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1 posted on 01/28/2005 7:29:42 AM PST by presidio9
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38 posted on 01/28/2005 8:03:21 AM PST by Jhensy
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Unjustified by some scientists

I spent 10 years playing at a number of NASA centers, including Lewis and Langley, which are research centers.

Almost all of the NASA and contractor scientists that ever spoke to me about "global warming" though it was a joke.
39 posted on 01/28/2005 8:03:43 AM PST by Beckwith (Barbara Boxer is the Wicked Witch of the West . . .)
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Wow, this is just like the reaction the press had to "The Day After Tomorrow", the sci-fi disaster flick released last summer. NOT


In the film global warming caused NYC to flood then freeze solid in a few short hours.

THe Lefties embraced the film, the media gave it a wink and a nod and Algore and the MoveOnMorons all showed up at the premiere.


40 posted on 01/28/2005 8:04:46 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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The overwhelming majority of climate scientists say the world is warming, mainly because of emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases.

WRONG!

43 posted on 01/28/2005 8:11:38 AM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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Sixteen of 18 top U.S. climate scientists interviewed by Knight Ridder, however, said the Harvard-trained author is bending scientific data and distorting research.

Bending scientific data. Ha ha ha. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. It should have been written this way:

Sixteen of 18 top U.S. climate scientists WHOSE CAREERS AND BUCKS FROM THE GOVERNMENT DEPEND ON PROMOTING THE GLOBAL WARMING SCARE STORY interviewed by Knight Ridder, however, said the Harvard-trained author is bending scientific data and distorting research.
47 posted on 01/28/2005 8:29:38 AM PST by aruanan
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And the world temperatures rose to such heights, long before our time, that the high deserts in places like Arizona were under water. History has a way of repeating itself-thats why the study of history is important.

Remembering history is very important to us today, as scientists with a selfish agenda, tell us that today's aleged global warming is our fault and we can stop it by merely submitting to their demands that we surrender our souls to their will, like submissive zombies.

The only thing we have to fear is the insanity induced mass hysteria, invented by diabolical scientists with an evil and selfish agenda.



48 posted on 01/28/2005 8:30:53 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Shut up Kerry! Your ignorance is showing.)
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See Fred Singer's review of the book:

While constructed as a novel, it is also a guide to environmental issues and its advocates, principally the problem of climate change. It carries a message about Global Warming and will certainly have an important impact on the ongoing policy debate.

The message conveyed is two-fold:

**The scientific evidence does not support Global Warming fears -- or even the occurrence of a significant warming trend.

**The environmental movement - and its well-paid leadership - has jumped on the GW bandwagon because that's where the money is. The book mirrors real-life environmental activists, says Ronald Bailey, Reason magazine's science correspondent, in his book review for the Wall Street Journal (Dec. 10, 2004).
49 posted on 01/28/2005 8:32:41 AM PST by aruanan
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bttttttttt


53 posted on 01/28/2005 9:05:04 AM PST by dennisw (Pryce-Jones: Arab culture is steeped in conspiracy theories, half truths, and nursery rhyme politics)
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A great lecture by Crichton on junk science.
55 posted on 01/28/2005 9:16:30 AM PST by robomurph
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I need to pick this up at the library.

One thing most climate scientist have in common is the need to get grants to do the research. People don't want to give you money if you say "You know, man can't control the weather".
57 posted on 01/28/2005 10:11:11 AM PST by redgolum
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Sixteen of 18 top U.S. climate scientists interviewed by Knight Ridder, however

Defined as "top" climate scientists according to who and using what criteria?

The overwhelming majority of climate scientists say the world is warming, mainly because of emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases.
The overwhelming majority? I can't possibly remember all the documented counterarguments to this megalomaniac, but the figure of 15,000 sticks in my mind.

And...

If these "top" scientists understand the mechanics of global warming so well, why do their models, using the world's fastest and most sophisticated computers still are unable to "predict" weather that has already happened?

59 posted on 01/28/2005 11:23:50 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen, ignorance and stupidity.)
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Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
64 posted on 01/28/2005 10:56:26 PM PST by farmfriend ( Congratulations. You are everything we've come to expect from years of government training.)
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"On Friday, Crichton hits Washington, speaking to the neo-conservative American Enterprise Institute..."

Heeeeeeeeeeere's an unbiased article. /s

72 posted on 01/29/2005 6:02:29 AM PST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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“Wrong, wrong, wrong," said Martin Hoffert, a professor of physics at New York University. “The best face I can put on this is that he doesn’t know what he’s doing. The worst is that he’s intentionally deceiving people as he accuses environmentalists (of doing) in ‘State of Fear.’ "

Hmmm, seems pretty clear cut to me:

"On the one hand, as scientists we are ethically bound to the scientific method, in effect promising to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but - which means that we must include all the doubts, the caveats, the ifs, ands, and buts. On the other hand, we are not just scientists but human beings as well. And like most people we'd like to see the world a better place, which in this context translates into our working to reduce the risk of potentially disastrous climatic change. To do that we need to get some broadbased support, to capture the public's imagination. That, of course, entails getting loads of media coverage. So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we might have. This 'double ethical bind' we frequently find ourselves in cannot be solved by any formula. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest. I hope that means being both." (Steven Schneider, Quoted in Discover, pp. 45-48, Oct. 1989; see also (Dixy Lee Ray in 'Trashing the Planet', 1990) and (American Physical Society, APS News August/September 1996).

 

"Scientists who want to attract attention to themselves, who want to attract great funding to themselves, have to (find a) way to scare the public . . . and this you can achieve only by making things bigger and more dangerous than they really are." (Petr Chylek, Professor of Physics and Atmospheric Science, Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, commenting on reports that Greenland's glaciers are melting. Halifax Chronicle-Herald, August 22, 2001)

"A global climate treaty must be implemented even if there is no scientific evidence to back the [enhanced] greenhouse effect"
(Richard Benedict, US Conservation Foundation)

 

"The data don't matter. We're not basing our recommendations [for reductions in carbon dioxide emissions] upon the data. We're basing them upon the climate models"
(Chris Folland, UK Meteorological Office)

"The trouble with this idea is that planting trees will not lead to the societal changes we want to achieve"
--(Kyoto Delegate, 05 December 1997)

 

"Researchers pound the global-warming drum because they know there is politics and, therefore, money behind it. . . I've been critical of global warming and am persona non grata."

Dr. William Gray
(Professor of Atmospheric Sciences at Colorado State University, Fort Collins, Colorado and leading expert of hurricane prediction )
(in an interview for the Denver Rocky Mountain News, November 28, 1999)

"The climate modelers have been 'cheating' for so long, it's almost become respectable."
Richard Kerr, discussing flux adjustments in climate models in Science, 1997

"Such [flux] adjustments are necessary due to deficiencies in both the atmospheric and oceanic models, especially in their parameterizations of sub-grid-scale processes."
Description of GFDL GCM

"Instead, we believe the problem resides in the computer models and in our past assumptions that the atmosphere is so well behaved. These models just don't handle processes like clouds, water vapor, and precipitation systems well enough to accurately predict how strong global warming will be, or how it will manifest itself at different heights in the atmosphere," remarked Spencer.
Is Earth's Temperature Up or Down or Both?; Feb 6, 1997 quoting Dr. Roy Spencer


79 posted on 01/29/2005 11:02:58 AM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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FReepmail me to get on or off

Click graphic for full GW rundown

Ping me if you find one I've missed.



Very, very, very old story.
80 posted on 02/24/2007 1:06:24 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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Last year was the fourth hottest ever recorded. The five hottest years on record have all occurred since 1998. The 10 hottest years on record have all occurred since 1990. The last month to record below-average temperature was July 1985.

I suppose the only way to justify such statements is to declare that no one in the Midieval Warm Period recorded the temperatures.

85 posted on 02/24/2007 2:18:50 PM PST by JoeGar
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How would you describe what Mr. Crichton did?

Crichton describes the book as fiction.

86 posted on 02/24/2007 2:20:02 PM PST by JoeGar
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