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Rush for the Border (Limbaugh issues a warning to President Bush)
The Wall Street Journal (Op-Ed) ^ | 1-31-04 | John Fund

Posted on 01/31/2005 6:19:13 AM PST by DTogo

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To: JustAnotherSavage
"...Miniter's position is also rejected by leading libertarians such as Milton Friedman)."

A little on Friedman.

"Economist Milton Friedman's warning for three decades remains unheeded: open immigration cannot work in a welfare state. The wave of immigration at the turn of the 20th century was different. Among the many questions immigrants faced at Ellis Island (after the health screenings) were: How much money do you have? Do you have a job? If not, do you have a sponsor? Mr. Bush places great faith in present-day INS screening to curb the problem. How will the same folks who granted visa renewals to two of the dead 9-11-01 hijackers police this program for 15 million people?"

61 posted on 01/31/2005 1:41:54 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: JustAnotherSavage

Got that from here, http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/jennings011404.asp


62 posted on 01/31/2005 1:42:36 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: american spirit
For all the complaints about him here on FR, I know that Bill O'Reilly has made immigration reform and border security one of his pet issues. Bill's not critical of President Bush in particular, but all politicians in general (including President Bush) who pander to the mythical Hispanic vote they think wants open borders and amnesty.

I think Rush and the rest were waiting until the election was over, and if President Bush was planning to continue this agenda. Now that he's won re-election, and is indeed continuing to call for this dopey immigration policy, now's the time to respectfully "pile on" and make sure it doesn't happen.

But if we get hit by terrorists again who sneak up from Mexico and/or have drivers licenses obtained while here illegally, we should all harken back to August 24, 1814.

63 posted on 01/31/2005 1:51:28 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: JustAnotherSavage
Excellent find...and an excellent post.

The article reaffirms what I have called in my own definition...an "idealistic pragmatist". I believe that the founding fathers, and also Reagan, typify this approach to government.

Briefly, these people are guided by basic moral principles and ideals (idealists), but they apply these principles with a knowledge of history and human nature...ie...rationalists (pragmatists).

Most importantly, their 'reality' ...their perception of how the world actually works, is evaluated within the context of what is right for America, and American interests.
64 posted on 01/31/2005 2:13:00 PM PST by Dat Mon (will work for clever tagline)
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To: DTogo

Sure, better late than never but the fact is if supposedly conservative icons like Rush had acted years ago with the mission of really informing his legions of followers we could've cut off the head of the snake early on. Now, we have literally millions of new "colonists" here to establish their Aztlan beachead along with the need for billions in welfare to even survive. I'm in the Dallas area and for the last couple weeks our news has been full of illegals committing kidnappings, drive-bys, rapes, robberies, etc......and only when they're not driving on the wrong side of the damn freeways....it's ridiculous.


65 posted on 01/31/2005 2:24:11 PM PST by american spirit
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To: monkeywrench

Thank you!

I wish the President would listen to Friedman, especially here:

~~Milton Friedman has shown us that when government attempts to substitute its own judgments for the judgments of free people, the results are usually disastrous. In contrast to the free market's invisible hand, which improves the lives of people, the government's invisible foot tramples on people's hopes and destroys their dreams.

--President George W. Bush in tribute to Milton Friedman


66 posted on 01/31/2005 2:31:59 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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To: american spirit
if supposedly conservative icons like Rush had acted years ago with the mission of really informing his legions of followers we could've cut off the head of the snake early on.

And it might also have kept several hundred thousand Bush-voters at home on 11/2/04, those disgruntled over W's guest worker suggestion (which is all it is right now), and we'd be awaiting a State of the Union Speech by President John F. Kerry.

First things first: get W re-elected, secure a majority in the House and Senate, then tell them what we really think and expect of them.

67 posted on 01/31/2005 2:39:53 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: raybbr
Wow! I can see you spitting and crying tears of anger as you type this. Need some tissue. Give me your address and I'll send you some

Please, I don't need any tissue made out of Sen. byrd's former outfit as grand wizard.

68 posted on 01/31/2005 2:46:40 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
...Super Bush tracking terrorists if he's made no way of knowing who is a Mexican sneaking over the border for the spoils of the US, and who is an Arab pretending to be a Mexican?

Certainly a point. Couple years back at one of the Indymedia-type sites, I read auto-article about... an American, who hates America and only does 3-world causes, readily sneaking back into America. Domestic terrorist by another name? For that matter, should Danny Glover, be locked out of the US for rabble-rousing in South America, and major pawn operative of Fidel Castro?

69 posted on 01/31/2005 3:25:32 PM PST by Alia
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To: Dane

70 posted on 01/31/2005 3:26:12 PM PST by raybbr
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To: raybbr

How may times have I told you that I am not some liberal art dealer and am not interested in your work.

To be nice, I don't like to see people get professionally rejected, so here's a website, look up someone who may interested in your "art".

Google

71 posted on 01/31/2005 3:31:33 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane

Propaganda endorsed by Ed Asner among other willing fools.


72 posted on 01/31/2005 3:48:08 PM PST by purpleland (The price of freedom is vigilance.)
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To: Alia

Perhaps Bush is waiting for a WEIGHTY MANDATE of public indignation from REAL AMERICAN citizens to counter the phony-humanistic propaganda from the same old leftover gollywood socialists.

Phew! Fumigate the Soviet-style propaganda...


73 posted on 01/31/2005 3:57:22 PM PST by purpleland (The price of freedom is vigilance.)
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To: Dane
It's not my art work. It's something that you should be able to understand - exaggeration. Something of which you seem to be expert at.

Note: emphasis on the "dumb" part as pertains to you.

74 posted on 01/31/2005 4:05:02 PM PST by raybbr
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To: purpleland

You might be very right, Purpleland.


75 posted on 01/31/2005 4:08:45 PM PST by Alia
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To: gubamyster

Thanks for the ping. I am glad Rush has added his much needed voice to this issue!


76 posted on 01/31/2005 4:08:47 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Alia

Please note that I am NOT against Mexicans who flee Mexico -I don't blame them. My criticism is directed to the ever-prevailing oppressive economic conditions suffered by over 50% of Mexico's population, and Bush's permissive attitude towards illegal immigration and open borders during these perilous times of terrorism.





77 posted on 01/31/2005 6:44:34 PM PST by purpleland (The price of freedom is vigilance.)
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To: DTogo

"Last year, two radio talk show hosts in Los Angeles named John Kobylt and Ken Chiampou spent weeks urging listeners to defeat Mr. Dreier, who they claimed was only paying "lip service" to efforts to halt illegal immigration."

Wow


78 posted on 01/31/2005 7:00:07 PM PST by occutegirl ("She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain." ~ Louisa May Alcott)
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To: occutegirl

I take it these guys are not Kevin & Bean. ;)


79 posted on 01/31/2005 7:21:00 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: JustAnotherSavage
I am not aware of the intricacies of the proposals you discuss so I can't debate them with you. If you are corrected those things must be stopped.

However, I used to be a PI and much of my work was insurance investigations, primarily disability and workers comp. I was surprised to learn that SS was not just for old folks but that a lot of young folks were scamming SS for disability, something I didn't even know was part of SS. Some I investigated were from Ecuador but I don't know their legal status. They could have easily been illegals. This was during the Cinton administration and I am pretty sure that SS had been that way for quite awhile.
80 posted on 01/31/2005 8:19:26 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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