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Bill Gates says China has created brand-new form of capitalism (and praises Communist leaders)
Agence France Presse ^ | January 29, 2005

Posted on 01/29/2005 1:07:29 AM PST by HAL9000

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To: EGPWS

I'm not sure what your point is, however, "he knows..." is without relevance.

Consider that Bill Gates offered to sell microsoft to Ross Perot for $12 million in the early 80s. Ross offered only $3 million so the deal never happened.

The point being that both of these very successful businessmen had no idea what the future held for microsoft. An example of why central planning does not work, no matter how smart or the qualifications of the planner.

The merits of private property or slavery is a moral issue, not an economic or business issue.

Bill Gates is probably making these remarks because he is frustrated after finding out ebay wouldn't let him list his soul for sale, and he isn't sure if the devil's offer is the best he can get.

(I've been using the Firefox browser for a about a month and am very happy with it. If any of you are using Explorer you should consider a switch)




21 posted on 01/29/2005 2:57:30 AM PST by usa1776
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To: EGPWS
He knows what it takes to maintain a business in a free society and has done so in a legal manner.

Of course some others have taken a liking to the idea of the producers becoming the wards of Government to make for a better world. Do YOU promote such an ideal?

Oddly enough, many business people prefer to make a "better United States" than a better "world." Some of us don't condone the idea of slave labor & crappy products in return for higher profits....all the while enriching an avowed enemy.

Might just be because we are a "Christian" nation.

22 posted on 01/29/2005 2:57:38 AM PST by garandgal
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To: Willie Green; A. Pole; neutrino

ping


23 posted on 01/29/2005 3:34:08 AM PST by raybbr (Yea)
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To: HAL9000
They have this mericratic way of picking people for these government posts where you rotate into the university and really think about state allocation of resources and the welfare of the country and then you rotate back into some bureaucratic position."

This is baloney, he needs to get to know a few people there. Underlings find their way to the top by kissing ass. This is usually done in the form of "giving presents", (at least those are the words that my chinese freinds use). There may be people that are spotted as having an aptitude to advance, but that is not an automatic qualification, it is just the start of the process, where the supervisor starts the process of soliciting "presemts".

Kind of reminds me of the way some of our city governments work.

24 posted on 01/29/2005 3:36:36 AM PST by morque2001 (Life is a tragedy for those who feel, and a comedy for those who think.)
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To: Bush2000; Golden Eagle; KwasiOwusu

Spin this.


25 posted on 01/29/2005 3:37:29 AM PST by HAL9000 (Spreading terrorist beheading propaganda videos is an Act of Treason!)
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To: morque2001

On second thought, I wonder if that is how you advance at Microsoft?


26 posted on 01/29/2005 3:37:47 AM PST by morque2001 (Life is a tragedy for those who feel, and a comedy for those who think.)
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To: snowsislander

Gates is a DORK and is out of his league. He let the Democrats in the US nearly sue him out of existance.


27 posted on 01/29/2005 3:55:42 AM PST by Jimbaugh (They will not get away with this. Developing . . . . .)
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To: HAL9000

Bill is trying to be Charles Lindburgh of the 21st century! Does a great thing and thinks he knows what he's talking about.


28 posted on 01/29/2005 3:57:47 AM PST by Bommer (JFK - "Pay any Cost! Bare any Burden" TFK "I'll pay what you want and bare my @aa!")
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To: HAL9000
Have a look at China (on the extreme right side of the map, scroll right).



Quite a few of our corporates have used false environmentalism to put their domestic competition out of business. So we pay more and work less. If you've been around them in person, you'll know how left-leaning their mindsets are. See what they've done with China.
29 posted on 01/29/2005 4:00:20 AM PST by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: HAL9000

He's just kissing ass to sell a billion copies of MS Word in Chinese.


30 posted on 01/29/2005 4:03:31 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Blackyce

Unfortunately we may end up in the same way. Illegal immigrants and outsourcing jobs overseas will ultimately create a US society where 10 percent will live well off (the guys who run the corporations and the people who provide critical services for them), 80 percent digital serfs who will be willing to work for anything and 10 percent permenantly unemployed and kept docile by entitlements or are involved in crime. Right now there is no laws on the books and no will on our politicians to stop it.


31 posted on 01/29/2005 4:05:52 AM PST by Fee (Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
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To: snowsislander; EGPWS
The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation gave $8.8 million to the Planned Parenthood Federation.
http://www.cnn.com/2000/HEALTH/women/12/11/health.women.gates.reut/

"Microsoft offers source code to China"
http://itmatters.com.ph/news/news_03032003a.html
(removed from major news sites)

Gates: Buy stamps to send e-mail
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/03/05/spam.charge.ap/

Bill Gates against repealing the inheritance tax
http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript_inheritance.html

"Soros, one of the wealthiest men in the world, promised $15.5 million to defeating President Bush. Also on this list are Bill Gates,..."
http://www.americasvoices.org/archives2003/CoxJ/CoxJ_112403.htm

The Left-Wing Billionaire Collectivist Pigs
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/9/25/191020.shtml

Billionaire Collectivist Pigs on a Roll
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/10/11/171315.shtml

"Gun-Control Group Changes Name, Keeps Agenda"
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=%5C%5CNation%5C%5Carchive%5C%5C200106%5C%5CNAT20010615a.html
(and Bill is a contributor)

"Is Bill Gates a closet liberal?"
http://archive.salon.com/21st/feature/1998/01/cov_29feature.html
(Bill Gates for gun control, pro-abortion, etc.)

http://vikingphoenix.com/news/madminute/1997/mm970040.htm
(Gates on gun control)

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/law/july-dec97/guns_11-4.html
(more money for gun control from Gates and his father)

"Bill Gates Is No Free Market Hero"
http://brian.carnell.com/articles/2000/12/000046.html

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/opinion/datelinedc/s_176864.html


Client testimonials, Bill Gates in China, Bill Clinton in China
http://www.beijinghighlights.com/testimonials/testimonials.htm

"State-owned Software Firm Ties up with Microsoft China"
http://fpeng.peopledaily.com.cn/200107/07/eng20010707_74398.html
32 posted on 01/29/2005 4:10:12 AM PST by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: Fee

Please sir, may I be one of the guys who lives well.


33 posted on 01/29/2005 4:11:32 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: HAL9000; All

Interesting. Good post/comments.


34 posted on 01/29/2005 4:22:06 AM PST by PGalt
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To: snowsislander; EGPWS

Oh, and MS also filed a brief in favor of "affirmative action" in the Michigan "Grutter v. Bollinger" (Michigan University) case. Such "affirmative action," BTW, doesn't do much to help men of other colors. It's an excuse for the preference of white women in universities and jobs. ...breaks families and keeps the labor pool large.

But the problem with it is...

"Then it will be plain that the first condition for the liberation of the wife is to bring the whole female sex back into public industry, and that this in turn demands the abolition of the monogamous family as the economic unit of society" (Frederick Engels, "Origins of the Family, Private Property, and the State").

Mao's Little Red Book on Women
http://www.paulnoll.com/China/Documents/Mao-31-Women.html

Some of Lenin's words on women
http://www.marx.org/archive/lenin/works/1919/nov/06.htm

The following is from the "Manifesto of the Communist Party" [Karl Marx (1818-1883) and Fredrick Engels]
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch02.htm

"The bourgeois sees his wife a mere instrument of production. He hears that the instruments of production are to be exploited in common, and, naturally, can come to no other conclusion that the lot of being common to all will likewise fall to the women."

He has not even a suspicion that the real point aimed at is to do away with the status of women as mere instruments of production.

For the rest, nothing is more ridiculous than the virtuous indignation of our bourgeois at the community of women which, they pretend, is to be openly and officially established by the Communists. The Communists have no need to introduce free love; it has existed almost from time immemorial."

“Everyone who knows anything of history also knows that great social revolutions are impossible without the feminine ferment. Social progress may be measured precisely by the social position of the fair sex (plain ones included)” (Karl Marx Letter to Ludwig Kugelmann, MECW, Volume 43, p. 184,
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1868/letters/68_12_12.htm)


35 posted on 01/29/2005 4:26:07 AM PST by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: HAL9000
I wondered who would replace Ted Turner as "the money mouth that roared".
36 posted on 01/29/2005 4:27:07 AM PST by G.Mason (A war mongering, UN hating, military industrial complex loving, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: HAL9000
Maybe Bill's got a bit of fear about Chinese programmers and marketeers overtaking the world market with cheap MS-killing software. WalWare. To run in their PCs. Would that affect MS stock value?
37 posted on 01/29/2005 4:31:16 AM PST by polymuser
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To: HAL9000

You took the words out of my mouth. LOL. Maybe they might place the blame on FireFox.


38 posted on 01/29/2005 4:34:39 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: HAL9000

""It is a brand-new form of capitalism, and as a consumer its the best thing that ever happened," Gates told an informal meeting late Friday at the World Economic Forum in this ski resort.

He characterised the Chinese model in terms of "willingness to work hard and not having quite the same medical overhead or legal overhead."

Or the same governmental or environmental regulations, Bill. The model is the same as the dawn of industrial America. You know, the one before safety regulations in the mines and garment district.

The difference is this, Bill. If the Chinese workers strike and riot for better conditions, the government will kill them and no questions will be asked.


39 posted on 01/29/2005 4:45:24 AM PST by OpusatFR
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To: HAL9000
This brand-new form of capitalism is called Socialism, you farging moron Bill Gates!
40 posted on 01/29/2005 4:57:58 AM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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