THEY DID IT IN NEW JERSEY - WILL THEY DO IT ON FR?
Posted on 01/31/2005 10:01:36 AM PST by dennisw
An explosive New York Sun article reprinted at the Counterterrorism blog. As you can see, I was consulted on this story, and I will be posting more about it momentarily:
A radical Islamic Web site systematically tracks Christians on PalTalk.com, an Internet chat service on which a New Jersey man received a death threat two months before he and his family were murdered. The password protected Arabic Web site, at the address www.barsomyat.com, features pictures and information about Christians who have been particularly active in debating Muslims on PalTalk.One page from barsomyat.com features a group of photographs of a Syrian Christian, "Joseph," who now lives in Canada. Barsomyat.com's users have posted personal information about Joseph, including his brother's parole status, and make clear that they are actively trying to track down his current address.
Subscribers also post explicit warnings to Joseph. One comment states, "Know, oh Christian, that you are not far from us and you are under our watchful eyes!" Another user remarks, "Laugh, oh Chrisitan, and soon you will see a big hit."
Ahmed Paul, an Egyptian Christian and a theology student in America, said he believes Joseph was targeted because he frequently engaged in debates with Muslims on PalTalk. The Internet chat service attracts up to 3 million users a month, and subjects range from movies to music to religion to adult topics -- and some Arabic-speaking users of PalTalk have reported that contentious debates between Christians and Muslims are common in certain chat rooms.
Hossam Armanious, a Coptic Christian from Jersey City, N.J., who was found murdered earlier this month, frequently debated with Muslims on PalTalk. Two months before Armanious's murder, authorities said he received a death threat from a Muslim PalTalk user: "You'd better stop this bull ... or we are going to track you down like a chicken and kill you." On January 14, Armanious and his family -- including two daughters, ages 15 and 8 -- were found killed in their Jersey City home, bound and gagged with their throats slashed.
Authorities have not determined whehter Islamic extremists are to blame for the Armanious family's murder, nor is there any apparent link between the murder and barsomyat.com's tracking of Christians on PalTalk. However, many barsomyat.com users expressed jubilation at the deaths.
One user posted a photograph of Hossam Armanious and wrote, "This is a picture of the filthy dog, curser of Muhammad, and a photo of his filthy wife, curser of Muhammad. They got what they deserved for their actions in America."
In all, about 40 different discussion threads on barsomyat.com berate the Christians of PalTalk, and there are at least seven collections of photographs of PalTalk Christians. The barsomyat.com discussion threads seem to focus on Arabic-speaking Christians rather than those who speak English.
Barsomyat.com features not only photographs of the targeted Christians, but also attempts to track down their addresses. A post about a Christian man whose computer was apparently hacked to obtain his photograph includes the man's PalTalk name, his real name, and the city where he resides in Lebanon.
Another barsomyat.com entry outlines the relations (both blood and marital) between four Christians who are apparently PalTalk users, posts photographs of them, and then states, "We have postponed publishing this information because there is a lot more to be revealed when the time is right."
Even barsomyat.com's banner displays its hatred of Christians. The banner displays a crucifix crossed out by a violent red "X," and the main heading reads in Arabic, "Christians: Revealing the Truth Behind Our Belief."
Judging by the posts, almost all of barsomyat.com's users are Middle Eastern, and they are predominantly Egyptian. Mr. Paul said that's significant because the extremists on barsomyat.com live in societies where people simply do not challenge Islam and would never dream of insulting Prophet Muhammad.
Mr. Paul, who is an Islamic convert to Christianity, said when Islamic radicals from such societies participate in Internet debates with Christians who live in societies that promote free speech, they are often shocked by the Christians' arguments and view their debating opponents as blasphemers. And in the eyes of Islamic extremists, blasphemers are worhty of death.
Author Robert Spencer, who has been following the Armanious case for his Web site Jihad Watch, described barsomyat.com as "extremely important" after it was shown to him.
"I have never seen anything like this before," Mr. Spencer said. "It's chilling to see photographs of people who probably have no idea that they're on the Web site. Hamas's Web site would post self-congratulatory accounts of their attacks on civilians, but barsomyat.com's users are telegraphiing their intended victims in advance."
Mr. Spencer added that barsomyat.com is a "prime example" of how some Islamic extremists can utilize technology to attempt to bring Islamic religious law to the West.
"We saw in the Theo van Gogh murders that some Muslims will take these kinds of matters into their own hands," Mr. Spencer said. "The Internet makes it easier for them to do so by disseminating this kind of information. You could imagine 15 years ago how hard it would be for people to get this much information on people who they believe should be killed."
Barsomyat.com is registered to Viza-Web Inc., a Web hosting company based in Woodbury, Minn.
Locked and loaded, like we all are up here! NIKE H THANATOS!
Paul the apostle put his very accurate finger on it when he said in one of his letters (loosely quoted here) "those who make a great infisis on dress codes, proper things to eat and whom one associates, days, years,full moons and observance of holy days only succeed in gratifying their own flesh. In other words they are not spiritual at all. This applies to M's as well as C's & J's also.
Remember the hubbub when the Pro-Life people targeted abortionists? Where's the outcry over this?
Islam ... the "religion of love "
Just keep saying that over and over ...... and over
During the Cuban Missile Crisis I was in Catholic Grammar School. We had drills all the time and had to keep heavy sweaters in our desks to cover ourselves in the event of bombs (as if that would save us).
The nuns would tell us stories of how the Communist Russians hated Christians. They would tell us the Communists would ask you "do you love Jesus"? If you said "yes" they would cut your tongue out. I was always afraid.
The mohammedans(spit) scare me even more.
Hmmmmm... I've been around a while. I recently changed my screen name, not because I was banned or anything, but because I was becoming concerned about my security.
ping!
THEY DID IT IN NEW JERSEY - WILL THEY DO IT ON FR?
Thanks for the heads-up TC!
First off, when one of them tries to argue with you that "we are not all like that", ask them if they are prepared to turn in any that are. They'll still probably lie to you 1) because they lie so much they don't know what the truth is, and 2) their gutter cult teaches that it is acceptable to lie to infidels.
How about "puke be upon him"?
You got THAT right!
Registration Service Provided By: VIZAWEB INC
Contact: domains@vizaweb.com
Website: http://www.vizaweb.com
Abuse Desk Email Address: domains@vizaweb.com
Domain Name: BARSOMYAT.COM
Registrant:
VizaWeb Inc
Rick Mueller (domains@vizaweb.com)
6380 Tahoe Rd
Woodbury
MN,55125
US
Tel. +1.6512043910
Fax. +1.6512043914
Creation Date: 07-Nov-2004
Expiration Date: 07-Nov-2005
Domain servers in listed order:
unix2.vizaweb.com
unix1.vizaweb.com
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I'm not going to list the rest of the info - you can get it by going to any whois site.
Islam is satan worship in disguise.
Gitsum you ragheads.
Paltalk is stuipd!
Thanks for the ping jan. Recently, I responded Freepmail to someone who identified themselves as a muslim on FR. I wanted to engage him/her in a discussion based upon our mutual migrant experiences - our family were migrants to Oz - and hoped to learn, perhaps reveal, why and how assimilation was so difficult for muslim immigrants...hear it from the horse's mouth, so to speak.
The content of my letter was, I believe, considerate and civil. I wrote nothing against islam. He/she however damned militant islam outright in no uncertain terms and indicated taking part on islamic forums, arguing against fanatical islamists.
I was disappointed when He/she did not respond further...but after reading this thread, I think I am beginning to understand. Is that how 'muslim sleepers' may operate? Draw one into a discussion, wait until one takes the bait, says mohammad was a pig, and bingo, fatwa in action?
Was I too nice to bother writng back to? LOL!
The ba$tards are welcome anytime.
Hell, I'd even drive to meet 'em if they are hard up for transport.
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