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Quarry victim's son wants body removed politely told to go home
Bangor News ^ | January 22, 2005

Posted on 01/28/2005 8:36:41 AM PST by robowombat

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To: mudblood
"it seems that the roads he paid taxes for resulted in her death"

OK personal rant here... ROADS DON'T CAUSE DEATHS, DRIVERS CAUSE DEATHS

41 posted on 01/28/2005 9:41:16 AM PST by SCALEMAN (Super Cards/Rams Fan)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

You expect us to buy that story? :D


42 posted on 01/28/2005 9:45:10 AM PST by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi!)
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To: Popman
Still the guy that did it was one brave guy.

And properly paid for risking his life,

as he should be

43 posted on 01/28/2005 9:47:43 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Getsmart64
Yes, and notice this quote:
"The only thing I loved in the world was my mother and she's gone."

I can understand wanting to bury her with respect and honor, but obsessive compulsive behavior leading to the death of another is not the right method to dignify her.

44 posted on 01/28/2005 9:51:21 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: JFK_Lib
Man, it sounds like the city is so worried about getting sued for another accident injuring someone while recovering the body that they are acting fairly inhumane toward the family of the victim.

The city should be worried about getting sued. The family has already hired an accident reconstruction expert and is having an autopsy done (probably to prove that she was still alive when she plunged through the ice and therefore suffered horribly).

Don't get me wrong, from facts as presented in this story, the town (or whatever entity had responsibility for maintaining the road) is probably guilty and should be sued and pay for this wrongful death.

45 posted on 01/28/2005 10:01:40 AM PST by Martin Tell (Red States Rule)
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To: robowombat
Roads are poor in Maine, narrow with no sholders...

Most Maine roads have standard width lanes and wider shoulders than similar roads in other New England states. The paving does tend to be pretty poor, though.

46 posted on 01/28/2005 10:12:41 AM PST by Grut
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To: robowombat
Man, just looking at the sat pictures, that's a nasty road.


47 posted on 01/28/2005 10:38:12 AM PST by Malsua
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To: SCALEMAN

"OK personal rant here"

If the road hangs of a ledge, and the ledge collapses, you could also blame the ledge. But not the road...never the road.


48 posted on 01/28/2005 11:16:52 AM PST by mudblood
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To: Martin Tell
"from facts as presented in this story, the town (or whatever entity had responsibility for maintaining the road) is probably guilty and should be sued and pay for this wrongful death."

So apparently she had no responsibllity to adjust her driving for the conditions of the road? As I read it, she lost control and went through a wall and then into the quarry. Maybe I'm wrong here, but people are responsible for their own actions. If the implication is that the 'entity' should have cleaned the roadway then I guess that every accident that happens in inclement weather will bring about a lawsuit against the government for not cleaning the roads.

49 posted on 01/28/2005 11:45:36 AM PST by SCALEMAN (Super Cards/Rams Fan)
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To: mudblood
"If the road hangs of a ledge, and the ledge collapses, you could also blame the ledge.

I saw nothing in the article that indicated that the road collapsed. She actually went through a wall and then into the quarry. Sorry about the rant, there are cases where the 'government entity' may be at fault, but we all know that 99.99% of vehicle accidents are caused by poor driving.

50 posted on 01/28/2005 11:48:49 AM PST by SCALEMAN (Super Cards/Rams Fan)
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To: SCALEMAN
It's not road clearing that I think will get the city held liable here.

From the story (again, I must emphasize that my comments are based on what's in the story), it sounds like this is a very dangerous road, the city knew of this danger, and did nothing to correct it.

I agree that individual drivers have responsibility for their actions. If the deceased drove recklessly or otherwise behaved negligently, that should be a factor in judging legal responsibility.

Entities, like this city, should also be held responsible when their actions or lack of action, causes death or injury.

51 posted on 01/28/2005 11:54:00 AM PST by Martin Tell (Red States Rule)
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To: SCALEMAN

"She actually went through a wall and then into the quarry."

Yeah, I know - I should have indicated that in some way in my post but I was taken up with my own cleverness (heh). Ultimately I agree with you - there's way too much blaming the government in this country. Too much expecting the government to fix things. Its a side-effect of a democracy - people vote for those who will give them things. Which is weird because they give up their money to get those things. So lets revise it: insecure people vote for people who will take their money and spend it for them. Sounds more accurate, no? YOu know, I think I got off on a rant there! :)


52 posted on 01/28/2005 11:54:20 AM PST by mudblood
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To: mudblood

Actually my rant was caused by my previous Representative Dickey Gephardt. Every time he was up for re-election, he would come to the district for a photo op in front of a sign on State Hy 21. There is a large billboard set up and calls it 'Blood Alley' and lists the fatalities on the road. He would always stand with the mayor of one of the towns on Rt 21, whose wife died in a single car accident there. What they never mention is that she had been drinking. Apparently Rt. 21 isn't straight enough for drunk drivers.


53 posted on 01/28/2005 12:01:55 PM PST by SCALEMAN (Super Cards/Rams Fan)
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To: robowombat

With the tens of billions the Feds spend on pork barrel nonsense every year, you'd think they could come up with some transportation dollars to improve/fix/reroute exceedingly dangerous roads like these.


54 posted on 01/28/2005 12:40:36 PM PST by jrp
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To: Getsmart64

Maybe the cat was dear to her. People can get very close to their pets.


55 posted on 01/28/2005 1:08:46 PM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal-Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: ClearCase_guy

What am I missing? If the car skidded off the road, went over a cliff, into a quarry, and sank in 105 feet of water -- why is debris scattered in the road?


When a car is upsidedown skidding over a precipice it leaves debris.


56 posted on 01/28/2005 5:47:49 PM PST by mlmr (The Majority of the Murders Committed Worldwide have been Committed by Leftist Governments..........)
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To: The KG9 Kid

"You expect us to buy that story? :D"

Mox nix to me, it is the truth. You likely never heard of "Giant UDT Duckfeet", "addict spear guns and homemade power heads" or "The Skin Diver" magazine (was originally an outlaw publication, changed their name a bit, then trended PC & yuppie before going under a few years ago) from those days either? Being sport divers (free diving spearfisher types) the only time we ever used tanks and regulators was when ice diving or for salvage work.


57 posted on 01/29/2005 8:25:29 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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