Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

hysterical Darwinites panic
crosswalk ^ | 2004 | creationist

Posted on 01/28/2005 4:28:41 PM PST by metacognative

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 521-540541-560561-580 ... 2,281-2,297 next last
To: Ichneumon
Just a nit-pick here: the pie charts on the resting-places of the moths re tree trunks have rather small sample sizes. What are the error bars on each area of the chart? ;-)

Full Disclosure: I only care whether moths eat my wife's sweaters. Otherwise not interested in this particular issue...

541 posted on 01/30/2005 7:35:50 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 532 | View Replies]

To: Ichneumon
From your link: "While some pictures are staged many are not."
542 posted on 01/30/2005 7:43:33 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 519 | View Replies]

To: Ichneumon
[Thunderous applause!]

I too have some extra time this morning. Meet the Press has John Kerry on. Incredible! This is the most momentous day in the Bush presidency, and they put on that clown.

543 posted on 01/30/2005 7:46:34 AM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 525 | View Replies]

To: tallhappy

"Spam" ? More like "facts".


544 posted on 01/30/2005 7:47:25 AM PST by RightWingAtheist (Marxism-the creationism of the left)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 501 | View Replies]

To: Ichneumon
I'd like to think that not all anti-evolutionists are such classic examples of "there are none so blind as he who will not see", but that's not been my experience with them.

How could your experience be otherwise? What you've described is the very essence of creationism.

545 posted on 01/30/2005 7:57:43 AM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 538 | View Replies]

To: Ichneumon

OK, I've got a little more time [and patience].
What is your best evidence for darwin's 'theory'?
Please, use your own words if you can.


546 posted on 01/30/2005 8:02:59 AM PST by metacognative (follow the gravy...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 538 | View Replies]

To: Ichneumon
Journal: "Genetic Programming and Evolvable Machines"

Probably the grandaddy of all "evolving code" projects: Tierra

Modern "evolving code" project: Avida

Just occurred to me.

If you tweaked an "evolving code" project, so that instead of random mutations to each copy of the code, the codes used genetic algorithms as the tool for modification, propagation, then...

if you ran across a bug you could really, truthfully say

"this f*cking code isn't working!"

BTW what do they do to debug the code, to make sure the parameters / values chosen for mutation rates, etc. are actually being followed?

Cheers!

547 posted on 01/30/2005 8:04:15 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 503 | View Replies]

To: PatrickHenry

Well, P.H. at least we agree on politics. Great Day for freedom


548 posted on 01/30/2005 8:06:18 AM PST by metacognative (follow the gravy...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 543 | View Replies]

To: grey_whiskers

Throw a little ammonia and electric sparks in that computer. Maybe it will spring to life.


549 posted on 01/30/2005 8:08:17 AM PST by metacognative (follow the gravy...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 547 | View Replies]

To: metacognative
Are you referring to Jonathan Wells, the Moonie?

Although there may be members of the Unification Church who do not believe Reverend Moon to be the second coming of Christ, I think it is fair to say that such people must be a small minority; indeed, it is difficult to imagine anyone persevering in the rigorous life of a Unificationist without believing that Sun Myung Moon is to our generation what Jesus was to his.

550 posted on 01/30/2005 8:41:54 AM PST by js1138
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 528 | View Replies]

To: Ichneumon
For someone able to to present yourself as understanding and able to explain a tandem mass spectrum, I find it very strange that you have such an obsession over evolutionary theory and fixation on others who might not believe exactly as you do.

Do you consider psychology a science?

551 posted on 01/30/2005 9:06:01 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 515 | View Replies]

To: Ichneumon; Aquinasfan
Because scientists who advocate evolutionary theories have perpetuated hoaxes over many decades.

Oh really? I can think of *one* in the past 140 years

The problem I see is a disingenuousness based upon a true believer mentality.

Ontogeny recapitulates ontogeny, lamarkism, the black and white moths.

Evolutionary theory is filled with historical mistakes.

Early on particle physics had its share of scientists who were wrong, presented artifact etc...

If it had stayed at that level then people would be right to be skeptical of that discipline.

Only the most fervent faithful or person who does not understand the the nature of physical science would equate evolutionary theory as it has been presented and exists today with the hard and mathematically rigourous physical sciences of quantum mechanics.

Right now how many genomes are sequenced?

552 posted on 01/30/2005 9:15:28 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 519 | View Replies]

To: Ichneumon
No one makes that argument,

Actually, that is essentially exactly what is said. Richard Dawkins as the prime example.

I do not understand your need for the disingenuousness, defensiveness or intellectual honesty you put forth.

553 posted on 01/30/2005 9:19:14 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 506 | View Replies]

To: RightWingAtheist
"Spam" ? More like "facts".

Not mutually exclusive.

Still, I'd suggest you don't know what either facts or spam are from that response.

554 posted on 01/30/2005 9:22:45 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 544 | View Replies]

To: Ichneumon
"overwhelmingly huge, and beyond their level of knowledge"

Are you saying YOU have no idea, no comprehension, of what you post?

555 posted on 01/30/2005 9:32:14 AM PST by bvw
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 444 | View Replies]

To: general_re
Man, I'm a full professor at Condescension U.

Yes, but are you tenured yet?

;-)

556 posted on 01/30/2005 10:20:41 AM PST by longshadow
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 475 | View Replies]

Comment #557 Removed by Moderator

To: tallhappy; Ichneumon
I do not understand your need for the...intellectual honesty you put forth.

Priceless.

558 posted on 01/30/2005 10:32:33 AM PST by general_re (How come so many of the VKs have been here six months or less?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 553 | View Replies]

To: grey_whiskers
Have you tried Google, or are you (possibly too subtly) hinting at non-Euclidean geometry? Cheers!

It was not a subtle hint. I had already told him about non-Euclidean geometry and he still came back with the question without specifying.

559 posted on 01/30/2005 10:34:45 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 483 | View Replies]

To: Ichneumon
You clearly don't have a very good grasp of what would constitute "proof" or "disproof". Don't quit your day job.

I don't have a day job I'm retired.

As for your vocation I hope it's not in the scientific field, because it seems you are like most of the mainstream established ones who don't know the difference between a theory and fact.

They claim that Christians are idiots and bigots when there is no more bigoted, or idiotic group on the face of the earth than those who set entrenched in the hollowed halls the scientific community when one of their pet theories is challenged.

They are supposed to be open to new ideas and thought and seekers of truth and facts but when it comes to legitimate challenges to evolution they slam the doors to their minds and seek to ridicule and destroy any and all who threaten.

Like the young scientist with a family at the Smithsonian who has had his office taken away and had career targeted from the sanctimonious scientific bigots simply for a comment questioning this theory.

They take a theory which is nothing more than an opinion with some fancy Ph d's or H2o4's tacked on the guy who uttered it and promote it as scientific established fact.

Then when it might be proved wrong all those who feel threatened because they have hung their ego, career, reputation,personal beliefs and paycheck on it immediately form a lynch mob.

You say Bush won because he was "lucky".

Well if that the case next time we can all just stay home because it's the "lucky" one who is going to win anyway.

Then again that's not very scientific.

I say he won because he had a good campaign strategy,had lot of intelligent people working hard for him making the proper decisions and praying for him.

You know ID.

560 posted on 01/30/2005 10:43:57 AM PST by mississippi red-neck
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 505 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 521-540541-560561-580 ... 2,281-2,297 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson