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The Return of the Draft
rollingstone ^ | Jan 27 05 | Tim Dickinson

Posted on 01/28/2005 10:37:21 PM PST by churchillbuff

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To: churchillbuff
Are you calling Rolling Stone uncomfortable fact? I call it extremely uncomfortable toilet paper.
41 posted on 01/28/2005 11:10:52 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Hit'em in the Head)
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To: churchillbuff

Well of course he isn't paid to do that by the gov't; he's retired! Of course, that doesn't mean that somebody in the private field isn't paying him to say mean and nasty things. Or perhaps it's simply because he despises the current administration. At least get your facts straight before you go off on everybody here.


42 posted on 01/28/2005 11:11:00 PM PST by DrGunsforHands
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To: flashbunny
You don't post 'facts',

I just posted a long memo by the head of the Army Reserve - - a memo that none of my critics want to talk about. It's so much easier to drown out difficult news by calling me names. Oh, well, Churchill was shouted down - always in the minority till '39 - so somebody who takes his name as a handle isn't cowed by all the jeering I get. I figure, somebody has to post the articles that people around here want to ignore as they try to maintain the fiction that the Iraq invasion is going well.

43 posted on 01/28/2005 11:12:39 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
If your idea of "facts" and "news" is a stupid, juvenile article from Rolling freakin' Stone, you are more pathetic and asinine than I gave you credit for.

You are a boil on the butt of FreeRepublic. You are easily the most annoying and stupid poster, constantly putting words on people's keyboards and proclaiming your almighty superiority and unique logic.

There is only one poster more annoying than you and I wish he were here right now to excerpt your execrable posts. Your cynical attempt to post this on Friday night to get it play over the weekend is despicable and it is yet more evidence of the intellectual poverty of the positions you take.

Everyone on this thread is now dumber for having read you. May God have mercy on your soul.

44 posted on 01/28/2005 11:13:03 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: Cornpone
Are you calling Rolling Stone uncomfortable fact? """

No, I'm refering to the memo from the head of the Army Reserve, where he says the reserve is overstretched and on the way to being "broken." Whether he's right or not, that he said it is a "fact" - and it's an uncomfortable fact.

45 posted on 01/28/2005 11:14:31 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff; All

A draft? Oh my! You mean our sons and daughters may have to serve their country? Oh my! I think you have missed the point here. A draft isn't nice but a draft is a draft. Its the price you pay for freedom. And if most people aren't aware most of the countries I've been to have compulsory military service. There is no draft. Everyone serves period. Every male in the country my wife came from serves in the military. The two foreign exchange students that stayed with us during Thanksgiving are now doing military training in Germany. I dealt with the draft. What's the point?


46 posted on 01/28/2005 11:22:56 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Hit'em in the Head)
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To: Cornpone
I dealt with the draft. What's the point?"""

Since you apparently support a draft, why would you be t'd at me for posting an article that suggests one might be in our future? (And no, I don't believe most of what's in Rolling Stone - for me, the "money" quote in this article, is the memo from the head of the Army Reserve, who says they're overstretched and on the way to being "broken." That's serious stuff)

47 posted on 01/28/2005 11:25:53 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: Cornpone

McPeak also bilked and fleeced his base's MWR (Morale, Welfare and Recreation) fund to the tune of $20,000 plus to renovate and redecorate his Office of Wing Commander.

That was before he was bumped into the widely believed to be harmless position of Air Force Chief of Staff at the Pentagon.

He's also responsible for renovating the Air Force "Class A" Dress Uniform from a Greyhound Bus Driver's uniform to that of low rent Airline Pilot.

Word was that McPeak was a lousy Phantom Driver too.

Jack.


48 posted on 01/28/2005 11:27:11 PM PST by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Disemboweler of the WFTD Thread)
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To: churchillbuff

A draft is a fix that next to nobody favors, for a host of reasons in this high tech military age. If there is a shortage, the pay will be increased. Letting gays in is another source of bodies, but whatever. The draft specter is raised by those who do not favor it, in order to truncate Bush's foreign policy, through enervating his public support, particularly with the young, via a putting up a straw-man. It actually worked pretty well in 2004 for the con artists. Bush ran peculiarly poorly with the young, which showed up in ski resort and university counties, where the middle to upper middle class youth demographic was significant.


49 posted on 01/28/2005 11:27:21 PM PST by Torie
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To: flashbunny

Churchillbluff is a member of a protected species - trolls who signed up in 1998
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Is this true? I assumed trolls would be banned right away, like they are on DU. But after a couple of months on FR, I've noticed a lot of leeway given long timers, even when their posts seem to be the antithesis of FR philosophy. Forgive my ignorance of the process, I claim newbie status and only seek information!


50 posted on 01/28/2005 11:27:36 PM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal-Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: Cornpone

The 13th Amendment prohibits the draft. It's that simple.


51 posted on 01/28/2005 11:28:39 PM PST by libertyman (Dims = tax & SPEND; GOP = borrow & SPEND. Either way, WE'RE SCREWED!)
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To: ariamne

Tenure does help. I know. Cheers.


52 posted on 01/28/2005 11:28:51 PM PST by Torie
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To: churchillbuff

President Bush will not reinstate the draft because it would kill the Republican party.


53 posted on 01/28/2005 11:28:55 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: Torie
Letting gays in is another source of bodies, but whatever."""

Oh, right, that's a wonderful answer. Separate showers, please.

54 posted on 01/28/2005 11:30:42 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: spinestein

Shades of "McNamara's 100,000", spinstein.

The widening of the draft's net while dumbing down the standards. Focusing on those just smart enough to sign their own death warrant. The early precursor to Jimma Carter's "Hollow Force".

Jack.


55 posted on 01/28/2005 11:31:10 PM PST by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Disemboweler of the WFTD Thread)
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To: churchillbuff

Why do I get this feeling we agree on absolutely nothing as it pertains to the public square? LOL.


56 posted on 01/28/2005 11:31:48 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
Letting gays in is another source of bodies, but whatever."""

The lavender legion? That'll sure scare the Moslems. Not.

57 posted on 01/28/2005 11:32:16 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: ariamne

What's worse about this cretin is not his disagreeing with philosophy or disagreeability, it's his trollish behavior.


58 posted on 01/28/2005 11:32:25 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: churchillbuff

I didn't say I supported a draft. I simply said service to country is the price you pay for freedom. And sometimes, because unlike most of the world we don't have compulsory military service, we may need to institute a draft. Big deal. I'm truly sorry if people have to wake up one day and acknowledge they are Americans and there is a wall that needs to be defended. I don't disagree that troop shortages are a serious issue. Far from it. But wringing our hands over a draft is a crock. If Americans don't like our government's policies they can vote their representatives out of office. If they don't care to defend their freedoms, then maybe they should just outsource their citizenship. Looks like we're going that way.


59 posted on 01/28/2005 11:34:23 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Hit'em in the Head)
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To: churchillbuff

Of course, it is impossible that gays could be lean mean killing machines. That is why the Spartans and the Israelis did not in the case of the former, and do not in the case of the latter, allow them to serve out of the closet, in the phalanxes and fighter jets, past and present, not. Cheers.


60 posted on 01/28/2005 11:37:46 PM PST by Torie
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