Poll: Wash. Voters Want a Revote

Newsmax ^ | 1/28/05

[vox_freedom]

So, 53% want a revote; 35% don't want one; and 12% are undecided.
That is not only a plurality but a very good MAJORITY!
Ms. Fraudoire must be quite upset about the lack of a mandate for her far left liberal agenda.
Come on Chelan County Superior Court!
Come on Washington State Supremes!
WE WANT A REVOTE!!!!!

[Christian4Bush]

Yea, be very proud of the Dem. Party people. This is just the spring board for future elections.

And Florida 2000 was the springboard for this...(thanks Al)

[eureka!]

a51- Here's a good article on the SecState of WA siding with Rossi that probably warrants its own post (I have never done an article post and don't have the time right now to learn): http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002163149_revote28m.html

[drc43]

"The Washington state constitution specifically says that recalls can only be done for malfeasance."

Assuming office under fraudulent circumstance should be covered here.

[CyberAnt]

According to Post #20 - it will work - since the disputed ballots more than cover the amount of the dem win.

I suggest you move East - as I live in CA - and we have accomplished a recall.

[CyberAnt]

And .. the number of votes in question DOES EXCEED THE MARGIN OF VICTORY - so a RECALL is legal.

[Arrowhead1952]

You may want to look at this.

[Echo Talon]

The really need to have a revote.

[Danae]

REVOTE!

What has happened in Washington State should SHAME the Democratic Party. In the Poll they could not even keep their registered Democrat majority! Even Dem VOTERS don't believe this was a Legit Election!!! Man, if that isn't something that should be SHOVED down Fraudouire's throat along with the DNC and John Kerry whose campaign funds made the fraud (the third and fradulent recount) even POSSIBLE, then nothing is!!!

[Hostage]

I think the courts can nullify the election, set it aside. But they likely cannot order a 'revote', that would be for the legislature to decide.

Should the courts set aside the governor's election and should the democrat controlled legislature fail to authorize a revote, they would be risking their seats to voter anget in the next election.

But the state supreme court is mostly democrat. They will not support a set aside. The 9th district will likely turn down a hearing. The US Supreme Court may hear the case if it addresses Bush vs. Gore equal protection issues. But the USSC cannot order a revote as well, only nullify the existing vote.

[Russ_in_NC]

I disagree. You are correct in saying that after the ruling by the lower court it's going to the SSCOW (no matter what ruling is handed down) but just like that appeal, it will be appealed to the 9th circuit no matter what the SSCOW rules by whatever party loses. That court, honorable people all - yea right - will rule for the Dem's/lib's just as they have 95% of the time (that's why they are the most overturned court in the land by a 9:1 margin). Bitten by the Fl. 2000 race, the SCOUS will bow out because they are tired of being belittled by the press every time they rule on the side of the rule of law.

[henkster]

Voter Anger? Next election?

Yes, I would remember something like this. Yes, I'd be plenty PO'd. Unfortunately, I don't credit my fellow man with the same gift of memory.

Four years is an eon in our society. No one will care four years from now. Once Fraudoire furor is over, this will have no impact on the next election. State legislators are pretty anonymous once they get to the Statehouse. I'd bet this issue won't cost a single seat in the next elections.

The best bet is that Fraudoire will not be able to govern effectively, which MIGHT get her tossed from office.

[Hank Rearden]

If this honest judge says that there was fraud and there needs to be a new election, the Dem's will just appeal to the 9th circuit, they'll win there and the SCOUS will refuse to hear the case. Election over. period.

IIRC, the judge hearing the case has heard a similar (county?) case, ordered a revote, and was upheld by the State Supremes.

I'm sure a more-attentive WA FReeper will correct me if I got it wrong.

[Wiseghy]

Yes, but didn't California's constitution say something similar about malfeasance or some such for a recall? Yet, the recall still worked here.

On the other hand...Rossi must walk a fine political line. He can't look embittered, or risk being labled a sore loser in popular opinion. Yet he must maintain his momentum with his supporters. Very difficult test of his leadership already, hopefully the populace will reward him for it.

[Russ_in_NC]

I never said you were wrong as far as the courts of Washington go. I said you were wrong as far as the ninth circuit goes. From what i have read, the judges in Washington tend to rule for the law and not make it up or ignor it. The 9th circuit on the other hand, live in a fantasy land.

You said they would refuse to hear the case, I believe you are wrong. I believe they will hear the case and rule with the Dem's (unless the Dem's win in the lower courts, then they will refuse to hear the case - which is the same as ruling for the Dem's)

[Purple GOPer]

If (and I really hope this does not happen) the courts rule that the election is valid then taking the governorship is not an illegal act.

As I said before, I don't think a recall would work, it would need more than 700,000 signatures of registered voters, and from what I have read state law appears to bar a simultaneous new election for the office, which is very different from California.

[sport]

The Republicans need to start a recall petition.

[CyberAnt]

Well .. if the laws don't allow it - they don't allow it. Too bad .. I hate to see the dems get away with SUCH BLATANT FRAUD.

[hunter112]

As has been pointed out, the WA recall laws don't allow a possibility of it at this time, but WA does have the initiative process. Changing the law to allow recall for broader purposes might just be what is called for here.

The anger at Gregoire must be harnessed to do something effective, or it will surely dissipate. A voter-sponsored initiative will go a long way to keeping that anger simmering. If an initiative can be readied for the 2006 ballot, it would put a lot of Rats on the spot.

[CyberAnt]

"The anger at Gregoire must be harnessed to do something effective, or it will surely dissipate"

You make a good point. I believe our recall had 2 effective elements - a person willing to put some money into the pot - Darrell Issa put in $1 million. We also had another person who spearheaded the organization. He also got the help of a radio station personality.

It can be done. And .. if you can change the law by 2006 - it would put the dems on notice that their FRAUD did not go unnoticed and they won't be able to get away with it again. And .. you have the general shift to the right happening in WA as well .. which could only help your cause. I wish you all well .. it's hard work - but winning that battle will be so satisfying.