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Christians on PalTalk Tracked by Radical Islamic Web Site (Armanious family)
jihadwatch ^ | January 31, 2005 | jihadwatch

Posted on 01/31/2005 10:01:36 AM PST by dennisw

January 31, 2005

Christians on PalTalk Chat Service Tracked by Radical Islamic Web Site

An explosive New York Sun article reprinted at the Counterterrorism blog. As you can see, I was consulted on this story, and I will be posting more about it momentarily:

A radical Islamic Web site systematically tracks Christians on PalTalk.com, an Internet chat service on which a New Jersey man received a death threat two months before he and his family were murdered. The password protected Arabic Web site, at the address www.barsomyat.com, features pictures and information about Christians who have been particularly active in debating Muslims on PalTalk.

One page from barsomyat.com features a group of photographs of a Syrian Christian, "Joseph," who now lives in Canada. Barsomyat.com's users have posted personal information about Joseph, including his brother's parole status, and make clear that they are actively trying to track down his current address.

Subscribers also post explicit warnings to Joseph. One comment states, "Know, oh Christian, that you are not far from us and you are under our watchful eyes!" Another user remarks, "Laugh, oh Chrisitan, and soon you will see a big hit."

Ahmed Paul, an Egyptian Christian and a theology student in America, said he believes Joseph was targeted because he frequently engaged in debates with Muslims on PalTalk. The Internet chat service attracts up to 3 million users a month, and subjects range from movies to music to religion to adult topics -- and some Arabic-speaking users of PalTalk have reported that contentious debates between Christians and Muslims are common in certain chat rooms.

Hossam Armanious, a Coptic Christian from Jersey City, N.J., who was found murdered earlier this month, frequently debated with Muslims on PalTalk. Two months before Armanious's murder, authorities said he received a death threat from a Muslim PalTalk user: "You'd better stop this bull ... or we are going to track you down like a chicken and kill you." On January 14, Armanious and his family -- including two daughters, ages 15 and 8 -- were found killed in their Jersey City home, bound and gagged with their throats slashed.

Authorities have not determined whehter Islamic extremists are to blame for the Armanious family's murder, nor is there any apparent link between the murder and barsomyat.com's tracking of Christians on PalTalk. However, many barsomyat.com users expressed jubilation at the deaths.

One user posted a photograph of Hossam Armanious and wrote, "This is a picture of the filthy dog, curser of Muhammad, and a photo of his filthy wife, curser of Muhammad. They got what they deserved for their actions in America."

In all, about 40 different discussion threads on barsomyat.com berate the Christians of PalTalk, and there are at least seven collections of photographs of PalTalk Christians. The barsomyat.com discussion threads seem to focus on Arabic-speaking Christians rather than those who speak English.

Barsomyat.com features not only photographs of the targeted Christians, but also attempts to track down their addresses. A post about a Christian man whose computer was apparently hacked to obtain his photograph includes the man's PalTalk name, his real name, and the city where he resides in Lebanon.

Another barsomyat.com entry outlines the relations (both blood and marital) between four Christians who are apparently PalTalk users, posts photographs of them, and then states, "We have postponed publishing this information because there is a lot more to be revealed when the time is right."

Even barsomyat.com's banner displays its hatred of Christians. The banner displays a crucifix crossed out by a violent red "X," and the main heading reads in Arabic, "Christians: Revealing the Truth Behind Our Belief."

Judging by the posts, almost all of barsomyat.com's users are Middle Eastern, and they are predominantly Egyptian. Mr. Paul said that's significant because the extremists on barsomyat.com live in societies where people simply do not challenge Islam and would never dream of insulting Prophet Muhammad.

Mr. Paul, who is an Islamic convert to Christianity, said when Islamic radicals from such societies participate in Internet debates with Christians who live in societies that promote free speech, they are often shocked by the Christians' arguments and view their debating opponents as blasphemers. And in the eyes of Islamic extremists, blasphemers are worhty of death.

Author Robert Spencer, who has been following the Armanious case for his Web site Jihad Watch, described barsomyat.com as "extremely important" after it was shown to him.

"I have never seen anything like this before," Mr. Spencer said. "It's chilling to see photographs of people who probably have no idea that they're on the Web site. Hamas's Web site would post self-congratulatory accounts of their attacks on civilians, but barsomyat.com's users are telegraphiing their intended victims in advance."

Mr. Spencer added that barsomyat.com is a "prime example" of how some Islamic extremists can utilize technology to attempt to bring Islamic religious law to the West.

"We saw in the Theo van Gogh murders that some Muslims will take these kinds of matters into their own hands," Mr. Spencer said. "The Internet makes it easier for them to do so by disseminating this kind of information. You could imagine 15 years ago how hard it would be for people to get this much information on people who they believe should be killed."

Barsomyat.com is registered to Viza-Web Inc., a Web hosting company based in Woodbury, Minn.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: armanious; copt; coptic; internet; islam; koranpersecution; murder; muslim; muslims; paltalk; religionofpieces; religionoghate; thenewnazis
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To: EdReform

You have mail


101 posted on 01/31/2005 2:53:15 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: antivenom
I creeped into one on the Radical Muslim rooms ...

AV, creeping is just not your style. It's more like, "Come on! Hit me with your best shot, because it'll be your last!"

ROFL

102 posted on 01/31/2005 2:55:00 PM PST by Eagle9
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To: dennisw; Bombardier

Amazing that the pigs take time off from their killing to become computer literate.


103 posted on 01/31/2005 3:01:39 PM PST by Tabi Katz
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To: ariamne

I say a double tap does well!


104 posted on 01/31/2005 3:10:29 PM PST by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

I have saved that link, it's very useful. Many people are not aware of the part that the 'sayings' of mohammad play in islam. There are I believe, some 62 volumes of hadith. Anyone who only reads the koran learns little. Another useful item is the biography of the 'prophet' THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD - link to pdf download on my Page.


105 posted on 01/31/2005 3:14:35 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: TexasCowboy

The private e-mail I received from the "proud Jewish Muslim" proves it.


Could you freep mail me w/some info? Thanks, BC


106 posted on 01/31/2005 3:15:59 PM PST by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Another useful item is the biography of the 'prophet' THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD - link to pdf download on my Page.


Your link put to good uses here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1247286/posts?page=28#28

Thanks! :o)

107 posted on 01/31/2005 3:21:29 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: Fiddlstix
Anything derogatory about the pig humper is good to go with me.

Take care,
BC
108 posted on 01/31/2005 3:27:48 PM PST by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Happy2BMe

"THEY DID IT IN NEW JERSEY - WILL THEY DO IT ON FR"

Don't put up personal info.


109 posted on 01/31/2005 3:28:37 PM PST by Smartaleck
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To: EdReform

Thank you for helping me to spread the word. This biography is particularly interesting as it was written so long ago, published in 1913, before Israel, before Oil, before everything the mohammadans now use as an excuse to do what they have always done. Steal and kill.


110 posted on 01/31/2005 3:29:17 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: Fred Nerks

You're welcome! I've also posted it on my Free Republic Profile page.


111 posted on 01/31/2005 3:32:22 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: ichabod1; TexasCowboy; broadsword
....I was becoming concerned about my security.

May I inquire why? I have been, and I always will be a rabid wolf when it comes to defending myself in any situation. Mo-humpers are the epitome of stupidity. They are terribly misled, and in the end, they will pay the ultimate price for being on the wrong side of the Lord. I will visit NY,NY late this month to visit a friend who use to work in the East tower. Luckily, she was at a sales meeting in Atlanta at the time of the attack. I will never forgive, nor forget the attack carried out against our great country. muslimes, they truly are a damned people. Piss on them all. -BC
112 posted on 01/31/2005 3:41:27 PM PST by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: FormerLib

I'm with you!!


113 posted on 01/31/2005 3:44:39 PM PST by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: ariamne

I agree totally, Ari...all we can do is watch each other's backs and try to weed out the TROLLS that would cause us harm....


114 posted on 01/31/2005 4:58:23 PM PST by Former Dodger (I thought ABORTION was murder and FUR was a Woman's right to choose.)
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To: Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado; USF; ariamne; Dark Skies; Former Dodger

A very valid point....the sleepers want others to go off and say something that could later cause problems.


I daresay that there are a lot of those sleepers here at FR....if you give them a logical, fact-filled discourse---they aren't interested.


115 posted on 01/31/2005 5:29:56 PM PST by fastattacksailor (Humiliate Islam: It's certainly asking for it!)
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To: dennisw; SJackson; yonif; Happy2BMe; Simcha7; American in Israel; spectacularbid2003; Binyamin; ...
'Bump!'





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116 posted on 01/31/2005 8:14:01 PM PST by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Salem

bttt


117 posted on 02/01/2005 2:08:25 AM PST by lainde
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New details on the New Jersey murders
118 posted on 02/01/2005 6:56:44 PM PST by Eagle9
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Feds eye Islamic Web site in Jersey City family slaying
119 posted on 02/02/2005 2:35:33 PM PST by Eagle9
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To: Eagle9
Related thread -- Terror Web Site Issues Death Threat
120 posted on 02/19/2005 10:30:22 PM PST by Eagle9
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