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The Branding of a Heretic
The Wall Street Journal and Discovery Institute ^ | January 28, 2005 | David Klinghoffer

Posted on 01/28/2005 6:50:34 AM PST by Heartlander

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1 posted on 01/28/2005 6:50:34 AM PST by Heartlander
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To: Heartlander
When the British atheist philosopher Antony Flew made news this winter by declaring that he had become a deist--a believer in an unbiblical "god of the philosophers" who takes no notice of our lives--he pointed to the plausibility of ID theory.

A life long and world renowned atheist, Flew worked with some of the worlds leading professionals and came to the conclusion that it's impossible for life to have evolved from chemicals and there appears to be a higher deity in the design of life.

2 posted on 01/28/2005 6:59:17 AM PST by kipita (Rebel – the proletariat response to Aristocracy and Exploitation.)
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To: VadeRetro; Junior; longshadow; Doctor Stochastic; js1138; general_re; Right Wing Professor; ...
Ping list material?

The American Association for the Advancement of Science has a position paper on this issue: Intelligent Design and Peer Review. Excerpts:

Stephen Meyer, the author of the paper, is Director of the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture (DI/CSC), the primary institutional advocate of ID. He earned a PhD in the History and Philosophy of Science from Cambridge University. He is also University Professor of the Conceptual Foundations of Science at Palm Beach Atlantic University, a theologically conservative Christian institution.

The editor for the issue of the Proceedings in which the Meyer article appears was Richard Sternberg, Research Associate in the Department of Systematic Biology (Invertebrate Zoology) of the National Museum of Natural History, Smithsonian Institution. He is also a Fellow of the International Society for Complexity, Information, and Design (ISCID), which promotes intelligent design, and serves on the Editorial Board of the Baraminology Study Group, a creation science group. Given these associations, Dr. Sternberg would appear to be, at very least, an advocate for "intelligent design" and critical of standard peer review processes as they bear on the scientific assessment of the "intelligent design" hypothesis.

The external reviewers of the paper are unknown.


3 posted on 01/28/2005 7:23:53 AM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: Heartlander

Can't the Smithsonian just follow the historic ritual and burn him at the stake already?


4 posted on 01/28/2005 7:26:25 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Democrat Obstructionists will be Daschled!)
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To: Heartlander

What a surprise.</sarcasm>


5 posted on 01/28/2005 7:26:44 AM PST by Pietro
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To: PatrickHenry

Why not? Personally, I think it's time to see who the reviewers were....


6 posted on 01/28/2005 7:28:49 AM PST by general_re (How come so many of the VKs have been here six months or less?)
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To: general_re
Personally, I think it's time to see who the reviewers were....

Or if the reviewers were....

7 posted on 01/28/2005 8:00:00 AM PST by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: PatrickHenry
The external reviewers of the paper are unknown.

What we do know is that the reviewers disagreed with the conclusions of the paper. That might have been a red flag to a careful editor.

8 posted on 01/28/2005 8:03:41 AM PST by js1138
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To: general_re
Why not? Personally, I think it's time to see who the reviewers were....

I'll bet they turn out to be Henry Morris, Duane Gish, Michael Behe, and Ken Ham. I think that the creatards have taken over the Biological Society of Washington...

9 posted on 01/28/2005 8:10:02 AM PST by WildHorseCrash
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I subscribe to a school of biological thought often termed “process structuralism.” Process or biological structuralism is concerned with understanding the formal, generative rules underlying organic forms, and focuses on the system architectures of organisms and their interrelationships. Structuralist analysis is generally ahistorical, systems-oriented, and non-evolutionary (not anti-evolutionary). Both creationism and neo-Darwinism are, in contrast, emphatically historicist with one positing extreme polyphyly (de novo creation of species) and the other radical monophyly (common descent). Since the structuralist perspective runs somewhat perpendicular to the origins debate, creationists and evolutionists tend to see it as inimical to their positions. The truth is structuralism has little at stake in the origins issue, leaving a person like myself free to dialogue with all parties. For this reason, I frequently discourse with ultra-Darwinians, macromutationists, self-organization theorists, complexity theorists, intelligent design advocates, theistic evolutionists, and young-earth creationists without necessarily agreeing with any of their views.

Structuralism does, however, provide an important perspective on the origins debate. Structuralists' lack of commitment to an historical theory of biology allows them to explore the historical evidence more objectively. Moreover, because they focus on formal analysis, struturalists are far more open than neo-Darwinians to the powerful evidence for continuity within species (forms) and discontinuity between and among species. They also allow themselves to wonder about the cause of the amazing repetition of forms across the biological world rather than being forced by prior commitments to accept a major neo-Darwinian epicycle known as "convergent evolution."
- Dr. Richard M. v. Sternberg


Curriculum vitae (partial)

Letter from the Baraminology Study Group

10 posted on 01/28/2005 8:11:02 AM PST by Heartlander
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To: js1138
Procedures for the publication of the Meyer paper
11 posted on 01/28/2005 8:14:00 AM PST by Heartlander
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To: Heartlander

I'm glad I'm in physics. :P

We're a much more laid-back lot.


12 posted on 01/28/2005 8:17:12 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: Heartlander

This is Sternberg's version, but even so it supports my statement that the reviewers disagreed with the paper's conclusions. Normally, a paper that is published to stir up controversy would be labeled as such.

Again, the problem with ID is not that it is wrong, but that it can't be proven wrong.

If ID wants respectability, do som research that demonstrates that design is possible. Show how you can predict the effects of an allele change on the individual organism, the species and the ecosystem. After all, "cause and effect" are the mantra of ID.


13 posted on 01/28/2005 8:22:31 AM PST by js1138
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To: Heartlander
...structuralism is concerned with understanding the formal, generative rules underlying organic forms...

And Noam Chomsky focuses on generative rules in language, with equal success. Chomsky abandoned generative grammer some years ago.

If you propose that there are generative rules you need to demonstrate at least one.

14 posted on 01/28/2005 8:26:56 AM PST by js1138
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To: js1138
This is Sternberg's version, but even so it supports my statement that the reviewers disagreed with the paper's conclusions.

I followed the standard peer review process, sending the paper to four qualified scientists, three of whom agreed to review it. The reviewers' comments were provided to Dr. Meyer who made changes in the paper accordingly.

15 posted on 01/28/2005 8:28:47 AM PST by Heartlander
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To: Heartlander

Then, since there is so much controversy, and a career is allegedly being ruined, we need to know what those comments were and what changes were made as a result.


16 posted on 01/28/2005 9:11:38 AM PST by js1138
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To: WildHorseCrash
I'll bet they turn out to be Henry Morris, Duane Gish, Michael Behe, and Ken Ham.

Ah. Those must be the thousands of credentialed scientists who are, year after year, in ever-increasing numbers, flocking to the banner of ID. Known as the flockers.

17 posted on 01/28/2005 10:11:43 AM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: Heartlander
He has been penalized by the museum's Department of Zoology, his religious and political beliefs questioned.

Can you imagine what a psychologist could do with this scenario? We see the insecure antagonists bullying, exhibiting paranoia, assuming the role of thought police, and having a collective panic attack. A little further investigation might reveal thumb-sucking and bed-wetting.

18 posted on 01/28/2005 10:42:43 AM PST by Dataman
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To: PatrickHenry

Ha ha. Yup, you got it, alright.


19 posted on 01/28/2005 11:38:32 AM PST by WildHorseCrash
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To: Heartlander
Congress vests responsibility for administering the Institution in the Board of Regents:

William H. Rehnquist, Chief Justice of the United States, ex officio, Chancellor

Richard B. Cheney, Vice-President of the United States, ex officio

Thad Cochran, Senator from Mississippi

Bill Frist, Senator from Tennessee

Patrick J. Leahy, Senator from Vermont

Sam Johnson, Representative from Texas

Robert T. Matsui, Representative from California Ralph Regula, Representative from Ohio Hanna H. Gray, Professor of History and former President of the University of Chicago

Anne d’Harnoncourt, the George D. Widener Director of the Philadelphia Museum of Art and a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences

Manuel L. Ibáñez, President Emeritus and Professor Emeritus, Texas A&M University in Kingsville, Texas

Walter E. Massey, Physicist and President of Morehouse College in Atlanta Roger W. Sant, chairman emeritus and cofounder of the AES Corporation and chairman of the board of The Summit Foundation

Alan G. Spoon, managing general partner in Polaris Venture Partners, former President of The Washington Post Company

Patricia Q. Stonesifer, co-chair and president of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation; Wesley S. Williams Jr., of Washington, D.C., Partner in the law firm of Covington & Burling

We should contact the Board members. Certainly, Sen. Frist and Sen. Cochran should be sympatric

20 posted on 01/28/2005 11:52:31 AM PST by superdad
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