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Iraqi Election~~~~~ Live thread.
All of us | Jan 29 2005 | Various Freepers

Posted on 01/29/2005 4:03:31 PM PST by Dog

It is now 3 am in Iraq the polls will be opening in the next few hours as the world watches and hold's it breath. Iraq is about to undertake a historic vote.

Lets wish them well....... please post all comments and election photos to this thread.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: christianityno; iraqielection; iraqifreedom; iraqivote; keywordfreak; nomorechristianity; postwariraq; rebuildingiraq; religionofpeace; suckittedkennedy; theamericansoldier; ultimatesacrifice
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To: rwfromkansas

The count is up to 17 now? (see the caption below the picture I just posted)


2,241 posted on 01/30/2005 1:16:23 AM PST by stlnative
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To: Allegra

LOL....That's OK , you deserve it!!!


2,242 posted on 01/30/2005 1:16:27 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

The great thing about SJL is that nobody has any illusions that she has any wisdom on any issue. She is one of the great dunces of all time.

The call to "internationalize" is so empty. Iraqizing-- what we're doing--is the only way. If the Frogs or anybody else want to pitch in, they've always been welcome to.

Kerry should call up MTP and say he got the stomach flu and can't be on. That would be prudent.


2,243 posted on 01/30/2005 1:16:31 AM PST by faithincowboys
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To: Route66

Too bad Fox didn't have Shep do his snapshots (esp. with all the great stories he had the last time) near the top of the hour now. Saving him for when more are watching maybe? I think they should have done it again now for all us diehards staying up so late and wanting more news before we go to bed! ;-)


2,244 posted on 01/30/2005 1:16:42 AM PST by mfccinsd
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To: All

CNN just showed a report showing a packed polling place with people dancing around and rejoicing at having a chance to take back their country. This is so neat.


2,245 posted on 01/30/2005 1:17:28 AM PST by moonpie57 (Fred Howell McMurray, Jr...The man on my POW bracelet)
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Iraqis Vote in Election, 17 Die in Attacks

By HAMZA HENDAWI, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraqis voted Sunday in their country's first free election in a half-century and insurgents made good on threats of violence, launching three deadly suicide bombings and mortar strikes at polling stations across Iraq. At least 17 people were killed, including five policemen.

Casting his vote, Interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi called it "the first time the Iraqis will determine their destiny." The country's mostly ceremonial president, Ghazi al-Yawer, said it was Iraq's first step "toward joining the free world."

Security was tight. About 300,000 Iraqi and American troops were on the streets and on standby to protect voters, who entered polling stations under loops of razor wire and after being searched.

Despite the heavy attacks, turnout was brisk in some Shiite Muslim and mixed Shiite-Sunni neighborhoods. Even in the small town of Askan in the so-called "triangle of death" south of Baghdad — a mixed Sunni-Shiite area — 20 people waited in line at each of several polling centers. More walked toward the polls.

"This is democracy," said an elderly woman in a black abaya, Karfia Abbasi. She held up a thumb stained with purple ink to prove she had voted.

In a potentially troublesome sign, however, the polls were deserted in heavily Sunni cities like Fallujah, Ramadi and Samarra west and north of Baghdad. Sunni extremists, fearing victory by the Shiites, have called for a boycott, claiming no vote held under U.S. military occupation is legitimate.

The governor of the mostly Sunni province of Salaheddin, Hamad Hmoud Shagti, urged voters over the radio: "This is a chance for you as Iraqis to assure your and your children's future."

A low Sunni turnout could undermine the new government and worsen the tensions among the country's ethnic, religious and cultural groups.

The election is a major test of President Bush's goal of promoting democracy in the Middle East. If successful, it also could hasten the day when the United States brings home its 150,000 soldiers. At least 1,428 members of the U.S. military have died since the beginning of the Iraq war in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.

In restive Mosul in the north, American troops and Iraqi soldiers roamed the streets, using loudspeakers to announce the locations of polling sites and urging people to vote. But streets were deserted.

An election day ban on most private cars forced relatives and even police to help elderly people to the polls. Some were carried in the arms of relatives, or taken in push cars. At one polling place in eastern Baghdad, an Iraqi policeman in a black ski mask tucked his assault rifle under one arm and held the hand of an elderly blind woman to guide her to the polls.

The driving ban also affected the rebels. Several used belts of explosives rather than cars rigged with bombs to launch their suicide missions.

In the most deadly attack Sunday, a suicide bomber blew himself up at a polling station in western Baghdad, killing himself, three policemen and a civilian, officials said. Witness Faleh Hussein said the bomber approached a line of voters and detonated an explosives belt. Six people were also injured.

In a second suicide attack at a school in western Baghdad, three people and the bomber died, police said.

And in a third suicide mission, at a polling center in a western part of Baghdad, one policemen and the bomber died, police said.

Also, three people were killed when mortars landed near a polling station in Sadr City, the heart of Baghdad's Shiite Muslim community. Seven to eight others were wounded, police said.

In addition, two people were killed when a mortar round missed a school serving as a polling center and hit a nearby home in southwestern Baghdad, said police Capt. Mohammed Taha.

Another policeman was killed in a mortar attack on a polling station in Khan al-Mahawil, south of Baghdad.

"There will be some isolated attacks here and there, but they will not stop the voting," said Majid Lazem Fartousi, one of 159 candidates on the ticket of the Democratic Iraqi Movement.

Al-Yawer was among the first to cast his ballot, voting alongside his wife at election headquarters in the heavily fortified Green Zone in central Baghdad. After voting, he walked away with an Iraqi flag given to him by a poll worker.

"I'm very proud and happy this morning," al-Yawer told reporters. "I congratulate all the Iraqi people and call them to vote for Iraq."

Final results will not be known for seven to 10 days, but a preliminary tally could come as early as late Sunday.

A spokesman for Iraq's elections commission said all the nearly 5,200 polling stations nationwide opened on schedule. Iraqis were marking two ballots: one to elect the National Assembly, the other for a provincial legislature.

"I don't have a job. I hope the new government will give me a job," said one voter, Rashi Ayash, 50, a former lieutenant colonel in the Iraqi force. "I voted for the rule of law."

Shiite Muslims, estimated at 60 percent of Iraq's 26 million people, are expected to turn out in large numbers, encouraged by clerics who hope their community will gain power after generations of oppression by the Sunni minority.

"God willing, the elections will be good ... Today's voting is very important," said the head of the main Shiite cleric-endorsed ticket, Abdul-Aziz al-Hakim.

At one voting center in the heavily Shiite Muslim city of Nasiriyah in the south, about 40 people lined up waiting to vote.

But at a school-turned-polling station in Baghdad's middle-class Karrada neighborhood, a mixed Shiite-Sunni area, only three voters appeared in the first 45 minutes.

Under the eye of sharpshooters looking down from nearby rooftops, they were searched and forced to remove their jackets and take their batteries from their cell phones. Occasional bursts of machine gun fire echoed through Baghdad's deserted streets.

Voting was brisk as expected in Kurdish-ruled areas of northern Iraq, where voters were also choosing a regional parliament.

"I can't read or write so I ticked the number" of the Kurdish ticket, said Fouad Fattah, 29, a policeman in Irbil. "I was afraid to make a mistake. I hope the Kurds get a great number of votes so that we can rule ourselves."

One man marked the forms for his 70-year-old father who was unable to read it himself.

"This is our first (voting) experience. Naturally people are confused," said polling station manager Abdullah Ahmed. "We are not used to it. They don't even know how to put the ballot papers in the boxes."

In Saddam Hussein's hometown of Tikrit, only seven people showed up in the first two hours of voting at a school in the city center, while in the diverse city of Baquoba, jubilant voters danced and clapped outside a polling station.

Insurgents have threatened death to any Iraqis who show up to vote. On Sunday, an Internet posting claiming to be from an al-Qaida linked group that had previously threatened voters warned: "Democracy and representative councils, brothers, is part of the religion of the infidels. ... Accepting them is ... renouncing Islam."

Iraqi officials have predicted that up to eight million of 14 million voters — just over 57 percent — will turn out for Sunday's election. Voters in the Kurdish-run north also will select a regional parliament.

Iraqi expatriates in 14 countries cast absentee ballots on the second of three days of voting abroad, and officials said that by late Saturday, about two-thirds of those registered had voted so far. Iraqi leaders had been disappointed that less than a quarter of the estimated 1.2 million expatriate Iraqis eligible to vote worldwide registered to do so.

Despite the strict security and a nighttime curfew, guerrillas hit the U.S. Embassy compound in the Green Zone with a rocket Saturday evening, killing a Defense Department civilian and a Navy sailor and wounding four other Americans, according to State Department spokesman Noel Clay in Washington.

The Defense Department released grainy footage shot from an unmanned spy drone of what it said showed figures shooting a rocket and running away. It then showed U.S. soldiers entering a house where the suspected militants sought refuge, and said seven people were arrested.

Another American soldier was killed by a roadside bomb in Baghdad.

Bush said in his weekly radio address from the White House that the election "will add to the momentum of democracy."

"The terrorists and those who benefited from the tyranny of Saddam Hussein know that free elections will expose the emptiness of their vision," he said.

A ticket endorsed by the country's leading Shiite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, is expected to fare best among the 111 candidate lists. However, no faction is expected to win an outright majority, meaning possibly weeks of political deal-making before a new prime minister is chosen.

2,246 posted on 01/30/2005 1:17:29 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Simply no way it will get to even 100 (probably, unless they are waiting to launch some massive offensive).

Right there are 17.


2,247 posted on 01/30/2005 1:17:48 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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To: piasa
Kerry's not there for the elections, he's hoping someone will detonate a fig or date cache so he can win another purple heart.

ROFLOL!!!

2,248 posted on 01/30/2005 1:17:55 AM PST by kcvl
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To: rwfromkansas

Even if it gets to 100 it's no big deal, the sense going in was that they would completely thwart the election and kill thousands. That hasn't happened, Thank God....


2,249 posted on 01/30/2005 1:18:06 AM PST by faithincowboys
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To: rwfromkansas

Don't jinx it. If you keep going on like that, I'll start to think awful things about you.


2,250 posted on 01/30/2005 1:18:51 AM PST by faithincowboys
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To: hineybona
Angry was my first feeling too. But it is very sick to "HATE" a president so bad you wish death and distruction on a people .

I almost outed my 1000 post accout ;-)

2,251 posted on 01/30/2005 1:18:52 AM PST by Deetes
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To: BigSkyFreeper

A predator UAV caught them right after they fired the missile.

Then followed them to their hide out. The predator ground crew let the ground pounders know exactly where they could be found.

The troops arrested them and checked them for residue from the rocket. Got positive result.

Bingo.


2,252 posted on 01/30/2005 1:18:59 AM PST by Jet Jaguar (Civilization is an enormous improvement on the lack thereof. (O'Rourke))
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To: rwfromkansas

Doom and gloom CNN and MSNBC were making it sound like it was huge numbers at each of the suicide bombings...guess that got squashed when the folks from Iraq were giving updates and countering what they were trying to say initally. LOL.

It was like CNN was looking for bad news to give us...and to make it seem worse for each "event".......but they were better than MSNBC has been when Fox goes to another video segment from way earlier in the day, etc.

What will the MSM do when we didn't have hundreds killed and blood flowing all over like they seemed to be anticipating?


2,253 posted on 01/30/2005 1:19:14 AM PST by mfccinsd
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To: brigette

yep. Well, shucks. I was hoping it would be REALLY REALLY low to defy even the tiniest negativity.

But, it still won't get remotely close to a worst-case scenario, or even moderately bad.


2,254 posted on 01/30/2005 1:19:39 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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To: SeaBiscuit

Saw this on Power Line:

"...missed the fact that Iraqi expatriates are voting in Syria. Thus, Iraqis living in Syria can participate in a democratic process, but Syrians can't."

source: http://powerlineblog.com/archives/009380.php

That's got to get some Syrians talking!!


2,255 posted on 01/30/2005 1:19:47 AM PST by baseball_fan (Thank you Vets)
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To: rwfromkansas

yes but 17 out of possibly 14 million registered voters? - I mean if 7 mil of the 14 mil actually vote, then the death count is very low even if 100 or more killed.


2,256 posted on 01/30/2005 1:20:14 AM PST by stlnative
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To: Jet Jaguar

OH! So that's what the drone video was that I saw earlier. Cool!!


2,257 posted on 01/30/2005 1:20:15 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: faithincowboys

okay...will shut up. lol. :)


2,258 posted on 01/30/2005 1:20:23 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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To: rwfromkansas
Actually 17 dead so far.... if its under 50 by the end of the day, that will be good news. The terrorist insurgents were hoping for mega casualties in the hundreds range. I don't think now we'll see it. There's just so much more good news than bad and the Iraqi election is proceeding as well as can be expected in a violence-wracked country. We should see today's vote as the triumph of ordinary people over gangs of criminals and brigands who want to return them to life under another tyranny.

Denny Crane: "I want two things. First God and then Fox News."

2,259 posted on 01/30/2005 1:20:26 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

yep.


2,260 posted on 01/30/2005 1:21:01 AM PST by Jet Jaguar (Civilization is an enormous improvement on the lack thereof. (O'Rourke))
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