Tennis champion supports PETA campaign (Martina Navratilova comes out against mulesing)

ABC News Radio. ^ | Friday, 28/01/2005

[Nataku X]

All excellent points, of course, and I don't disagree with you--mostly saying that I felt sorry for kitty. I grew up raising poultry and we had to do some nasty things... When you have a few pets... you can give your heart out to them... but if you care for too many pets, you start seeing them as a commodity (which is why I dropped my fish-breeding hobby). It's only natural that vets and to a certain extent doctors seem rough and uncaring from our eyes... only the most resolute person could have the same amount of empathy for 200 clients as for 1 person.

[Nataku X]

Unnngh.. just realized that you were a vet... sorry!

[dmz]

My mom is bipolar. It's a mental illness. She has plenty of worthwhile opinions. Some others, not so much. I'm pretty sure I could trust her opinion about those spouting off as you have.

[cyborg]

thanks for the informative post... I'm sure the whole point is to get people to stop using sheep products

[vetvetdoug]

I also considered the following; if PETA and Martina baby really didn't like the procedure, they could make a change by offering to the public wool that was produced from non-mulesing animals or animals that had the procedure by using anesthesia. They need to quit bitching about the stuff and put their money where their mouths are. I would bet when they go bankrupt with their off center logic, they would think different. They won't do this because they are elite hypocrites.

[cyborg]

The cost of the wool would be prohibitive. Libs like to spend other people's money.

[John O]

My mom is bipolar. It's a mental illness

excellent example of an apples to oranges comparison. Bipolar people tend to be mostly normal with occasional swings to manic or depressive. Length and frequency of swings is variable from person to person, and even in the same person due to external circumstances. In their lucid moments they are perfectly normal and trustworthy.

Similarly, an alcoholic who has been sober for a while (say a 12 month AA member) is probably pretty trustworthy but a drunk alcoholic isn't.

SADs however are SAD all the time, the disease colors every facet of their lives until they decide to get well. They are like alcoholics who never dry out. Therefore their opinions cannot be trusted.

[dmz]

My thanks for your opinions dressed as facts.

[John O]

You've obviously never taken the time to read the Homosexual agenda list of links have you?

Everything I stated is supported in the database. SAD is a particularly well understood mental disease if you take the time to read the studies and open your mind to the fact that maybe, just maybe, they really aren't born that way.

[John O]

addendum. My wide is also bi-polar. She has her highs and her lows and her opinion while in a high or a low is not trustworthy. Most of the time she's perfectly normal and sound in her reasoning and opinions.

My brother is afflicted with SAD and he will turn back flips to justify his lifestyle as normal even when all the dtata is against him. His obsession with his lifestyle colors every facte of his life.

So I have experiential and academic infornmation from each side of post 67. No opinions. Just facts

[gocats]

When I was a kid I had a job one summer neutering pigs. You dont use anstiseptic. Let me just say it was the worst job I've ever had. I neutered over 1000 pigs.

[WV Mountain Mama]

My dad used rubber bands on his bulls this past year to neuter them. It is more painful for the guys (my husband) trying to wrestle them to the ground. My dad then suggested that they use the headlock to hold the bulls. My husband thinks my dad is still laughing at him. LOL!

[Darnright]

>Let me just say it was the worst job I've ever had. I neutered over 1000 pigs.<

I maintain the worst job I've ever had was holding the screaming pigs so they could be neutered. I will never forget watching the pig lice, and praying the nasty looking things didn't wander off the piglet and onto me.

[finnigan2]

I was once told by someone in the meat packing business that it has been common practice to castrate male hogs, without anesthetic, when they are young. The reason given was that the male hormone, present in uncastrated hogs, gave the meat an unpleasant taste and couldn't be marketed.
If this story is true, PETA will soon be going after this practice, once they've forced the sheep industry to change their practice and after that, it will be on to cattle branding.