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Plastic Aircraft Model Kits are Going Away
StrategyPage ^ | 1/31/05

Posted on 01/31/2005 7:41:53 AM PST by pabianice

January 31, 2005: For over half a century, kits have been sold that enable military history buffs to assemble scale models of military ships, aircraft and vehicles. But that era is coming to an end, as the manufacturers of the original equipment, especially aircraft, are demanding high royalties (up to $40 per kit) from the kit makers. Since most of these kits sell in small quantities (10-20,000) and are priced at $15-30 (for plastic kits, wooden ones are about twice as much), tacking on the royalty just prices the kit out of the market. Popular land vehicles, which would sell a lot of kits, are missing as well. The new U.S. Army Stryker armored vehicles are not available because of royalty requirements. Even World War II aircraft kits are being hit with royalty demands.

This move grew out of the idea that corporations should maximize "intellectual property" income. Models of a companys products are considered the intellectual property of the owner of a vehicle design. In the past, the model kits were considered free advertising, and good public relations, by the defense firms. The kit manufacturers comprise a small industry, and the aircraft manufacturers will probably not even notice if they put many of the model vendors out of business.

Some model companies will survive by only selling models of older (like World War I), or otherwise "no royalty" items (Nazi German aircraft) and ships. But the aircraft were always the bulk of sales, and their loss will cripple many of the kit makers.


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To: grobdriver
> Will they be forced to pay a roylaty when they paint a P-51?

Oh, yes. P-51 was made by North American Aviation, which became Rockwell, which was bought by Boeing. Boeing is quite up front about wanting royalties.

I apollogize for the giant size of this, but it's relevant....
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status and that the prior licensee is identified by Licensee in the
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limited to, the providing of information, the preparation and making
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jurisdiction unless specifically requested in writing by Licensor.

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OR STATE TRADEMARK LAWS, FEDERAL COPYRIGHT LAWS, PATENT LAWS, OR ANY
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OBLIGATION, LIABILITY, RIGHT, CLAIM OR REMEDY IN TORT, WHETHER OR NOT
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ACTIVE, PASSIVE, OR IMPUTED), FAULT, STRICT LIABILITY OR PRODUCT
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LICENSEE UNDER THIS AGREEMENT, WHETHER OR NOT ARISING FROM THE
NEGLIGENCE OF LICENSOR (WHETHER ACTIVE, PASSIVE, OR IMPUTED), (B) ALL
RIGHTS, CLAIMS AND REMEDIES FOR ANY ACTUAL OR ALLEGED INFRINGEMENT OF
ANY THIRD-PARTY RIGHT ARISING FROM LICENSEE'S MANUFACTURE, SALE, USE,
OR DISTRIBUTION OF ARTICLES, AND (C) ALL RIGHTS, CLAIMS, AND REMEDIES
ARISING FROM ANY FAULT OR DEFECT IN ANY ARTICLE MADE IN ACCORDANCE
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OBLIGATION OR LIABILITY, WHETHER ARISING IN CONTRACT (INCLUDING,
WITHOUT LIMITATION, WARRANTY), TORT (INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION,
ACTIVE, PASSIVE OR IMPUTED NEGLIGENCE OR STRICT LIABILITY), OR
OTHERWISE, FOR LOSS OF USE, REVENUE OR PROFIT, OR FOR ANY OTHER
DIRECT, INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES WITH RESPECT TO ANY
LICENSED MARKS, OTHER INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY, OR ANY OTHER THING
PROVIDED TO LICENSEE UNDER THIS AGREEMENT.

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a. Obligation to Indemnify Licensor. Licensee will defend,
indemnify and hold harmless Licensor, its related companies, and the
directors, officers, employees and agents of Licensor and each
related company from and against all actions, causes of action,
liabilities, claims, suits, judgments, liens, awards, and damages, of
any kind or nature whatsoever, for economic loss, property damage,
personal injury or death (including, without limitation, claims
brought by employees of Licensee) and expenses, costs of litigation,
and reasonable attorney's fees related thereto, or incident to
establishing the right to indemnification, arising out of or in any
way related to Articles, whether or not arising out of the
negligence of Licensor, whether active, passive or imputed. To the
extent of this indemnity, Licensee expressly waives any employer
immunity or protection provided by the worker's compensation or
industrial insurance laws of any applicable state or jurisdiction.
Licensee's obligations under this section 14. will survive any
cancellation or termination of this Agreement. For purposes of this
Agreement a "related company" means any corporation or other business
entity in which Licensor owns or controls at least 50% of the voting
interest, as well as Licensor's parent company, The Boeing Company.

b. Insurance Requirements. Licensee will carry, and maintain
throughout the term of this Agreement, commercial general liability
insurance with available limits of not less than two million dollars
($2,000,000) per occurrence for economic loss, personal injury,
bodily injury, including death, and damage to property. Such
insurance will be in an occurrence form and with insurers acceptable
to Licensor and contain coverage for contractual liability
(including, without limitation, that specifically assumed under
subsection 14.a. herein), and products liability with available
limits of not less than two million dollars ($2,000,000) per
occurrence. Any policy which provides the insurance required under
this subsection 14.b. will: (i) be endorsed to name "Boeing
Management Company, its related companies, and their respective
directors, officers, agents, and employees" as additional insured
(hereinafter "Additional Insured") with respect to liability arising
out of the use or sale by Licensee of any Articles, or the use by
Licensee of any Licensed Marks, Other Intellectual Property, or other
thing delivered under this Agreement; (ii) be endorsed to be primary
to and noncontributory with any insurance maintained by, or on behalf
of, Boeing Management Company; (iii) provide a waiver of any rights
of subrogation against the Additional Insured; and (iv) contain a
severability of interest provision in favor of the Additional Insured.

c. Certificates of Insurance. Prior to any sale of Articles
under this Agreement, Licensee will provide for Licensor's review and
approval, certificates of insurance, referencing this Agreement,
reflecting full compliance with the requirements set forth in
subsections 14.a. and 14.b. above. A form of certificate, acceptable
to Licensor, is attached as Attachment F. During the term of the
Agreement, annual renewal certificates will be submitted to Licensor
before the expiration of the then-current policy ends. Subsequent to
cancellation or termination of the Agreement, Licensee will submit
annual renewal certificates for two (2) years thereafter (for
products and completed operations liability). The failure of
Licensor to demand compliance with this section 14 in any year will
not in any way relieve Licensee of its obligations hereunder nor
constitute a waiver by Licensor of these obligations. Such
certificates will provide for thirty (30) days advance written notice
to Licensor in the event of cancellation or material change adversely
affecting the interests of Licensor, its related companies, or the
directors, officers or employees of each.


15. RELATIONSHIP OF PARTIES.

Nothing in this Agreement will be construed to place the parties in
the relationship of partners, joint venturers, franchisor and
franchisee, or principal and agent; and Licensee will have no power
to obligate or bind Licensor in any manner whatsoever.

16. NOTICES.

All notices for which provision is made herein will, in the case of
Licensee, be addressed to and, in the case of Licensor, be addressed
to: Vice President, Contracts & Business Operations, Boeing Business
Services Company, PO Box 3707, Mail Code 14-84, Seattle, Washington
98124-2207 or to such other address as the addressee party may from
time to time designate by notice in writing to the other party. All
notices hereunder will be in writing and, if so addressed and sent by
registered mail, will be presumed to have been received on or before
the fifth day after the day upon which posted.

17. ASSIGNMENT.

This Agreement will benefit and be binding upon each of the parties
hereto and their respective successors and assigns; but Licensee
shall not voluntarily or by operation of law assign, sub-license,
transfer, encumber or otherwise dispose of all or any part of
Licensee's interest in this Agreement without Licensor's prior
written consent, to be granted or withheld in Licensor's absolute
discretion. Any attempted assignment, sub-license, transfer,
encumbrance or other disposal without such consent shall be void and
shall constitute a material default and breach of this Agreement. A
transfer within the meaning of this section 17 shall include any
merger or consolidation involving Licensee's company or its parent
(if any); any sale or transfer of all or substantially all of
Licensee's (or its parent's) assets; and any transfer of Licensee's
rights hereunder to a division, business segment or other entity of
Licensee. Licensor may assign this Agreement to any of its related
companies. This Agreement and the license hereby granted are
personal to Licensee for all purposes, and Licensee may not grant
sublicenses under this Agreement.

18. TAXES.

a. Licensee will reimburse Licensor (net of any additional taxes
thereon) the amount of any and all taxes (except United States income
taxes) and fees of whatever nature, including any withholds, together
with any costs, penalties, or interest thereon, paid or imposed upon
Licensor as a result of or in connection with the performance of this
Agreement.

b. If the Licensee is required by law to make any deduction or
withhold from any payment to Licensor hereunder, Licensee will pay
any additional amount required that will result after such deduction
or withhold in Licensor receiving the full amount of any payment
specified in this Agreement.


19. MISCELLANEOUS.

a. Nondisclosure of Provisions. Except as required by law,
Licensee will keep confidential and not disclose any provisions of
this Agreement except to those of its agents, contractors,
consultants and advisors (including legal counsel) whose assigned
duties reasonably require such disclosure, in which event Licensee
will first obtain written obligations of confidentiality and
nondisclosure from such persons.

b. Choice of Law and Jurisdiction. This Agreement will be
construed and performed in accordance with the laws of the State of
Washington, United States of America, except that the conflict of
laws provisions under Washington law will not be applied for the
purpose of making other law applicable. Licensee hereby submits to
the jurisdiction of the Washington state courts and the United States
District Court for the Western District of Washington with regard to
any and all claims and disputes related to this Agreement.

c. Compliance with Laws. Licensee shall be responsible for
complying with all laws, including but not limited to any statute,
rule, regulation, judgment, decree, order, or permit applicable to
its performance under this Agreement.

d. Export. Licensee will comply with all United States export
laws and regulations. If an export license is required by United
States law or regulation for export of any Article or Other
Intellectual Property, under this Agreement, and such Article or
Other Intellectual Property is to be exported by Licensee, then it is
Licensee's obligation to obtain such U.S. export license.

e. Entire Agreement. This Agreement constitutes the entire
understanding between the parties relating to the licensing or use of
trademarks owned by Licensor and/or to Other Intellectual Property
and supersedes and replaces any and all prior agreements relating
thereto. This Agreement will not be varied, amended, or supplemented
except by an instrument in writing executed by both parties.

f. No Waiver of Enforceability. No failure or delay by either
party hereto at any time to enforce any provision of this Agreement
or exercise any rights or remedies thereunder will be construed as a
waiver or relinquishment of any such provision, right, or remedy.

g. Equitable Relief. Licensee understands and agrees that
Licensor will suffer irreparable harm in the event that Licensee
fails to comply with any of its obligations pursuant to this
Agreement and that monetary damages in such event would be inadequate
to compensate Licensor. Consequently, if Licensee breaches this
Agreement, Licensor will be entitled, in addition to such monetary
relief as may be recoverable by law, to such temporary, preliminary
and/or permanent injunctive relief as may be necessary to restrain
any continuing or further breach by Licensee, without showing or
proving any actual damages sustained by Licensor.

h. Construction. The rules of construction to the effect that
ambiguities are to be resolved against the drafting party will not be
employed in the interpretation of this Agreement or of any amendments
or supplements hereto. The section headings are inserted for
convenience of reference only and are not intended to be a part of or
to affect the meaning or interpretation of any of the provisions of
this Agreement.

i. No Offer. This Agreement does not constitute an
offer by either party, and it will not be effective unless it has
been signed by both parties.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, this Agreement is executed in duplicate originals
by authorized representatives of the parties hereto.


BOEING BUSINESS SERVICES COMPANY
Acting on Behalf of Boeing Management Company


By: _____________________________ By:
______________________________

Title: ____________________________ Title:
_____________________________

Date: ____________________________ Date:
_____________________________


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ATTACHMENT C


Distribution Channels
Please check the appropriate distribution channel(s) below for
inclusion in the Agreement:

Unrestricted: all retailers and wholesalers.

Mass: mass market, meaning high volume stores featuring
discounted merchandise (including such retailers as Target, Kmart,
Toys R Us, and WalMart), and wholesalers which sell to such retailers.

Value-oriented: value-oriented department stores (including
such retailers as Sears, Mervyn's, and Montgomery Ward), and
wholesalers which sell to such retailers. Value-oriented specialty
stores (including such retailers as Kids R Us and Baby Superstores),
and wholesalers which sell to such retailers.
Mid-tier: mid-tier department stores, meaning intermediate
quality, fashion-oriented department stores (including such retailers
as JCPenney and Kohl's).

Upscale: Upscale retailers, meaning high quality, high
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wholesalers which sell to such retailers. Better specialty stores
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E-commerce: direct retail shopping involving the buying and
selling of goods and services on the internet, especially the world
wide web.
Other: Please indicate distribution restrictions or channels
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airports, hotel, gift shops, etc.):
______________________________________________________________.

No wholesalers: Check here for no wholesalers.


ATTACHMENT D

Royalty Report

Total Due

A. Sales to Licensor, any subsidiary of Licensor, and/or the
United States government


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Sale Net Sales Price



0

Sales of Articles on which a royalty was paid to Licensor by a
licensee prior to Licensee in the distribution chain

Name of Previous licensee: ____________________________


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Sale Net Sales Price



0

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Date of Sale Article /Licensed Mark Quantity Sold Country of
Sale Net Sales Price Total (column 3 times column 5) Royalty Due
(column 6 times 4%)






License Issuance Fee ($1000), if applicable


Promotional Fee ($2500), if applicable


Total


Check attached
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Confidentiality Agreement

This confidentiality agreement ("Agreement") is entered into between
("Contractor") and _
("Licensee") and will be effective as of the date
set forth below.

In connection with Licensee's provision to Contractor of certain
Other Intellectual Property, reference is made to License Agreement
_________________ dated as of _______ , 20___ between Boeing
Management Company ("Boeing"), a wholly-owned subsidiary of The
Boeing Company, and Licensee (the "License Agreement").

Capitalized terms used herein without definition will have the same
meaning as in the License Agreement.

Boeing has agreed to permit Licensee to make certain Other
Intellectual Property related to the manufacture of Articles
available to Contractor in connection with Licensee's contract with
Contractor (the "Contract") to assist Licensee in the manufacture of
Articles. In consideration of the Contract, and as a condition of
receiving Other Intellectual Property, Contractor agrees as follows:

For purposes of this Agreement:

"Other Intellectual Property" means any artwork, drawings, technical
information, know-how, and advice provided or otherwise made
available to Licensee in accordance with section 2 of the License
Agreement together with a nonexclusive license under any copyrights
and/or designs owned by Licensor therein.

"Proprietary Information" means any and all proprietary, confidential
and/or trade secret information owned by Boeing or a Third Party
which are contained, conveyed or embodied in Other Intellectual
Property.

"Third Party" means anyone other than Boeing, Licensee and Contractor.

2. Boeing has authorized Licensee to grant to Contractor, and
Licensee does hereby grant to Contractor, solely for the purpose of
assisting Licensee in the design, manufacture, sale and/or
distribution of Articles under the License Agreement, a worldwide,
non‑exclusive, personal and nontransferable license to use Other
Intellectual Property, owned by Boeing, in connection with
performance of the Contract or as may otherwise be authorized by
Boeing in writing. Contractor will keep confidential and protect
from disclosure to any person, entity or government agency, including
any person or entity affiliated with Contractor, all Other
Intellectual Property. Individual copies of all Other Intellectual
Property are provided to Contractor subject to copyrights therein,
and all such copyrights are retained by Boeing or, in some cases, by
Third Parties. Contractor is authorized to make copies of Other
Intellectual Property (except for Other Intellectual Property bearing
the copyright legend of a Third Party) provided, however, Contractor
preserves the restrictive legends and proprietary notices on all
copies. All copies of Other Intellectual Property will belong to
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3. Contractor specifically agrees not to use Other Intellectual
Property in connection with the manufacture or sale of any model or
product not authorized by the License Agreement. Unless otherwise
agreed with Boeing in writing, Other Intellectual Property may be
used by Contractor only for manufacture of the Articles on behalf of
Licensee. Licensee and Contractor recognize and agree that they are
responsible for ascertaining and ensuring that all Other Intellectual
Property are appropriate for the use to which they are put.

4. If Boeing believes that the Contractor is not complying with the
terms of this Agreement, Boeing may request, and Contractor will
promptly return to Boeing (or, at Boeing's option, destroy) all Other
Intellectual Property, together with all copies thereof and will
certify to Boeing that all such Other Intellectual Property and
copies have been so returned or destroyed.

5. When and to the extent required by a government regulatory agency
having jurisdiction over Contractor or its operations, Contractor is
authorized to provide and disclose Other Intellectual Property owned
by Boeing to the agency for the agency's use in connection with
Contractor's authorized use of such Other Intellectual Property in
connection with Contractor's manufacture of Articles. Contractor
agrees to take reasonable steps to prevent such agency from making
any distribution, disclosure, or additional use of the Other
Intellectual Property and/or Proprietary Information so provided or
disclosed. Contractor further agrees to promptly notify Boeing upon
learning of any (i) distribution, disclosure, or additional use by
such agency, (ii) request to such agency for distribution,
disclosure, or additional use, or (iii) intention on the part of such
agency to distribute, disclose, or make additional use of Other
Intellectual Property or Proprietary Information.

6. Boeing is an intended third-party beneficiary with respect to
this Agreement, and Boeing may enforce any and all of the provisions
of the Agreement directly against Contractor. Contractor hereby
submits to the jurisdiction of the Washington state courts and the
United States District Court for the Western District of Washington
with regard to any Boeing claims under this Agreement. It is agreed
that Washington law (excluding Washington's conflict-of-law rules)
will apply to this Agreement and with regard to any claim or dispute
under this Agreement.

7. No disclosure or physical transfer by Boeing or Licensee to
Contractor, of any Other Intellectual Property or Proprietary
Information covered by this Agreement will be construed as granting a
license, other than as expressly set forth in this Agreement or any
ownership right in any patent, patent application, copyright,
trademark, or trade secret.

8. The provisions of this Agreement will apply notwithstanding any
markings, or legends or the absence thereof, on any Other
Intellectual Property.

9. This Agreement is the entire agreement of the Parties regarding
the ownership and treatment of Other Intellectual Property and
Proprietary Information, and no modification of this Agreement will
be effective as against Boeing unless embodied in a writing signed by
authorized representatives of Contractor, Licensee and Boeing.

10. Failure by either Party to enforce any of the provisions of this
Agreement will not be construed as a waiver of such provisions. If
any of the provisions of this Agreement is/are held unlawful or
otherwise ineffective by a court of competent jurisdiction, the
remainder of the Agreement will remain in full force.

11. This Agreement is coterminus with the Contract, provided that
Contractor's confidentiality obligations shall survive Cancellation
of this Agreement.

ACCEPTED AND AGREED TO this: Date: _____________________ , 20___

CONTRACTOR LICENSEE

Signature: Signature:


Printed Name: Printed Name:


Title: Title:




21 posted on 01/31/2005 8:06:16 AM PST by orionblamblam
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To: fso301

> There are numerous defenses a kit maker could use ...

What makes you think kit makers have the moolah to afford the lawyers required for the court challenge?


22 posted on 01/31/2005 8:07:31 AM PST by orionblamblam
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To: TexanByBirth

My son just started building model airplanes. He built his first one last week, a Spitfire. I guess this whole operation is going down the drain.


23 posted on 01/31/2005 8:08:58 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Imaverygooddriver

> $100??

Yes. Just saw one on the shelf for $103 and change. Ebay is notably cheaper.

> And you know why? L-A-W-Y-E-R-S.

Yes, that's it. It's not that Boeing needs the money; that $1000 and change they woudl theoretically make from my pitiful little production run wouldn;t even pay for their paperwork. however: what this came from, at least with Boeing, is that some brat somewhere choked on the engine pod of a model of a Boeing jetliner... and *Boeing* got sued.

Yes, it's the lawyers.


24 posted on 01/31/2005 8:09:39 AM PST by orionblamblam
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To: fso301

Yes, there are numerous defenses kit makers could make, but copyright law is not about who is right and wrong it is about nothing more than who has the most money to spend on lawyers. Copyrights are violated everyday by people who have enough money to defend there action and false copyrights are maintained everyday by large corporations with limitless legal budgets.


25 posted on 01/31/2005 8:10:51 AM PST by azcap
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To: Imaverygooddriver
$40 per kit? What??? I smell a lawyer involved in this. "I can get you $40 per kit man"

Aother bright idea thought up by the same boobs who think the workers who manufacture the models only deserve 30¢ per hour.

26 posted on 01/31/2005 8:10:56 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Charlespg

> Nasa Space craft and US military aircraft,tanks,ect should be considered public domain

They are but... they aren't.


27 posted on 01/31/2005 8:10:57 AM PST by orionblamblam
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To: pabianice

Unbelievably stupid... You have a revenue stream... then you decide to charge $40 a pop per model.. and dry up the revenue stream.. lose the PR, lose the influence and interest of children and adults... idiotic.

US Military should make licensing likenesses part of their contracts with defense contractors from this point on... since all this stuff is built at the end of the day for them anyway.


28 posted on 01/31/2005 8:13:47 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: pabianice

And whose tax money paid for these designs originally?
Geez these people really should get a life.


29 posted on 01/31/2005 8:14:46 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland
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To: pabianice

I bought the model of the flying saucer. Who gets the royalty payment on that?


30 posted on 01/31/2005 8:17:00 AM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: TexanByBirth

Try this

http://www.modeldeals.com/md.aspx?src=overture

I hear Michaels has models as well. I am unfamiliar with the companies now.


31 posted on 01/31/2005 8:17:14 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: pabianice

Very sad...wonder if artists will be able to do a painting of a plane or car in the future?

Seems like these models are free publicity, probably not a good move to destroy that. Pennywise and pound foolish. Reminds me of the Democrat mindset, raise taxes, slow down the economy, net revenue decreases.


32 posted on 01/31/2005 8:18:20 AM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: TexanByBirth

> At those shows there are always tons of vendors with plenty of kits to sell at more reasonable prices.

Bet they are not made in US, or they are from very small companies. I guess this is the future of these kits. With our weak enforcement of IP treaties, plastic models will simply come from overseas ??


33 posted on 01/31/2005 8:22:43 AM PST by old-ager
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To: pabianice
One of my favorites when I was a kid: The Revell B-17


34 posted on 01/31/2005 8:22:56 AM PST by Pharmboy (The American Military: The World's Greatest Force for Freedom)
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To: headstamp

Ping for later read.


35 posted on 01/31/2005 8:23:21 AM PST by blau993 (Labs for love; .357 for Security.)
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To: RightWhale
I bought the model of the flying saucer. Who gets the royalty payment on that?

BINGO! THAT'S how we get them to make contact!!!

36 posted on 01/31/2005 8:24:53 AM PST by null and void (Today, we are all Iraqis!)
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To: orionblamblam

Got any good obscure non-space stuff?


37 posted on 01/31/2005 8:27:57 AM PST by norton
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To: skeeter

LOL.

Are you taking issue with capitalism?


38 posted on 01/31/2005 8:28:35 AM PST by dmz
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To: orionblamblam

It`s true, I had jury duty a few months ago and every case they put me in the pool for was a lawsuit. Lawsuit lawsuit lawsuit, and you wouldn`t believe who they sue. Anyone even slightly connected to a case, like someone trips over the crack in a sidewalk, they will sue not only the person whose property the sidewalk is on, but they will sue the people who laid the cement, made the cement, all the way down to the people who quarried the rocks put in the cement to the people who made the bags the cement was put in. They literally sue EVERYONE. It`s totally out of hand, and everytime Bush wants to put an end to this, like the medical lawsuits, the `Rats start screaming bloody hell about it.


39 posted on 01/31/2005 8:29:47 AM PST by Imaverygooddriver (I`m a very good driver and I approve this message.)
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To: Charlespg

I agree.

That stuff was all built with our tax dollars. WE are the intellectual property owners.

Well it might work.


40 posted on 01/31/2005 8:30:16 AM PST by dmz
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