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ACTRESS SLAIN
NY Post ^ | January 28, 2005 | MURRAY WEISS, PATRICK GALLAHUE and RICH CALDER

Posted on 01/28/2005 5:41:03 AM PST by Pharmboy

Rick Dembow January 28, 2005 -- A stunning 28-year-old actress died in her fiancé's arms yesterday after a Lower East Side thug answered her challenge — "What are you going to do, shoot us?" — by firing a single bullet into her chest, cops said. Nicole DuFresne, of Brooklyn, had just left a trendy bar with her fiancé and another couple when they were confronted at about 3:15 a.m. by four muggers — two men and two women — at the corner of Clinton and Rivington streets, police said. One of the thugs, who was carrying a gun, demanded money. DuFresne's fiancé, Jeffrey Sparks, 28, not seeing the mugger had a gun and not taking the request seriously, tried to push past the man.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; crime; darwinaward; dufresne; hangemhigh; murder; robbery; standuptocrime; victimsrights
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To: TexasNative2000
Sarcasm is best restrained at the point of a gun.

as tragic as this is, and I give no quarter to thugs, when you're unarmed in the jungle it's best to not taunt the gorillas. it's even better to not be unarmed, when in the jungle.

I still think the whole thing sucks.

241 posted on 01/28/2005 9:39:19 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (Leftists Are Losers.)
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To: Pharmboy

Sounds like no one was sober. Carrying a deadly weapon demands a level of responsibility. The choice that should have been there means the person carrying can't be drunk.


242 posted on 01/28/2005 9:41:48 AM PST by cyborg
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To: jocon307

Should ban anything named Clinton in New York. That will cut down on crime.


243 posted on 01/28/2005 9:41:57 AM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: cyborg
Hey--I'm agreeing with you but you won't take yes for an answer.

I believe there are a few times when you shouldn't drink: when you are watching kids, riding a motorcycle or when armed. Prolly not a good idea to have a few Scotches when flying a plane also.

244 posted on 01/28/2005 9:48:58 AM PST by Pharmboy (Dems lie because they have to)
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To: dennisw
Has anyone checked on the immigration status of these thugs!

I bet that they were illegal. What were their last names? Does it sound foreign? Even if they were Americans I beat that they're only 3rd or 4th generation Americans, that would explain this whole thing then.......


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245 posted on 01/28/2005 9:49:58 AM PST by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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To: Pharmboy

They were slummin' in a baaaaaad neighborhood.


246 posted on 01/28/2005 9:51:27 AM PST by Ciexyz (I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie)
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To: satchmodog9

It was named after this guy:

Clinton, George, 1739–1812, American statesman, vice president of the United States (1805–1812), b. Little Britain, N.Y. Before he was 20 he served on a privateer and, in the French and Indian War, accompanied the regiment of his father, Charles Clinton, in the expedition against Fort Frontenac led by John Bradstreet. After studying law in New York City he began practice in Ulster co. and was elected (1768) to the provincial assembly, where he became a leader of the anti-British faction. In 1775, Clinton was elected one of the state's delegates to the Second Continental Congress. Military duties as a brigadier general in the Continental Army prevented his signing the Declaration of Independence. Clinton's defense of the Hudson, although courageous, resulted in the capture of Fort Clinton and Fort Montgomery by the British general, Sir Henry Clinton.

Under the new state constitution, which George Clinton helped to frame, he was elected (June, 1777) the first governor of New York state. His energy and leadership as governor for six successive terms (1777–95) led to his being called the father of New York state. He managed trade and public welfare problems ably, and he successfully settled the Native American troubles in W New York. He advanced New York's claims to the New Hampshire Grants (now Vermont), initiated action on building canals (later realized by his nephew, De Witt Clinton), and unsuccessfully fought the transfer from New York to the United States of the right to collect duties at the port of New York.

An advocate of state sovereignty, Clinton was one of the chief opponents of the U.S. Constitution, writing seven letters against ratification, signed Cato, in the New York Journal. These were answered by Alexander Hamilton in his letters, signed Caesar, in the Daily Advertiser. Clinton's views on the Constitution were opposed by a rapidly growing party, the Federalists, under the leadership of John Jay. Jay, running against Clinton for governor, lost the election of 1792 only by a questionable manipulation of returns on the part of the Clintonians, and in 1795 Jay won with ease, Clinton having declined to become a candidate.

As a result of his alliance with the Livingstons and Aaron Burr, Clinton became governor for a seventh term in the Republican triumph of 1800; he still holds the record for longest-serving New York governor–22 years. In 1804 he was elected vice president for President Jefferson's second term. He sought the presidency in 1808, having won support for that office in previous elections, but again he received only the vice presidency, this time under James Madison.


247 posted on 01/28/2005 9:52:21 AM PST by Pharmboy (Dems lie because they have to)
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To: Pharmboy
"Sparks said the muggers were "young guys, very young, probably teenagers."

He said of the gunman, "It looked like it's probably the first robbery he'd ever done. He wasn't good at it."

What the hell kind of comment is that???

248 posted on 01/28/2005 9:56:07 AM PST by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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To: durasell; Pharmboy
Now, the kid is halfway down the block. You have a choice: either pull your piece and shoot or call 911. If you do shoot . . . . You may hit the mugger, in which case your life becomes a hell for the next six months before you are cleared.

You wouldn't be cleared: I'm pretty sure shooting a fleeing perp in NYC is against the law.

249 posted on 01/28/2005 9:56:52 AM PST by Age of Reason
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To: alisasny
..but his Momma will swear he is a good boy with a kind heart...and straight A's in school....

And will have the obligatory picture of the suspect at his 5th grade graduation.

250 posted on 01/28/2005 9:59:45 AM PST by PallMal
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To: Age of Reason
OBD II Fault Codes Reference Guide

Defending yourself against armed robbers in NYC is against the law - remember Bernard Goetz?

251 posted on 01/28/2005 10:01:38 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: Age of Reason

This whole thing is ridiculous. You have people arguing here who have never set foot in NYC.


252 posted on 01/28/2005 10:02:22 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: txrangerette

"Paul Kersey" had the right idea too.


253 posted on 01/28/2005 10:03:42 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (This just in from CBS: "There is no bias at CBS")
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To: Pharmboy

I know who the street was named after. I wonder if our kids will see all the Clinton streets across the nation and think they were named after Billery. I meant banning all things Clinton as in Billery.


254 posted on 01/28/2005 10:04:24 AM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: JoeSixPack1; All
well, I don't think it sits well when an innocent person is shot down by animals and so many responses have to do with her liberalism, her arrogance, her being out late, her being in the wrong side of town, etc etc.....

let's put the blame on the murderer,Okay?

besides, most freepers admire those that stand up to criminals....

geesh.....let's give a little grace to the poor victim here.....

255 posted on 01/28/2005 10:05:31 AM PST by cherry
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To: AlexW
"I doubt that she was very bright to begin with. "

so she deserved Killin'?

256 posted on 01/28/2005 10:07:46 AM PST by cherry
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To: satchmodog9

I knew you were being tongue in cheek...not a lot of people know who George Clinton was. Sorry if my post implied that you didn't--I meant no insult.


257 posted on 01/28/2005 10:07:58 AM PST by Pharmboy (Dems lie because they have to)
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To: durasell

The article said she had been a rape victim....she probably made the choice in the past not to be victimized again.


258 posted on 01/28/2005 10:08:39 AM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: Tempest

Yeah...that startled me also. I just chalked it up to the stress of the situation.


259 posted on 01/28/2005 10:09:34 AM PST by Pharmboy (Dems lie because they have to)
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To: johnnycap

They were not in Brooklyn...they were in the Lower Eastside of Manhattan.


260 posted on 01/28/2005 10:10:23 AM PST by FeliciaCat
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