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Steve Gardner : Sorry Brother, Hanoi Kerry lied about you again today on Meet the Press
Meet the Press 01/30/05 ^ | 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Posted on 01/30/2005 8:37:43 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

...SEN. KERRY: We were right on the border, Tim. What I explained to people and I told this any number of times, did I go into Cambodia on a mission? Yes, I did go into Cambodia on a mission. Was it on that night? No, it was not on that night. But we were right on the Cambodian border that night. We were ambushed there, as a matter of fact. And that is a matter of record, and we went into the rec-- you know, it's part of the Navy records. It's been documented by the other guys who were on my boat. And Steve Gardner, frankly, doesn't know where we were...

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Statement By RNC Chairman Ken Mehlman On John Kerry's Appearance On Meet The Press

“On a day when all Americans, regardless of party affiliation, are celebrating the growth of freedom and honoring the sacrifices of American and Iraqi troops with elections in Iraq, it's sad that John Kerry has chosen once again to offer vacillation and defeatism. Even after the first free elections in Iraq in more than 50 years John Kerry still believes Iraq is more of terrorist threat than when the brutal tyrant Saddam Hussein was in power and even more remarkably Kerry is now once again for funding our troops, after being for the funding before he was against it.”

-Ken Mehlman, RNC Chairman
1 posted on 01/30/2005 8:37:44 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Defender2; Blue Scourge; armyman; Arrowhead1952; darkwing104; txradioguy; Long Cut; Jet Jaguar; ...

Hey Steve

I was in Viet Nam when you and the traitor were there.

I'm sick of this traitor lying.

I'm sick that NO ONE in Main Stream Media stuck up for you today.

I'm sick that the new RNC Chairman, Ken Mehlman, didn't set the record straight

on you and the other Swift Boat Vets.

I'm an Independent who supports President Bush.

BUT in my book the RNC elite and Main Stream Right Wing Media owe you an apology.

68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

USS CORRY DD 817

GMG3

'66-'69


2 posted on 01/30/2005 8:39:30 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (The US Senate only has 99 legal Senators, and 1 illegal one. U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

bump!!


3 posted on 01/30/2005 8:40:51 PM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: All
Click Here for
All the Swift Boat Vets Ads!
And All of the rest!

4 posted on 01/30/2005 8:41:14 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (The US Senate only has 99 legal Senators, and 1 illegal one. U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
I only watched part of this today (Small doses you know) and this jerk actually flip-flopped three times in a couple of minutes. Kerry 08!
5 posted on 01/30/2005 8:41:42 PM PST by drt1
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

This batch of lies was disproved before he even spoke it. WTF?


6 posted on 01/30/2005 8:42:26 PM PST by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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Why is there no justice for the 58,000 + names on the Viet Nam Wall?



Why is there no justice for to the millions,
who served with honor in Viet Nam?

When will the Right Wing Main Stream Media demand
that Hanoi Kerry apologize to the names on the Wall
And to Viet Nam Vets who served with honor?
Why are we still "war criminals" and Hanoi Kerry is a "hero"?
When will the GOP controlled Senate set the record straight?

7 posted on 01/30/2005 8:43:17 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (The US Senate only has 99 legal Senators, and 1 illegal one. U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

yea, the gunner of the boat mysteriously doesn't know where they were... Kerry what about the sugar plums dancing in your head?


8 posted on 01/30/2005 8:43:29 PM PST by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com/)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Here's my favorite part:

SEN. KERRY: I still have the hat that he gave me, and I hope the guy would come out of the woodwork and say, “I’m the guy who went up with John Kerry. We delivered weapons to the Khmer Rouge on the coastline of Cambodia. We went out of Ha Tien, which is right in Vietnam. We went north up into the border. And I have some photographs of that, and that’s what we did. So, you know, the two were jumbled together, but we were on the Cambodian border on Christmas Eve, absolutely.

So, the CIA was delivering weapons to the Maoist Khmer Rouge? What the...?! I also find it interesting that he took the Mekong to the "coastline of Cambodia." Not geographically possible, Senator. This guy just keeps digging.

9 posted on 01/30/2005 8:43:51 PM PST by inkling
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Did Kerry state again today he was in Cambodia?
This is debunked during the campaign. Has this guy lost his marbles?
How many more times do we have to listen to this idiot tell us he was in Vietnam and what the Hell does that have to do with right now and Iraq?


10 posted on 01/30/2005 8:44:37 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Here's a bump Tonk.


11 posted on 01/30/2005 8:44:44 PM PST by fatima (Go Eagles Go.Superbowl Baby (1 Corinthians 13:4-7).)
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To: All
US GOP controlled Senate

AND

Main Stream Right Wing Media

Hang your heads in shame!

When you wake up in the morning,
and look in the mirror,
before you go to the US Senate,
or to the TV or Radio studios,
know that you did nothing to remove this traitor.

Well REAL Americans know what you did NOT do!

U.S. Constitution Amendment XIV

Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress,
or elector of President and Vice President,
or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States,
or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress,
or as an officer of the United States,
or as a member of any state legislature,
or as an executive or judicial officer of any state,
to support the Constitution of the United States,
shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same,
or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.
But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.







12 posted on 01/30/2005 8:44:47 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (The US Senate only has 99 legal Senators, and 1 illegal one. U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Kerry is really working hard on "proving" he's a hero and not a liar, which I think speaks for itslef. From my personal observations in life I've found that true heroes are almost always too humble to toot their own horns, and none of them are concerned with 'proving' their hero status by talking about it incessantly on tv.


13 posted on 01/30/2005 8:45:27 PM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Boy, can Kerry ever dance! He even does flips, stands on his hands, crosses his knees, and just taps, taps, taps away. At the same time keeping up a steady rhythm with his large mouth...moving those lips...hoping, hoping, praying that no one will see what a huckster he is. And now, forever, a has-been and a loser.


14 posted on 01/30/2005 8:45:47 PM PST by Winston7000 (Near Chicago)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Tonk BUMP!


15 posted on 01/30/2005 8:47:56 PM PST by JoeSixPack1 (I am now a "SNAPDRAGON" Part of me has lost its snap and the other part is draggin')
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Johnson, Lyndon
1963-69
Nixon, Richard
1969-74

Odd, I was in Vietnam on Dec 24 and 25 1968
and Johnson was my Commander-in-Chief

John Kerry

Exhibit 25, Congressional Record - Senate of March 27, 1986, page 3594.

"Mr. President, I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the President of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia.

I have that memory which is seared -- seared -- in me . . . ."

By way of further example, Kerry wrote an article for the Boston Herald on October 14, 1979:

"I remember spending Christmas Eve of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being shot at by our South Vietnamese allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas. The absurdity of almost killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real."

See Exhibit 26.


16 posted on 01/30/2005 8:48:09 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (The US Senate only has 99 legal Senators, and 1 illegal one. U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

check this out, your pal is getting a little ribbing...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1332235/posts


17 posted on 01/30/2005 8:48:20 PM PST by bitt (Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence)
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18 posted on 01/30/2005 8:49:47 PM PST by Tuba Guy (Magic hat, Christmas in Cambodia, splinter-wounds --- whadda dickhead)
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September 6, 2004 -- **BREAKING** In Yesterday's Lies: Steve Pitkin and the Winter Soldiers, Scott Swett tells the story of a former VVAW member and participant in the Winter Soldier Investigation who states that John Kerry and others pressured him to give false testimony about American atrocities in Vietnam.

After more than 33 years, Pitkin is the first Winter Soldier "witness" to file a legal affadavit regarding that event...


AFFIDAVIT OF STEVEN J. PITKIN combat veteran of the Vietnam War (Kerry pressured him to give false Winter Soldier testimony)
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=PitkinAff

Pitkin Affadavit

AFFIDAVIT OF STEVEN J. PITKIN
STATE OF FLORIDA

COUNTY OF PALM BEACH

Before me, the undersigned authority, personally appeared Steven J. Pitkin, known, to me to be the person whose name is subscribed to this instrument, who, after first being duly sworn by me, upon oath stated:

1. My name is Steven J. Pitkin. I am over the age of twenty-one years, and I am fully competent and able to make this affidavit. I am able to swear, as I do hereby swear, that all facts and statements contained in this affidavit are true and correct and within my personal knowledge.

2. I am a combat veteran of the Vietnam War, having served with the Ninth Division of the U.S. Army beginning 25 May 1969. A mortar explosion wounded me, my wounds gradually became infected, and I was treated in an Army hospital in Okinawa. I contracted hepatitis C from blood transfusions I received during that time. I was honorably discharged from the Army on 28 August 1969.

3. Medals received for my Army service include: Combat Infantry Badge, Army Commendation Medal, National Defense Service Medal, Vietnam Service Medal, Vietnam Campaign Medal, RVN Cross of Gallantry, Air Medal, Purple Heart.

4. During my service in Vietnam, I neither witnessed nor participated in any American war crimes or atrocities against civilians, nor was I ever aware of any such actions. I did witness the results of Vietcong atrocities against Vietnamese civilians, including the murder of tribal leaders.

5. Upon my return to the United States I encountered anti-war protestors who, at various times, threw feces, spit, and screamed obscenities.

6. I met Scott Camil, an organizer of Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), at Catonsville Community College in Baltimore in 1970, and joined that organization.

7. In January of 1971, I rode in a van with Scott Camil, John Kerry, a national leader of the VVAW, and others from Washington D.C. to Detroit to attend the Winter Soldier Investigation, a conference intended to publicize alleged American war crimes in Vietnam. Having no knowledge of such war crimes, I did not intend to speak at the event.

8. During the Winter Soldier Investigation, John Kerry and other leaders of that event pressured me to testify about American war crimes, despite my repeated statements that I could not honestly do so. One event leader strongly implied that I would not be provided transportation back to my home in Baltimore, Maryland, if I failed to comply. Kerry and other leaders of the event instructed me to publicly state that I had witnessed incidents of rape, brutality, atrocities and racism, knowing that such statements would necessarily be untrue.

9. In April 1971, I attended a VVAW protest in Washington D.C. known as “Dewey Canyon III.” During this event I was present when protestors, including John Kerry, threw medals and ribbons over a fence outside the U.S. Capitol. I witnessed a man holding a bag of ribbons and medals and handing them out to other protestors. I saw that many of the ribbons and medals were not those that would be received by veterans of combat in Vietnam.

10. During the “Dewey Canyon III” protest, others and I confronted protestors who were wearing or carrying Vietcong flags.

11. After the “Dewey Canyon III” protest, I was no longer invited to meetings of the VVAW in Baltimore, and ended my association with the organization.

12. I joined the 5/20th Special Forces Group of the Maryland National Guard in 1974, was graduated from paratrooper “jump school” with honors in 1976, joined the Coast Guard in 1978 and served there until my retirement in May 1997.

(signed) Steven J. Pitkin

Further affiant saith not.

Subscribed and sworn to before me this 31st day of August, 2004.

Jonathan Feldman
Commission # DD235268
My commission expires July 28, 2007


Steve Pitkin Affadavit, August 31, 2004
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=PitkinAff


Steve Pitkin DD-214
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/graphics/PitkinDD214.jpg



Steve Pitkin WSI testimony
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=PitkinWSI



Steve Pitkin WSI video clips -- February 1, 1971 (4:16, 1.6MB)
http://www.wintersoldier.com/video/pitkin2.wmv


19 posted on 01/30/2005 8:49:56 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (The US Senate only has 99 legal Senators, and 1 illegal one. U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

I just read the transcript and I cannot believe this guy is still claiming to have been in Cambodia in Dec. 1968 when we all know he was miles away somewhere else.
I think Kerry is Certifiable and I Thank God everyday he did not win the election, I can only shudder at what this Moron might have done as CIC and President.


20 posted on 01/30/2005 8:51:00 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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