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Gov. Bush Wants To Use Genetic Testing To ID Newborn's Fathers
http://www.nbc6.net/news/4125445/detail.html ^ | 24 January 2004

Posted on 01/28/2005 1:32:24 PM PST by Lorianne

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- The Bush administration in Tallahassee wants to launch a new crackdown on "deadbeat dads."

Gov. Jeb Bush said there are too many kids born to single mothers, WESH NewsChannel 2 reported.

Many of the fathers are never identified, so they can never be forced to pay child support.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbc6.net ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: abortion; childsupport; family; fathers; paternity; privacy
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To: antiRepublicrat
I've read cases where the non-father was required to continue paying support.

Well I know men whose wives leave (while the couple is separated) and returns pregnant or with a baby and the man decide to keep the wife and baby.

For the cases that are not like that are not like that ?????????

I'd say leave the country. You are bound to find a life and fall in love in the UK, Spain or Italy.
21 posted on 01/28/2005 2:06:23 PM PST by Idisarthur
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To: Idisarthur
Women do pursue these issues, however they get no assistance from the state UNLESS they are on welfare drawing money from the state....then the state gets involved (at least that is my understanding in California & WA). I know of one male that owns 4 houses and is self employed, he incorporated his business and draws $500 a month to live on....so he is only required to pay $250 a month to his ex-wife (they have 5 kids and he had an affair and left her). BUT you have to have money in order to get legal help with these types of issues.
22 posted on 01/28/2005 2:08:55 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

I have always wondered why they don't pursue child abuse charges against men over 18 who get young girls pregnant. This is all too common, and many of these guys father multiple children with young girls. No one seems to care....
sundero


23 posted on 01/28/2005 2:28:28 PM PST by brytlea
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To: Lorianne
This is not necessary to ID the father in most cases.

More important, why should a man not married to a woman be required to pay for her children.

Solution. He is nothing. No rights and no obligations.

24 posted on 01/28/2005 2:32:49 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Esther Ruth
The world has gone quite crazy, when this is what the "good guys" come up with as solutions....

Exactly.

25 posted on 01/28/2005 2:33:46 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: tallhappy

Because it is not "her child", it is his child too. And he is 50% responsible.


26 posted on 01/28/2005 2:34:29 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: CurlyDave

A child can be adopted even if the named bio dad cannot be found.

You must perform a "diligent search" and then post notice. It's more burdensome but can be done.

At least in Florida.


27 posted on 01/28/2005 2:35:20 PM PST by GatorGirl (Prayers for our brave military transporting the ballots and protecting the Iraqi voters...)
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To: tallhappy

You've GOT to be kidding!


28 posted on 01/28/2005 2:36:01 PM PST by GatorGirl (Prayers for our brave military transporting the ballots and protecting the Iraqi voters...)
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To: CurlyDave
There were several good reasons. He was completely irresponsible and should not be making decisions in his child's life.

Your entire post is absolutely correct.

These males should not be accorded any rights or recognition at all.

The child is not theirs in any way.

29 posted on 01/28/2005 2:36:15 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Lorianne
Because it is not "her child", it is his child too. And he is 50% responsible.

Your comment is a non-sequitar.

How is it his child?

It is not.

He should have no rights at all.

THis is a serious issue and your view is the exact wrong and damagin one, but alas it is the major liberal mainstream view that has harmed our society so much in the past 3 decades.

30 posted on 01/28/2005 2:39:04 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Idisarthur

Plenty of the women have no idea which of their many one-nighters is the dad. In some cases they probably can't even recall a complete list of the possibilities, or the last names of many of the possibilities.


31 posted on 01/28/2005 2:39:26 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GatorGirl
You've GOT to be kidding!

Why do you say that?

I am 100% serious and my approach is the only actual answer or solution.

32 posted on 01/28/2005 2:39:54 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Lorianne

Read post 20 by curlydave and you might begin to understand.


33 posted on 01/28/2005 2:41:01 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: lilylangtree

Easy way to build a DNA database too. I'd like to see all the politicians and cops volunteer first though.


34 posted on 01/28/2005 2:41:10 PM PST by dljordan
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To: tallhappy

So in your opinion, men can just go around and sow their seed and leave the women, (and, more importantly, the taxpayers) to deal with the problem?

Granted, I don't advocate extramarital sex, and the lack thereof would go a long way to solve this problem, but we have to deal with reality.

Your solution would just make the problem worse!!


35 posted on 01/28/2005 2:46:04 PM PST by GatorGirl (Prayers for our brave military transporting the ballots and protecting the Iraqi voters...)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

Fifteen years ago, while I was pregnant, I went to the DA's office to open a child support case. I was told to go get welfare so the case would get priority over non-welfare cases.


36 posted on 01/28/2005 2:56:34 PM PST by CaliGirl-R
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To: GatorGirl
Your comments indicate you think women have no responsibility or ability to make decisions.

The reality is these males are no more than sperm donors, will not be able to provide support anyhow, the welfare support for the women neither will be done away with.

Why provide more rights to these males? They deserve none.

37 posted on 01/28/2005 2:57:00 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: tallhappy

Logic and biology.

The child is a product of the sexual liason of TWO people. Both people are responsible for the child existing, ergo both are obligated to support and raise the child.

Personal responsibility. Heard of it?


38 posted on 01/28/2005 3:00:58 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: tallhappy

Your comments indicate you think men have no responsibility or ability to make decisions!!!

I advocate responsibility for BOTH parents, who are equally responsible for bringing the child into the world.

Because we're dealing here with parents who don't live together, one has to provide the roof over the child's head and all that goes with it, the other one should contribute financially to the provision of these things to the child.

If the child is living with dad, mom should contribute as well. No sexism here!


39 posted on 01/28/2005 3:02:12 PM PST by GatorGirl (Prayers for our brave military transporting the ballots and protecting the Iraqi voters...)
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To: CurlyDave

Maybe in a few cases but the exception rather than the rule by a long shot


40 posted on 01/28/2005 3:11:05 PM PST by traderrob6
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