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To: bvw
So you admit there's nothing "hard science" quite yet about mammal-level species evolution! Yet you HOPE that there will be.

Why would he "admit" to such a lie? And why would you put such a lie into his mouth?

The hope is fine -- just know it for what it is -- hope and not reality.

*Another* lie. There is an *enormous* amount of hard science about "mammal-level species evolution". A substantial number of links to some of it has been posted to this very thread already.

Please explain *why* you anti-evolutionists lie like this, and so transparently. I just don't understand it. Are you *TRYING* to discredit religion and conservatism?

715 posted on 01/30/2005 7:16:45 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon
First I'm not anti-evolution. Clearly ideas evolve, and structures built on those ideas evolve.

And I see that you confuse what the hard science parts of such science geology or archeology say about chemistry and physical properties of the things they research with the soft science theories they use to attempt to tie those hard facts and datums together. Some once soft theories have developed such backbone tying theory and observation so well together, in a manner both testable and tightly cohesive with observations they become like a "hard science", even a hard science. Plate tectonics.is one example.

"Evolution" the general term has some uses that are indeed hard science -- in artificial intelligence. In biology? Are cross-breeding and stable mutation evolution?

Where do you draw the line, what is a species anyway? Donkeys and horses?

So to set a high bar I said "mammalian species" level evolution. It is NOT hard science. It's a working theory, and works well enough -- but it ain't hard science.

786 posted on 01/31/2005 2:36:10 AM PST by bvw
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