Posted on 01/29/2005 4:04:42 PM PST by Brian Mosely
MEXICO CITY (AP) - The United States and Mexico sought to defuse their spat over a U.S. alert about drug-gang violence along the border, issuing a joint statement Saturday in which Washington said its announcement was not meant to keep Americans from traveling south of the border.
Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez and U.S. Ambassador Tony Garza met over breakfast, the joint statement said, to review actions taken by the Mexican government to combat organized crime in northern Mexico, where a surge in killings and kidnappings has been linked to battles between drug gangs.
Garza, the statement said, insisted that the State Department announcement did not recommend that Americans avoid traveling to Mexico, but only that they take precautions in specific areas,
President Vicente Fox intervened in the diplomatic flap on Friday, saying violence near the border did not threaten the two nations' strong relationship.
The State Department issued the travel alert last week, telling Americans that violent crime, including murder and kidnapping, had increased along the Mexican side of the border. Mexican officials said the alert was an exaggeration.
The State Department alert was accompanied by a letter from Garza saying that the lack of security near the U.S. border could have a "chilling" effect on trade and tourism.
On Saturday, Garza said his letter was intended to give "fuller context" and "highlight the fact that the wave of border violence is a result of the successful efforts of President Fox's administration in the fight against organized crime." He said Mexico had increased federal law enforcement operations in the border region with support from the Mexican Army in its effort to combat organized crime.
Garza, nevertheless, restated deep U.S. concern for the safety of American citizens in the border region.
"Both officials noted that their governments recognize that drug trafficking and associated crime do not recognize any borders," according to the joint statement.
27 Americans just don't have much power when it comes to the oligarchs of Mexico. And just as Mexico has done nothing at all to stop the murders of women and young girls in Ciudad Juarez, it will not do anything to stop the kidnappings of Americans. The drug cartels hold too much power over that government with their huge mordidas.
I really think you are onto the truth about this. At least close. Why on earth would we cave into Fox every single time. What goes on with Mexico is beyond belief. Such a trashy third-world country, yet dragging America around by the nose.
i gotta kick out of the local paper here.
a caption underneath el presidente fox's picture said that he didn't want any interference in mexican affairs!
this, from the guy that's always interfering in ours!
Take a look at that laredomissing link --- imagine that we cannot warn women to stay out of Mexico even to save their lives because the corrupt Mexican government has said we cannot.
It was only a warning --- and we had to back down from that. Absurd. I wonder how Bush would like Barbara and Jenna being abducted over the border and likely suffering the fate of so many other women along the border inside Mexico.
Well, Fox must have SOMETHING. The Bush pandering to Fox and the illegals is appalling and considering the way the American public feels about the illegals for Bush to totally ignore us it must be a beaut.
I think Tony Garza may be the fall guy in all of this. IIRC, he put out the first notice September 2004. This was mainly in regards to the Reynosa police robbing Americans at ATMs. The notice in essence told Americans not to take debit cards, credit cards or much cash to Mexico. As the crime in Mexico escalated this fall, Garza put out more notices even referring to the killings.
This week the State Department put out a notice. This notice is the one that really got the Mexican officials in a snit.
I wonder why Condi Rice is silent on this especially since 2 FBI agents have been threatened within the last 24 hours.
there's a psychopathology taking control of mexico.
unlike many countries around the world, mexico is NOT moving forward in a constructive manner.
This is flat out surreal. I am really and truly speechless at this moment. It would take a fist full of Vicodin and a bottle of cheap mezcal to make me even begin to imagine this spineless development.
Our government just rolled over faster than a two dollar whore at the sight of a ten spot.
What would you want her to say? She can't oppose presidential policy.
This is unreal.
Fox News did a documentary interviewing a Border Patrol man and his wife (last year), who live in a trailer right on this side of the fence. They are BEGGING for our government to send help down to them, ANY kind of help. Even if is our National Guards.
Night after night, the Border patrol and his wife wearing night goggles take pictures for proof. Thousands are coming across in hordes. And that IS night after night. Fox News even showed the video tapes that the Border and his wife have been taking of these people jumping the fence and running.
The Fox Newsman (I forget his name. He has the gray hair, is tall, thin with a long thin face), spent the night with this couple, also using night goggles to watch for himself.
The next morning, they walked about the yard. She said that they are NOT all Mexican's. That they have found the books of the Koran and prayer rugs dropped in haste as the people jumped the fence and ran on into our Country.
She showed the rugs and the books to the Fox Newsman. It was horrifying.
What with all the Mosque's in our Country, what better shelter for the terrorists to find shelter? They are here, people. Scattered all over the United States.
Here is an updated map of where all the Mosque's are. Look and weep for our Country.
LOL. "She can't oppose presidential policy."
Until I saw the pictures on the laredomissing site --- I figured it was just like the Mexican government always claims of it's own dead and missing woman --- just prostitutes and girlfriends of drug king pins --- thats what they always say --- and you figure it's just some streetwalker or drug buyer who was in the wrong place at the wrong time --- until you see the pictures.
Your map is out dated. There is also a mosque in Mission, Texas.
Many here say the murderers of Juarez women are most likely the sons of the powerful families of Juarez, and that's why that government has done everything it could not to have those murders solved.
Same for the kidnapped US citizens of Laredo --- some might have been involved in crime, working for a targetted cartel --- but likely some are just innocents.
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by Frosty Woolridge
September 17, 2004
"From October 1, 2003 to July 20, 2004, the border patrols Tucson sector stopped 9,051 person crossing illegal who had criminal records in the U.S., meaning they committed crimes here, returned to Mexico, then were trying to re-enter the country," Time magazine wrote. "A minimum of 378 had active warrants for their arrest."
Most go undetected.
"The numbers suggest that tens of thousands of criminals, quite possibly hundreds of thousands, treat the border as a revolving door to crimes of opportunity," Steele wrote. "The situation is so out of control that 400,000 illegal aliens who have been ordered deported, 80,000 have criminal records, but Homeland Security does not have a clue as to the whereabouts of any of them, including those from countries that support terrorism."...
Of 114 Iranians with final orders for removal, only 11 could be found and deported. Of 67 Sudanese with final removal orders, only one was deported. Of 46 Iraqis, only four were deported. The rest are free to move about the country.
Not mentioned in the report was the 20,000 member "18th Street Gang" made up of 60% illegal aliens in Los Angeles. It distributes drugs from Mexico, commits robberies daily, extorts businesses and engages in drive-by shootings. Along with them, the 8,000 member MS 13 Central American gangs operate in 28 cities. If anyone wonders why drugs are SO available to our kids, thank our Congress for not fulfilling its oath of office. Even more sobering, these alien criminals are protected in hundreds of cities across the United States by "Special Order 40" that allows them to remain in country without fear of arrest or deportation.
"Both parties and their candidates pay lip service to controlling the borders," Barlett wrote. "In the 99/11 commissions final report, the panel took note of the immigration breakdown saying, "'Two systemic weaknesses came together in our border system's inability to contribute to an effective defense against 9/11 attacks: a lack of well developed counterterrorism measures as a part of border security and an immigration system not able to deliver on its basic commitments, much less support counterterrorism.'"
The TIME report rendered severe implications toward President Bush and members of Congress on both sides of the corridor. Citizens of the United States were not being served before 9/11 and today, they are JUST as vulnerable as 4,000 illegal aliens cross our borders daily. You have to wonder when Beslan, Russia's tragedy will visit an American school in the near future?
Then more Mosque's are still moving in then. I have been using the map, published in 2002 from Steve Emerson:
Then, just this week, the updated map appeared. As you can see, a lot more have sprung up in just the 2.5 years.
To me, this is frightening.
Read my post #31.
Unfortunately, Mexico seems to be stuck in the 19th century.
I did.
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