee's office is LYING if they are now saying this is a federal matter. Since when? THEY ARE TRYING TO GET RID OF CALLERS. WELL, I'LL HAVE TO CALL THEM AGAIN. If they are saying it is federal, we need to find out WHICH FEDERAL AGENCY HAS TERRI'S CASE AT THIS TIME? Same with U.S. Senator Martinez.

When the Supreme Court turned down Terri's Law, IT IS BACK TO THE STATE, TO JUDGE GREER, THE 2ND DCA AND THE FLA SUPREMES. They consistently rule in favor of MONSTER MICHAEL.

They are not likely to reverse course and by the way, there's a post here that THE FLORIDA HOUSE CAN IMPEACH JUDGES. We need to more research on that.

CAN YOU IMAGINE A U.S. SENATOR AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE FLORIDA SENATE are LYING TO CALLERS who are mostly republicans?

150 posted on 02/02/2005 9:03:34 AM PST by floriduh voter (SEE TERRI ALERT & AWARE - VIDEOS AT www.terrisfight.org)
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To: FR_addict
Tom Lee's staffer is getting tired but that doesn't mean SHE SHOULD START LYING. Her job is to take messages not TO MAKE STUFF UP. Does Senate President Lee think that callers are going to take their word for it when we all know it's not a Federal matter? Now if it's with the FBI, fine. Maybe you should call back and ask what Federal Dept. has Terri's investigation? Lee 1-800-560-4403.

It's working if they are getting frazzled. That's how the process works as you know, being polite, asking for a bill to the floor and if they come unglued, it' because of political pressure. If former Sen Pres Jim King is applying pressure to Tom Lee, that's wrong too. Jim King is a big hospice endorser. Everyone knows that.

151 posted on 02/02/2005 9:07:49 AM PST by floriduh voter (SEE TERRI ALERT & AWARE - VIDEOS AT www.terrisfight.org)
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To: FR_addict; Scoop 1; Ohioan from Florida; TOUGH STOUGH; pc93
Felos wrote in his book that he often hears voices in his head. He wrote in his book that God told him that he (Felos) is more powerful than he can imagine. Felos claims to be able to read people's minds (such as in the case of Estelle Browning). Attorney Christoper Ferrera (used to be one of the attorneys for Terri's parents) brought all this up about Felos in an excellent motion in October 2003. Judge Richard Lazzara threw the motion out saying it was all hearsay.

FEDERAL JUDGE LAZZARA could have ordered a mental evaluation of George Felos based upon his own words in his book. But he said it was hearsay... Even the federal judge in Tampa is in on the fix.

FR_ddict, if you have the gumption to do it, please call Tom Lee's office back and ask them exactly what Federal Agency has Terri's case? Are they finally investigation the corruption in the judicial system at the federal level? She's going to say you are yelling again but of course you aren't. This is part of her job which LYING IS NOT. US Senator Martinez' office also said this was a federal matter. WHAT IS GOING ON? These leaders have taken our phone calls and know that Terri's Law was SHOT DOWN BY THE U.S. SUPREMES.

152 posted on 02/02/2005 9:22:57 AM PST by floriduh voter (SEE TERRI ALERT & AWARE - VIDEOS AT www.terrisfight.org)
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To: floriduh voter; amdgmary

I called back and identified myself. It was suppose to be someone different. She said the other lady was taking a break (Dee, I think she said).

I repeated what I said before that I thought that the state should looking into repealing the starvation and dehydration law altogether and that this was a state issue.

But I would like to know if any federal agency was looking into Terri's case. She said she didn't know and to call my Congressman.

Just the run around.


153 posted on 02/02/2005 9:36:44 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: floriduh voter; All

I did the research long ago...

http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?Mode=Constitution&Submenu=3&Tab=statutes#A03S17

SECTION 17. Impeachment.--

(a) The governor, lieutenant governor, members of the cabinet, justices of the supreme court, judges of district courts of appeal, judges of circuit courts, and judges of county courts shall be liable to impeachment for misdemeanor in office. The house of representatives by two-thirds vote shall have the power to impeach an officer. The speaker of the house of representatives shall have power at any time to appoint a committee to investigate charges against any officer subject to impeachment.

(b) An officer impeached by the house of representatives shall be disqualified from performing any official duties until acquitted by the senate, and, unless impeached, the governor may by appointment fill the office until completion of the trial.

(c) All impeachments by the house of representatives shall be tried by the senate. The chief justice of the supreme court, or another justice designated by the chief justice, shall preside at the trial, except in a trial of the chief justice, in which case the governor shall preside. The senate shall determine the time for the trial of any impeachment and may sit for the trial whether the house of representatives be in session or not. The time fixed for trial shall not be more than six months after the impeachment. During an impeachment trial senators shall be upon their oath or affirmation. No officer shall be convicted without the concurrence of two-thirds of the members of the senate present. Judgment of conviction in cases of impeachment shall remove the offender from office and, in the discretion of the senate, may include disqualification to hold any office of honor, trust or profit. Conviction or acquittal shall not affect the civil or criminal responsibility of the officer.

History.--Am. S.J.R. 459, 1987; adopted 1988; Am. proposed by Constitution Revision Commission, Revision No. 13, 1998, filed with the Secretary of State May 5, 1998; adopted 1998.


http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?Mode=Constitution&Submenu=3&Tab=statutes#A03S17
1SECTION 18. Conflict of Interest.--A code of ethics for all state employees and nonjudicial officers prohibiting conflict between public duty and private interests shall be prescribed by law.
History.--Am. proposed by Constitution Revision Commission, Revision No. 13, 1998, filed with the Secretary of State May 5, 1998; adopted 1998.


154 posted on 02/02/2005 9:42:14 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: tutstar; russesjunjee; Scoop 1; All

154. The Florida House can impeach a judge for misdemeanors. I have a candidate for impeachment... George Greer, so called protector of wards.


155 posted on 02/02/2005 9:47:12 AM PST by floriduh voter (SEE TERRI ALERT & AWARE - VIDEOS AT www.terrisfight.org)
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To: tutstar

House Speaker Allan G. Bense
420 The Capitol
402 South Monroe Street
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1300

Dear House Speaker Bense:
I would appreciate your response to a serious matter. It has come to light that 6th Circuit Judge George W. Greer and Judge Douglas Baird did not legally qualify for the election as prescribed by Florida law. According to documents obtained by The Empire Journal neither judge filed their oath as prescribed by law.

The following information in italics is excerpted from http://theempirejournal.com/documents_of_schiavo_judges_give.htm

Greer was presumably elected in 1998 and sought reelection this year. Baird was elected to a six year term in 2000.
In addition to paying the requisite fees, judicial candidates must file a candidate’s oath, a loyalty oath, the completed form for the appointment of campaign treasurer and designation of campaign depository, and a financial disclosure statement.
Statutes also require that each judicial candidate, including an incumbent judge, file a statement within 10 days after filing the appointment of campaign treasurer and campaign depository, stating that he or she has read and understands the requirements of the Florida Code of Judicial Conduct. Neither Greer nor Baird has ever filed such a statement, according to the Office of General Counsel for the Department of State.
A review of the oaths signed by Greer in 1998 and 2004 as well as Baird in 2000 reveal that the documents are allegedly not in the proper form and were not filed within the requisite time period meaning that neither Greer nor Baird qualified for office. However, both have signed statements under penalty of perjury that they did qualify for office. (See http://www.theempirejournal.com/judges_in_schiavo_case_maynot_have_qualified_for_Office.htm )
Over the past several months, The Empire Journal has submitted several Freedom of Information Law requests for documents concerning the alleged qualification of Greer and Baird. However, the Department of State had not provided copies of the appointments of campaign treasurers.
D.H. Penton, assistant general counsel for Florida’s Department of State, has now produced Greer’s filing for 1998---which was filed Oct. 23, 1997, well outside the window period for qualifying. Greer’s 2004 appointment of campaign treasurer was filed on Jan. 8, 2004.
However, both of Greer’s filings are outside the window period for filing, lending further proof that he did not qualify for office and could not appear on the ballot.
Baird’s filing was not done until July 5, 2000, also well outside the qualifying period.
Even judges have to comply with the law.
The Empire Journal had asked the Office of General Counsel to take action against Greer and Baird based on the alleged improper documents and failure to qualify for election but in a response to the newspaper on Dec. 10, Penton said that “as to your questions regarding Judges Greer and Baird’s qualifications, the Department is unaware of any deficiencies in their filings” The attorney said that if the newspaper had “concerns about the judges, it would be to your advantage to consult an attorney for guidance on how to proceed”.

Judge Greer has violated FS 38.10 four times by not disqualifying himself from the Schiavo case when it was requested. The statute states whenever a party to any action or proceeding makes and files an affidavit stating fear that he or she will not receive a fair trial in the court where the suit is pending on account of the prejudice of the judge of that court against the applicant or in favor of the adverse party, the judge shall proceed no further, but another judge shall be designated in the manner prescribed by the laws of this state for the substitution of judges for the trial of causes in which the presiding judge is disqualified.

Confidence in the judicial system is quickly eroding in Florida as a result of the actions of Greer, Baird, and the Florida Supreme Court. The legislature’s function is to pass laws. The courts are to interpret the laws and judges are overstepping their boundaries. If the law to keep Terri Schiavo’s feeding tube intact is unconstitutional, then why isn’t the law that included a feeding tube in the “life-prolonging” procedures unconstitutional as well.

The courts are unchecked. As you can see in the above excerpt from The Empire Journal the attorney with the Dept of State who provided the requested documentation suggested getting an attorney to pursue the matter further. This is outrageous! The Dept of State can see in black and white that paperwork is not in order and will do nothing about it. This can’t be. The Judicial Qualifications Commission is akin to a fox guarding the henhouse and the public doesn’t have confidence in them to do anything about this situation.

The citizens of Florida are counting on you, the legislators, to do what must be done. I’m requesting that Judge Greer and Judge Baird be impeached without delay. Judge Greer didn’t legally qualify for office and should never have sat on the bench one minute. Greer has violated Florida Statutes by not removing himself from the Schiavo case when requested, has not required the guardian to abide by requirements in the statutes. Judge Baird stated publicly that Terri’s law was unconstitutional before hearing the case, his mind was made up already. Bias must not be allowed, neither can disregard for the requirements for the very important position of a judge. If the judges are not paying attention to the detail of their own filing requirements and expectations under the statutes how can they be expected to follow the more serious issues of law? I think we are at a crucial point in Florida as far as the judicial system is concerned. It is up to you to do something about it.

With respect,


156 posted on 02/02/2005 9:51:00 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: tutstar

Excellent Letter!


157 posted on 02/02/2005 10:01:08 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: AnimalLover; Republic; STARWISE; nutmeg; MeekOneGOP; NYer; nickcarraway; Salvation; Coleus; ...
Freeper referral Terri investigative reporting here:

http://theempirejournal.com/

We are fighting the system. What is the system? Try the ENTIRE STATE OF FLORIDA.

158 posted on 02/02/2005 10:01:26 AM PST by floriduh voter (SEE TERRI ALERT & AWARE - VIDEOS AT www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Wampus SC; Republic; russesjunjee; cyn; Pegita; Theodore R.; sport; Sun

PLEASE VISIT terrisfight.org. sign up to help at: fight4terri@aol.com and please email Governor Bush at: jeb.bush@myflorida.com.

I'm goin' on break, freeps. You're the greatest!

159 posted on 02/02/2005 10:10:07 AM PST by floriduh voter (SEE TERRI ALERT & AWARE - VIDEOS AT www.terrisfight.org)
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To: FR_addict; floriduh voter

Thanks to all who like the letter. We have to remind our gov't they are there for us, not themselves and their own agendas!!


I'm outta here for a while, my back is out!


160 posted on 02/02/2005 10:21:54 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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