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crosswalk ^ | 2004 | creationist

Posted on 01/28/2005 4:28:41 PM PST by metacognative

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To: WildTurkey
...ID allows for space aliens ...

Does "E" do this??

1,521 posted on 02/02/2005 11:58:06 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: WildTurkey

I guess NO one buys "E" material......


1,522 posted on 02/02/2005 11:58:52 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: WildTurkey
Algebraically substitute "HT" for "HH", since the faces are by design equally likely to occur. Use last result.
1,523 posted on 02/02/2005 12:00:33 PM PST by bvw
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To: tortoise

I'm glad that FINALLY someone has explained it!


1,524 posted on 02/02/2005 12:01:02 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie
There is ALWAYS an "E" solution, isn't there!?

Pretty much, yeah. Reality by definition contains its own 'solution' whether you know it or not.

1,525 posted on 02/02/2005 12:01:19 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: bvw

I think that means you agree that any sequence is as likely to occur as any other sequence, even the sequence I just tossed had that same probability, right?


1,526 posted on 02/02/2005 12:04:59 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: bvw

Zeno's paradox hasn't anything to do with this.


1,527 posted on 02/02/2005 12:08:37 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: WildHorseCrash

Since NO 'true' Evo will touch the third rail, why do we NOT know where all of this 'first life' came from anyway??

That's a HELL of a lot of biomass; of some kind or another.

It just keeps getting re-cycled.


1,528 posted on 02/02/2005 12:08:58 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: WildTurkey

Dang!

I didn't know that I assumed #2.


1,529 posted on 02/02/2005 12:10:45 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: bvw

HMMmmm....


I've never SEEN one of these niches that "E's" talk about.

Where are they hiding?


1,530 posted on 02/02/2005 12:12:28 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: bvw

But in a single string, what is the probablity of getting a HH before a TT or a HT or a TH? (It's been answered on one of these threads already; no fair peeking.)


1,531 posted on 02/02/2005 12:12:54 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: general_re

(Think KUDZU vine


1,532 posted on 02/02/2005 12:13:27 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: grey_whiskers

Didn't Larson do this already??


1,533 posted on 02/02/2005 12:14:30 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie

We are not ignoring you. Just waiting for you to catch up.


1,534 posted on 02/02/2005 12:14:48 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: js1138

We used to be able to, but I think that has been removed from FR.


1,535 posted on 02/02/2005 12:15:58 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie

If you mean abiogenesis (or whatever the 'first cause') I can tell you that the reason I don't 'touch' it is because I don't find it of any great practical importance. Evolution is profoundly crucial to the advancement of modern science and the improvement of humanity; the initial origin of life borders on a metaphysical question of little relevancy at least at this juncture.

From a practical standpoint, defining the origin of life may have some tangential importance in terms of theology, but either possible answer really tells you very little of value in the grand scheme of things (though many would pretend it does). The practical elements of theology may far more readily be addressed in other contexts, assuming that's the desired inquiry.

BTW, the biomass does not merely get 'recycled' from some original reservoir established at the dawn of life. If that's what you're implying, then that's a ridiculous statement. The organic biomass is continually being synthesized at various base levels of the ecological hierarchy.


1,536 posted on 02/02/2005 12:21:02 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: bvw

Rigged? Maybe, but VERY possible!


1,125,899,906,842,620 to 1 for 50 in a row.


Now then...

...what's the odds that the next 'mutation' (of ANY species) will be 'advantageous'?


1,537 posted on 02/02/2005 12:21:19 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
To summarize the obvious, in a series of coin tosses:
(1) the chance of getting one completely specific string involves a factorial computation;
(2) the chance of getting any string at all is 100%; and
(3) at any step along the way, the odds of getting H or T is 50%.
And, to stroke myself one more time, misunderstanding item (3) to involve item (1) above involves my "fallacy of incorporating the continuum."
1,538 posted on 02/02/2005 12:21:51 PM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: WildTurkey

You're ignoring the apriori assumtion. That the coin and the toss are not rigged.


1,539 posted on 02/02/2005 12:23:50 PM PST by bvw
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To: WildTurkey
So you are claiming there is not scientific explanation for the origin of life?

Why are Christians on this board always the ones to bear false witness ...

Exactly how can a question be false witness?

1,540 posted on 02/02/2005 12:24:53 PM PST by Last Visible Dog
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