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1 posted on 01/31/2005 7:21:28 PM PST by qam1
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What kind of dumb@$$ comes up with stuff like this? O_o


2 posted on 01/31/2005 7:24:21 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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Not the typical Xer Ping, Pinging it because this article does go into the generations and interestingly the Philippines also apparently have Baby Boomers, Xers & Ys (I guess there are aging anti-war hippies there too!)

Xer Ping

Ping list for the discussion of the politics and social (and sometimes nostalgic) aspects that directly effects Generation Reagan / Generation-X (Those born from 1965-1981) including all the spending previous generations (i.e. The Baby Boomers) are doing that Gen-X and Y will end up paying for.

Freep mail me to be added or dropped. See my home page for details and previous articles.

3 posted on 01/31/2005 7:27:06 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: qam1

Yet another Leftist attempt to rewrite history.


5 posted on 01/31/2005 7:33:19 PM PST by Malleus Dei ("Communists are just Democrats in a hurry.")
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"Next to Warsaw, Manila registered as the city most devastated by World War II."


Ummm...I think the residents of Hiroshima and Nagasaki might disagree with you a bit, there.


6 posted on 01/31/2005 7:34:22 PM PST by Harpo Speaks (Honk! Honk! Honk! Either it's foggy out, or make that a dozen hard boiled eggs.)
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You're welcome!


7 posted on 01/31/2005 7:34:31 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Got Gas?)
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Moral equivalence, blechh.


9 posted on 01/31/2005 7:37:35 PM PST by ikka
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Staggering in its ignorance.


10 posted on 01/31/2005 7:38:50 PM PST by F16Fighter
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Yeah, I'm sure the citizens of the Philipines were really pining to be left under the oh so pleasant rule of Imperial Japan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila_Massacre

The Manila Massacre, February 1945, refers to the atrocities conducted against Filipino civilians in Manila, Philippines by retreating Japanese troops during World War II. Various credible Western and Eastern sources (http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/battles.htm#Manila) agree that the death toll was at least 100,000 people.

The Manila Massacre is only one of many major war crimes committed by the Imperialist Japanese from the annexation of Manchuria in 1931 to the end of World War II in 1945. It was a major event in the Asian Holocaust, where over 15 million Chinese, Korean, Filipino, Indonesian, Burmese, Indochinese civilians, Pacific Islanders and Allied POW were killed.


Wiki link I know...

Where do these leftist pin heads come from?
11 posted on 01/31/2005 7:40:35 PM PST by swilhelm73 (Appeasers believe that if you keep on throwing steaks to a tiger, the tiger will become a vegetarian)
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Next to Warsaw, Manila registered as the city most devastated by World War II

The survivors from Nanking, Stalingrad, and Leningrad would like a word with the author. Wait there's the phone again.....yes, we have Korea on the line....and Ethiopians gassed by the Italians.....Singapore.....

This author is an idiot.

13 posted on 01/31/2005 7:43:04 PM PST by USNBandit (Florida military absentee voter number 537.)
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..Many Filipinos who suffered personal losses from Japanese atrocities during the 1945 Battle of Manila have long forgiven the Japanese for the anguish that they inflicted.

Oh, just like the Chinese in Shanghai? or the Okinawan's ? How about singapore? ALL were brutal atrocities, over 500,000 murderd at these sites alone.

NO, they have not forgiven or forgotten !

14 posted on 01/31/2005 7:44:28 PM PST by austinmark (If GOD Had Been A Liberal, We Wouldn't Have Had The Ten Commandments- We'd Have The Ten Suggestions.)
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Side note, See the other articles on the page,

* How the Philippines fails to sell itself abroad
* Dancing with disasters
* Bow in shame
* Why we have been marked out for elimination
* Men spawn more grievous spells of suffering

Geez, I thought our Newspapers were depressing


16 posted on 01/31/2005 7:47:51 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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I visited the Philippines in '76 and '77. The people loved Americans then because we drove out the evil Japanese. They all had family stories of Japanese atrocities like tossing babies into the air and bayoneting them. Even thirty years after the war, whenever Japanese tourists arrived in the Philippines, people turned away in disgust.

I visited the big American cemetery in Manila, and could not bear to go in, as American families were arriving to see their loved ones' graves, all crying at their loss right in the parking lot. I've never seen anything so sad.

If people in the Philippines no longer love us, it's because of leftist liars like this idiot writer.
17 posted on 01/31/2005 7:59:05 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Ping!


19 posted on 01/31/2005 8:00:23 PM PST by NRA2BFree (NO AMNESTY, NO UN, NO PC, NO BS, NO MSM, NO WHINY @SS LIBERAL BEDWETTERS, NO LIBERAL JUDGES! YEAH!)
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This guy, and the candidates he espouses, e.g. Raul Roco, are stealth Marxists.


20 posted on 01/31/2005 8:01:19 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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'it was obvious that shells raining around the area were US shells directed at the Japanese'

The King has no conscience.


22 posted on 01/31/2005 8:03:34 PM PST by xone
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THIS February will mark the 60th anniversary of the unwarranted death of over 100,000 civilians whose lives were sacrificed in the 1945 Battle of Manila.

THIS is what the Twentieth Century Atlas has about World War II casulaties in ALL of the Phillippines

# Philippines

* Military:
o Britannica: 27,000
o Eckhardt: 27,000
* Civilian:
o Britannica: 91,000
o Eckhardt: 91,000

Guess they all died in the retaking of Manila < /sarcasm>

23 posted on 01/31/2005 8:12:38 PM PST by Tribune7
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Many Filipinos want to rejoin the United States as the 51st State!! If "they" hate us, why would they want that?

http://philippinegovantigraft.homestead.com/Statehood.html
http://philippinegovantigraft.homestead.com/StatehoodA.html
http://philippinegovantigraft.homestead.com/StatehoodB.html
http://philippinegovantigraft.homestead.com/StatehoodC.html
http://www.gov.ph/forum/thread.asp?rootID=22004&catID=11&page=2


24 posted on 01/31/2005 8:18:13 PM PST by The Loan Arranger (The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.)
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"Babies were flung to the air and skewered by bayonets as they fell."

I remember my grandmother telling me that in WWl there was this story about the Huns. She was not German but she seemed to think that it was later accepted that this was war propoganda. Now whenever I read that about any army (no matter how obviously atrocious they were)I wonder if those particular stories are made up. ...

26 posted on 01/31/2005 8:26:24 PM PST by withteeth
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Tomoyuki Yamashita ordered the Imperial Navy troops and Imperial Marines in Manila to retreat and leave it an open city (He was running the defense of Luzon from an HQ out in the jungle). They disobeyed, and went on a rampage (not a novelty where the Japanese were concerned). Yamashita paid for that command breakdown with his life after his post-war trial in Manila, and established the legal principle that anti war yo yos tried to use to hang Calley on Westmoreland. Not ONE Filipino leader EVER accused MacArthur, or any US commander of causing, directly or indirectly, the deaths in Manila. Where do they find this bilge?
29 posted on 01/31/2005 9:06:54 PM PST by PzLdr
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Next to Warsaw, Manila registered as the city most devastated by World War II.

How is this measured? What about the Russian/Ukranian cities of Stalingrad, Leningrad, Rostov, and Kiev which were torched. I am sure I am missing many more.

Manila was savaged, but by the Japanese.

46 posted on 02/01/2005 7:34:10 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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