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Liberal and Conservative as Defined by the Media
The Amereican Enterprise ^ | March 2005 | Chris Weinkopf

Posted on 01/31/2005 3:31:18 PM PST by quidnunc

Everybody loves Viktor Yushchenko, and why not? The plucky populist stared down Ukraine's corrupt oligarchs to become his country's president, surviving an attack on his life in the process. Even members of the establishment media love him. You can tell because they call him what is, to them, the highest compliment in the English language — a liberal.

"Liberal Leader From Ukraine Was Poisoned," reads a page one, December headline in the New York Times. Most every major media outlet has described Yushchenko similarly.

But Yushchenko is no liberal in the modern American sense of the word. He supports free markets, NATO membership for Ukraine, and a closer relationship with the U.S. — staples of the American Right's agenda for Europe, and exactly the kinds of policies that drive the American and European Left crazy.

By extension, the media widely depicted the other Viktor Y — former Ukrainian Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych, a thug who ham-handedly tried to steal the election — as the "conservative" in the race. Never mind that Yanukovych is a former Communist Party member who ran on an explicitly anti-Western platform, advocating closer ties with the Kremlin. He disdains capitalism and free trade, and throughout the campaign accused Yushchenko of being a running-dog lackey of the Yankee imperialists.

If Yanukovych is conservative, then so is the Berkeley Sociology Department.

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(Excerpt) Read more at taemag.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Philosophy
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1 posted on 01/31/2005 3:31:21 PM PST by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc

I've said that many a time - the liberals distort the conservative tag when they talk about former communists as an attempt to pin associations with communist totalitarianism on the right instead of on the left where it properly belongs.


2 posted on 01/31/2005 3:39:03 PM PST by dirtboy (To make a pearl, you must first irritate an oyster)
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To: quidnunc

This is so true. I've also wondered why the Nazis and fascists of the 30s and 40s are considered right-wingers today. They would have considered themselves "progressive thinkers".


3 posted on 01/31/2005 3:40:58 PM PST by marsh_of_mists
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To: quidnunc
I consider myself a neo-liberal. Adam Smith was considered a liberal in his day. Liberal used to mean strengthening international trade and institutions, spreading democracy and freedom, and expanding human rights. JFK and Truman were considered liberals.

Now liberal means psychotic.
4 posted on 01/31/2005 3:41:10 PM PST by oldleft
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To: dirtboy

modern liberals have hijacked the "liberal" label to lend credibility to their movement. classic liberals are having conniptions at trying to find their place in a world gone mad with labeling.

American conservatives are the classic liberals of yesteryear.


5 posted on 01/31/2005 3:43:09 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: coconutt2000; marsh_of_mists; dirtboy; quidnunc

At least they've labelled themselves so that we can use it against them. The best I've ever seen was in Florida--Connie Mack v. Buddy MacKay for U.S. Senate. Mack's slogan?

"Hey Buddy--You're Liberal."


6 posted on 01/31/2005 3:46:03 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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To: quidnunc

What got me, sir, was during the collapse of the Soviet Union in August 1991--the Communist totalitarians who tried to oust Gorbachev were universally described by the news media as "right-wing," while Yeltsin and his supporters were described as "left-wing."

There are many who need to go back to school, to take Political Science 101, which describes the two wings.


7 posted on 01/31/2005 3:47:45 PM PST by franksolich (you're invited to be on the "Norway ping list")
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To: quidnunc
Viktor Yushchenko's wife is a former Reagan aide and former Bush aide, she's a card carrying republican straight out of the conservative think tank circles, right down to the chicago schooling for business.

Her politics supposedly mirror her husbands, if he was in the US, they'd be called right wingers.

The media has no clue and is just lazy, even alot of the DUmmies were upset seeing Viktor Yushchenko win.

8 posted on 01/31/2005 3:51:53 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: coconutt2000
modern liberals have hijacked the "liberal" label

Wrong. Foolish conservatives applied the liberal label to leftists as an insult back in the day (decades ago). Now we've lost one of the best words to describe our economic policy (especially how central liberty is to it).

Stupid American conservatives turned the word "liberal" into an insult meaning "libertine." It's our fault, not the leftists'.

9 posted on 01/31/2005 3:54:21 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: quidnunc

Excellent analysis. This article should be forwarded to every major news outlet out there. I think the reaction would be rather interesting.


10 posted on 01/31/2005 3:54:22 PM PST by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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To: quidnunc

They hit the nail right on with this one. Liberal=Good, Conservative=Bad. Of course, if Yuschenko proves himself to be a friend to the U.S., it's anyone's guess how long he'll merit the "Good Liberal" classification.


11 posted on 01/31/2005 3:58:41 PM PST by Tabi Katz
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To: marsh_of_mists

Here's a "right wing" European fascist -

“We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.” - Adolph Hitler, speech of May 1, 1927


12 posted on 01/31/2005 4:55:42 PM PST by sergeantdave (Smart growth is Marxist insects agitating for a collective hive.)
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To: xm177e2

Well, they seem to have accepted the label and they're running with it.


13 posted on 01/31/2005 5:15:36 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: coconutt2000
American conservatives are the classic liberals of yesteryear.

Not entirely. Some certainly are. But others are religious. The damnable thing about Revolution and 'enlightenment' is that it wishes to find the truth and purpose of life in man alone, in materialism or occultism even, but not in Catholicism, or broadly Judeo-Christianity. Yet this shaped western culture so that even on the depraved trailing edge, today, many assumptions are made from a floor created by Christendom. Our 'liberal' founders were some of them insane Protestant cultists. One of the Adams Presidents was almost an embarrassment, or is seen so today, for the vitriol of his writing. But that sectarian contempt was shared by many. Yet it was for the glimmer, still, of Christendom in this masonic and 'enlightened' experiment that the people were encouraged even by their leaders, in speech after speech, to preserve their Judeo-Christian faiths. It's the one thing that still holds it all together in the face of militant Revolution in the ACLU and other Communist organizations, in the face of 'new age' and masonic paganism and materialism, and just otherwise dispirited heathen and oriental bureacracy, which is always a blessing and curse, depending on how the bureacrats are managed. Not all conservatives are that sort of liberal. Many are traditionalists. Many of the principal voices are traditionalist Catholics, in fact, Latin Mass Catholics, like Bill Buckley, Paul Weyrich, Brent Bozell, and so on. I'd mention Pat Buchanan, but I find myself tending to disagree with him, now, on practically everything.

14 posted on 02/01/2005 10:25:48 AM PST by sevry
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To: marsh_of_mists

The Nazis are only considered 'right-wingers' by left-wingers. They conveniently forget that the term 'Nazi' actually stood for "the National Socialist Party"


15 posted on 02/01/2005 12:01:24 PM PST by infidel29 (America is GREAT because she is GOOD, the moment she ceases to be GOOD, she ceases to be GREAT- B.F.)
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To: quidnunc

bookmarked, unde bias.


16 posted on 02/01/2005 2:49:09 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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