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Universal Translator Might be Needed to Understand ET
space.com ^ | 01/27/05 | Douglas Vakoch

Posted on 01/27/2005 8:03:58 PM PST by KevinDavis

Will we ever find a primer for decoding messages from extraterrestrials? Last month, anthropologists who gathered for a major conference in Atlanta, Georgia heard some news that will be sobering for SETI enthusiasts: it may be much more difficult to understand extraterrestrials than many scientists have thought before.

Among the sessions held during December’s annual meeting of the American Anthropological Association was one called "Anthropology, Archaeology, and Interstellar Communication: Science and the Knowledge of Distant Worlds." The session included papers by scholars from such diverse fields as astronomy, archaeology, anthropology, and psychology. Is there a Cosmic Rosetta Stone, they asked, drawing parallels to Earth’s own Rosetta Stone, which provided the key to decoding Egyptian hieroglyphics? Will we ever find a comparable primer for decrypting any messages we might receive some day from extraterrestrials?

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To: Quix

No. Missile silos, command bunkers, secure munitions storage areas, and hardened aircraft hangers just don't get spoken into existence.


121 posted on 01/28/2005 9:52:15 AM PST by L,TOWM (My aixelsyd must be kicking in again...)
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To: Graybeard58
Contary to popular belief aliens does not speak english.

Neither does you.

Post of the day!

122 posted on 01/28/2005 9:53:23 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour; RadioAstronomer

Actually, now that I've had some coffee (and food), I think my joke to RA is a really BAD IDEA.

Transmitting the carbon wavelength might just announce to other carbon based life forms that we are not only delicious, but nutritious as well...


123 posted on 01/28/2005 9:56:19 AM PST by L,TOWM (My aixelsyd must be kicking in again...)
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To: vannrox

I like this one, too. Maybe partly because it's sort of in our distant back yard here in Northern NM.




COSCON Series #13
edited by Branton


In the Spring of 1990 researcher 'Jason Bishop' sent copies of the following report to a select few investigators, and later gave permission for the report to be distributed among a wider readership. The transcript, titled: 'RECOLLECTIONS AND IMPRESSIONS OF VISIT TO DULCE, NEW MEXICO - OCTOBER 23, 24, 1988', is reproduced in its entirety below:


"Upon arrival I was introduced to Dr. John F. Gille, a French National. Dr. Gille has a PhD in Math/Physics from the University of Paris. He had worked very closely with the French Government on the UFO phenomena in that country (Note: There have been many reports over the past several years which allege that the French Government is working closely and secretly with a benevolent hi-tech 'Scandinavian-like' human society which has colonized a planet in the 'relatively' nearby system of Wolf 424. Photographs of the craft utilized by these humans have been taken in separate parts of the world, showing an emblem resembling an 'H' with an extra vertical 'bar' through the center of the 'crossbar'. Much has been written, especially in French publications, of the contacts with these beings, who reportedly now live on a planet called 'Ummo' and are therefore known as Ummites. They warn against the predatory 'grey aliens' that have been encountered by UFO abductees, and the Ummites allegedly work closely with another human society in 'Vega' who -- like the Ummites themselves -- claim ancient ties with prehistoric 'lost' civilizations on earth. Much technical information has been included with the reports on the 'Ummo' contacts, and although it is uncertain what part John Gille might play in that scenario, he is no doubt aware of the 'Ummo' accounts themselves - Branton). "He told me," Bishop continues, "that he has not worked in his chosen field for fifteen years, having devoted all of his time to research on UFOs. Dr. Gille is an amiable, forthright man. He has no reservations about expressing his own views on the subject. He does hold several beliefs that border on the paranormal. Dr. Gille had his wife, Elaine, with him. My personal view of him is one of caution. Until I get to know him better, I feel that I should be very careful.


"Edmound Gomez is a rancher. His ranch is 13 miles west of Dulce (Note: Accounts given by others state that the ranch is east of Dulce, but whatever the case it's safe to say that it's 13 miles FROM Dulce - Branton). From 1975 until 1983 the Gomez ranch was the scene of most of the cattle mutilations that took place in the northern New Mexico/southern Colorado area (that is, the highest 'concentration' of 'mutes' - Branton). He told me that his family homesteaded the Dulce area 111 years ago and that as a result of these mutilations, they lost $100,000 in cattle over an eight year period. One of these cases occurred only 200 yards behind his home. He showed me the area.


"Edmound was very open and discussed with me the various mutilation cases that had occurred on his ranch and on those of others. Upon our return from the mountain trip, he invited me to his home where he shared with me various photographs, clippings,letters etc. relating to the cases. He loaned me several overhead photographs of the Mt. Archuleta area. I hope to be able to have them examined through image intensification techniques.


"Edmound also told me about the many times that combat ready troops had been spotted in the area. Some of these troops were found in areas that are only gotten to through four-wheel drive trucks or on foot. (This is VERY rugged country). The troops were also spotted in areas that only the Apache has permission to go. When the reported 'experimental aircraft' went down in 1983, there were 'hundreds of troops, armed to the teeth' reported in the area. When approached, the troops would run and disappear.


"Participants in the Mt. Archuleta expedition were: Gabe Valdez, Edmound Gomez, Dr. John Gille, (name deleted), Manuel Gomez (Edmound's brother), Jeff and Matt Valdez (Gabe's sons). Because of Gabe's position as head of the State Police in Dulce and Edmound being a part of the community, we were given permission to go onto the mountain. It is located on the Apache Reservation.


"We left about 1430 hrs, Sunday, 23 October 1988. We used Gabe's four wheel drive pickup truck to get up the mountain. The road was incredibly difficult. At one time we had to dig out the side of the mountain in order to allow the truck to pass. At about 1730 hrs we arrived at the proposed campsite. It was on a relatively flat area about 300 yards from the peak of Mt. Archuleta.


"Gabe and Edmound both told me that in 1978 there was an agreement between the Ute Indians (Colorado) and the Federal Government. This agreement consisted of the Ute Nation receiving all the territory now occupied along the New Mexico/Colorado border with the explicit agreement that they would strictly enforce a 'NO TRESPASSING' regulation along the border of their territory. Therefore, it is not possible to even cross the Ute Reservation without special permission from the Tribal Headquarters. If caught without this permission you are liable for a fine and/or jail and expulsion. There is now a road leading to the Archuleta area through the reservation. It is patrolled by the Indian Forest Service (Note: there is reportedly a peripheral base, connected to 'Dulce', within the UTE MOUNTAINS of southwest Colorado -Branton)


"At 1951 hrs. all seven of us spotted a very bright light coming from the northwest at a very high rate of speed. The object appeared to be boomerang shaped with a very bright light just below its center (one unsubstantiated source claims that the 'boomerangs' are connected to Mars -- possibly tied-in with the ALTERNATIVE 003 scenario - Branton). The light was a bright white, blue and green. As it approached, it slowed down (obviously under intelligent control), seemed to reverse direction, finally stopping. When it stopped, a shower of what appeared to be sparks were emitted from each end of the boomerang, and then it began moving forward again and disappeared from sight at a very high rate of speed. All this took place in approximately 10 to 15 seconds. We attempted to take a picture of the object but were unsuccessful.


"About 2200 hours we climbed to the summit of Mt. Archuleta and watched for about an hour and a half. We could see across the canyon in the moonlight. This canyon wall is where Paul Bennewitz (prominent and well known physicist and UFO investigator) claimed an 'alien' base is located and that during the night their ships are seen entering and leaving cave openings in the cliffwall. During our stay on the peak, we saw two very bright lights on the cliff walls in the exact location where Paul said the base openings were. There are no roads on this cliff. The light would appear suddenly and then fade over a period of time until you could not see them. At this time we also heard voices that sounded like radio transmissions. The voices were not understandable but they were there none the less. The same light pattern was seen by myself and Edmound Gomez as we sat on the cliff...at about 0100 hours. We also heard voices. At one time we thought we could hear trucks moving but we could not be sure about this. After 0200 hours there were no more sightingsor sounds.


"On Monday, 24 October 1988 the entire party climbed to the peak once again. We were looking for evidence that there had been a crash of an 'experimental aircraft' flown by an Air Force General in 1983. This crash was reported in the newspapers for two days as a small plane and then hushed up. The craft was rumored to be a captured UFO, flown by Americans. We were hoping to prove that there indeed had been a crash but also to find some physical evidence.


"Dr. Bennewitz reported that the craft had clipped off a large tree in it's descent, had hit another tree, regained altitude, skimmed over the peak of Archuleta, (and) hit a third tree in the valley north of the peak. It was then reported to have hit the ground, flipped over twice and came to rest. We found the trees as reported by Bennewitz. They were all in line with each other and the final resting place. The first tree was about 40 inches in diameter. It was hit about 30 feet off the ground. There was no fire. I have taken samples of this tree for analysis. The other two trees were smaller (approximately 12 to 20 inches in diameter). There was evidence of fire with these. Samples of (these) trees were also taken. Between the second tree and the third tree we found large pieces of what appeared to be part of the first tree. One piece was burnt while next to it was one that was had not been burned. Samples were taken. While searching for physical evidence, a standard issue style ball-point pen was found. This is of the same type used by the U.S. Government but can also be purchased by the general public. Strange to have been found in such a remote place as this canyon. The alleged crash area showed a large SEMI-CIRCULAR area with new vegetation. The area above the semi-circular area was covered with new vegetation also. Samples of the soil of this area were taken.


"My overall impressions of this trip are mixed. I believe that there is definitely something going on in the area. What it is, I do not know. Perhaps there is a base there. Perhaps it is jointly operated by 'aliens' and the government, as claimed by John Lear. Then again, it could be a US base so super secret that there are no fences around to arouse any suspicion... then again I cannot say for sure. I do know that the evidence that we found and saw definitely points to the fact that something is going on in this area."


124 posted on 01/28/2005 9:56:51 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Physicist
It's definitely Leinster's story, which has been very widely anthologized. If you have a copy of The Science Fiction Hall of Fame, it's in there, along with Stanley Weibanum's "A Martian Odyssey", probably the classic story of alien contact.
125 posted on 01/28/2005 10:00:47 AM PST by RightWingAtheist (Marxism-the creationism of the left)
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To: L,TOWM

Ahhhhhh, of course. Silly me.

But a TBM is some VERY SERIOUS digging. Other than Cheyenne mountain--and how many of THOSE do we have? I'd hope lots but am skeptical we've been that diligent in our own preservation.


126 posted on 01/28/2005 10:01:49 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix

For some reason I love the Dulce story though I'm wary of getting near it! LOL.

Another installment:





THE FOLLOWING MATERIAL COMES FROM PEOPLE WHO KNOW THE DULCE (UNDERGROUND) BASE EXISTS. THEY ARE PEOPLE WHO WORKED IN THE LABS; ABDUCTEES TAKEN TO THE BASE; PEOPLE WHO ASSISTED IN THE CONSTRUCTION; INTELLIGENCE PERSONAL (NSA,CIA,FBI ECT.) AND UFO / INNER-EARTH RESEARCHERS.


THIS INFORMATION IS MEANT FOR THOSE WHO ARE SERIOUSLY INTERESTED IN THE DULCE BASE. FOR YOUR OWN PROTECTION BE ADVISED TO "USE CAUTION" WHILE INVESTIGATING THIS COMPLEX.


An ongoing investigation:


"THE DULCE BASE"
by Jason Bishop III


This facility is a "GENETICS LAB" and is connected to Los Alamos, via a "Tube-Shuttle." Part of their research is related to the General Effects of Radiation (Mutations and Human Genetics). Its research also includes other "Intelligent Species" (Alien Biological Life Form "Entities").


In the revised September 1950 edition of "THE EFFECTS OF ATOMIC WEAPONS" prepared for and in cooperation with the U.S. Department of Defense and the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission, under the direction of the Los Alamos Scientific Laboratory, we read about how "complete Underground placement of Bases is desirable". On page #381: "There are apparently no fundamental difficulties in construction and operating Underground various types of important Facilities. Such facilities may be placed in a suitable existing mine or a site may be excavated for the purpose".


CAUGHT IN THE GAME


Centuries ago, Surface People (some say the Illuminati) entered into a pact with an "Alien Nation" (hidden within the Earth). The U.S. Government, in 1933, agreed to trade Animals and Humans in exchange for High Tech Knowledge, and allow them to use (undisturbed) UNDERGROUND BASES, in the Western USA. A Special Group was formed to deal with the Alien Beings. In the 1940's, "Alien Life Forms (ALF)" began shifting their focus of operations, from Central and South America, to the USA.


The Continental Divide is vital to these "Entities". Part of this has to do with Magnetics (Substrata Rock) and High Energy States (Plasma). [See: BEYOND THE FOUR DIMENSIONS (Reconciling Physics, Parapsychology and UFOs by Karl Brunstein. Also: NUCLEAR EVOLUTION (Discovery of the Rainbow Body) by Christopher Hills.]


This area has a very high concentration of Lightning Activity, Underground Waterways and Cavern Systems, Fields of Atmospheric Ions, ect, ect.


WHOS PLANET IS THIS?


These Aliens consider themselves "Native Terrans". They are an Ancient Race (descendent from a Reptilian Humanoid Species which cross-bred with Sapient Humans). They are untrustworthy manipulative Mercenary Agents for another Extraterrestrial Culture (The DRACO) who are returning to Earth (their ancient "Outpost") to use it as a staging area.


But, these Alien Cultures are in conflict over Whos' Adgenda will be followed for this Planet. All the while Mental Control is being used to keep Humans "in place", especially since the Forties.


The DULCE Complex is a Joint US Government / Alien Base. It was the first built with The Aliens (others are in Colorado, NV, AZ.)


THE SECRET "ACTIVITY"


Paul Benewitz reports, about his study into the Dulce area, "Troops went in and out of there every summer, starting in '47. The natives do recall that. They also built a road - right in front of the people of Dulce and trucks went in and out for a long period. That Road was later blocked and destroyed.. The signs on the trucks were 'Smith' Corp. out of Paragosa Springs, Colorado. No such corporation exists now - no record exists..... I belive the Base - at least the first one was being built then under the cover of a lumbering project.... problem - they NEVER hauled logs. Only BIG Equipment".


R&D AND THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX


THE RAND CORP. became involved and did a study, for the Base. Most of the lakes near Dulce were made, via Government grants 'for' the Indians.


NAVAJO DAM is the main source for conventional electrical power, with a second source in EL VADO (also, an entrance).


Note: If RAND is the mother of "THINK TANKS", then the "FORD FOUNDATION" must be considered the father.


Rand secrecy is not confined to 'Reports', but on occasion extends to Conferences and Meetings. On page #645 of The PROJECT RAND, proceedings of the DEEP UNDERGROUND CONSTRUCTION SYMPOSIUM (March 1959) we read: "Just as airplanes, ships and automobiles have given man mastery of the surface of the Earth, Tunnel-Boring Machines... will give him access to the Subterranean World".


Note: The Sept. 1983 issue of "OMNI" (pg#80) has a color drawing of "THE SUBTERRENE", the Los Alamos nuclear-powered tunnel machine that burrows through the rock, deep underground, by heating whatever stone it encounters into molten rock (magma), which cools after the SUBTERRENE has moved on. These underground tubes are used by electro- magnetically powered "Subshuttle Vehicles", which can travel at great speeds. They connect the "Hidden Empire" Sub-City Complexes. Also, the top-secret project code-named: "NOAH's ARK", uses "TUBE-SHUTTLES" in connection with a system of over 100 'Bunkers' and 'Bolt Holes' which have been established at various places on Earth. With other Bases inside the Moon and Mars. Many of these underground Cities are complete with streets, sidewalks, lakes, small electric cars, apartments, offices and shopping malls.


There were over 650 attendees to the 1959 RAND Symposium. Most were representatives of the Corporate- Industrial State, like: THE GENERAL ELECTRIC COMPANY, AT&T, HUGHES AIRCRAFT, NORTHROP CORP., SANDIA CORP., STANFORD RESEARCH INSTITUTE, WALSH CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, THE BECHTEL CORP, COLORADO SCHOOL OF MINES, ECT,ECT.


BECHTEL (pronounced BECK-tul) is a supersecret international corporate octopus, founded in 1898. Some say the firm is really a "SHADOW GOVERNMENT" - a working arm of the CIA. It is the largest construction and engineering outfit, in the USA and the WORLD (and some say BEYOND).


The most important posts in the US Government are held by former BECHTEL Officers. They are part of "The WEB" (an interconnected control system) which links the Tri-Lateralist plans, the C.F.R. the Orders of "Illuminism" (Cult of the All-Seeing Eye) and other interlocking groups.


SURVIVING THE FUTURE


The DULCE FACILITY consists of a Central "HUB", the Security Section, (also some photo labs). The deeper you go, the stronger the Security. This is a multi-leveled Complex. There are over 3000 cameras at various High-Security locations (exits and Labs).


There are over 100 Secret Exits near and around Dulce. Many around Archuleta Mesa, others to the south around Dulce Lake and even as far east as Lindrith.


Deep sections of the Complex connect into natural Cavern Systems. A person who worked at the Base, who had an "ULTRA 7" Clearance, reports: "There may be more than seven levels, but I only know of seven. Most of the Aliens are on 5-6-7 Levels. Alien housing is Level Five."


21st CENTURY POWER: "BIO-TECH"


We are leaving the Era of expendable resources, like Oil based products. The Power of the Future is Re-newable resources... "Biologically" Engineered. The Dulce Genetic Research was originally funded under the cloak of "BLACK BUDGET" Secrecy. (Billions $$$$)


They were interested in intelligent "Disposable Biology" (Humanoids), to do the dangerous Atomic (Plutonium) Rocket and Saucer experiments.


We Cloned "our" own little Humanoids. Via a process perfected in the Bio-Genetic Research Center of the World, Los Alamos! Now we have our own disposable slave-race. Like the Alien "Greys" (EBES), the US Government clandestindly impregnated females, then removed the hybrid fetus, (after three months) and then accelerated their growth in the Lab. Biogenetic (DNA Manipulation) programming is then instilled - they are "Implanted" and controlled at a distance through RF (Radio Frequency) transmissions. Many Humans are also being "Implanted" with Brain Transceivers. These act as telepathic "Channels" and telemetric brain manipulation devices. The network-net was set-up by DARPA (Advanced Research Project Agengy). Two of the procedures were, RHIC (Radio-Hypnotic Intercerebral Control) and EDOM (Electronic Dissolution of Memory). The brain transceiver is inserted into the head thru the nose. These devices are used in the Soviet Union and the United Stated, as well as Sweden. The Swedish Prime Minister Palme gave the National Swedish Police Board the right (in 1973) to insert brain transmitters into the heads of human beings COVERTLY!


They also developed ELF and EM wave propagation equipment (RAYS) which affect the nerves and can cause nausea, fatigue, irritability, even death. This is essentially the same as Richard Shaver's Cavern "Telaug" Mech. This research into biodynamic relationships within organisms ("BIOLOGICAL PLASMA") has produced a RAY that can change the "genetic structure" and "HEAL". Shaver's Cavern "BEN-Mech" could HEAL!


WARNING: MANIPULATION AND CONTROL


FEAR, FRAUD AND FAVOR... The Pentagon, the CIA, NSA,DEA,FBI,NSC, etc... seek to capitalize on the Beliefs of the American Public. The Secret Government is getting ready to 'stage' a Contact-Landing with "ALIENS" in the near future. This way they can 'CONTROL' the release of Alien related Propaganda. We will be told of an Inter-Stellar Conflict.


But... what looks real, may be "FAKE". What is disinformation? Is your attention being diverted by the Strategy of a "SHADOW PLAN"?


OVERT AND COVERT RESEARCH


As US Energy Secretary, John Herrington named the Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory and New Mexico's Los Alamos National Laboratory to house new advanced genetic research centers as part of a Project to decipher the Human Genome. The Genome holds the genetically coded instructions that guide the transformation of a single cell - a fertilized egg - into a Biological Being. "The Human Genome Project may well have the greatest direct impact on humanity of any scientific initiative before us today", said David Shirley, Director of the Berkeley Laboratory.


Covertly, this research has been going on for years, at DULCE LABS. Level #6 is privately called "NIGHT-MARE HALL", it holds the Genetic Labs. Reports from workers who have seen bizarre experimentation, are as follows: "I have seen multi-legged 'humans' that look like half-human / half-octopus. Also Reptilian-humans, and furry creatures that have hands like humans and cries like a baby, it mimics human words... also huge mixture of Lizard-humans in cages". There are fish, seals, birds and mice that can barely be considered those species. There are several cages (and vats) of Winged-humanoids, grotesque Bat-like creatures...but 3 1/2 to 7 feet tall. Gargoyle-like beings and Draco-Reptoids. Level #7 is worse, row after row of thousands of humans and human mixtures in cold storage. Here too are embryo storage vats of Humanoids in various stages of development.


"I frequently encountered humans in cages, usually dazed or drugged, but sometimes they cried and begged for help. We were told they were hopelessly insane, and involved in high risk drug tests to cure insanity. We were told to never try to speak to them at all. At the beginning we believed that story. Finally in 1978 a small group of workers discovered the truth. It began the Dulce Wars". (and a secret resistance Unit was formed) Note: There are over 18,000 "Aliens" at the Dulce Base. In late 1979, there was a confrontation (over weapons), alot of Scientists and Military personnel were KILLED. The Base was closed for a while....But, it IS currently active. Note: Human and animal abductions (for their Blood and other parts) slowed in the mid-1980s, when the Livermore Berkeley Labs began production of artificial blood for Dulce. William Cooper states: "A clash occurred where in 66 people, of our people, from the National Recon Group, the DELTA group, which is responsible for Security of all Alien connected Projects, were killed."


The DELTA Group (within Intelligence Support Activity) have been seen with badges which have a black Triangle on a red background. DELTA is the fourth letter of the Greek alphabet. It has the form of a triangle, and figures prominently in certain Masonic Signs.


*EACH BASE HAS ITS OWN SYMBOL. The DULCE Base symbol is a triangle with the Greek letter "Tau" (T) within it and then the symbol is inverted, so the triangle points down.


* The Insignia of "a triangle and 3 laterial lines" has been seen on "Saucer (transport) Craft", The Tri-Laterial Symbol.


* Other symbols mark landing sights and Alien Craft.


INSIDE THE DULCE BASE


Security Officers wear jumpsuits, with the Dulce Symbol on the front upper left side. The standard hand weapon, at Dulce is a "Flash Gun", which is good against Humans and Aliens. The ID card (used in card slots, for the doors and elevators) has the Dulce Symbol above the ID photo. "Government Honchos" use cards with the Great Seal of the U.S. on it. "The Cult of the All-Seeing Eye" (THE NEW WORLD ORDER) 13, "666" The Phoenix Empire....."9" "Illuminism"... "One out of many".


After the Second Level, everyone is weighed, in the nude, then given a Uniform. "Visitors" are given an 'off white' uniform. In front of ALL sensitive areas are scales built under the doorway, by the door control. The persons card must match with the weight and code or the door won't open. Any discrepancy in weight (any change over three pounds) will summon Security. No one is allowed to carry anything into or out of sensitive areas. All supplies are put thru a Security conveyor system. The Alien Symbol language appears a lot at the Facility.


During the construction of the Facility (which was done in stages, over many years) the Aliens assisted in the Design and Construction materials. Many of the things assembled by the workers, were of a Technology they could not understand, yet...it would function when fully put together. Example: The elevators have no cables. They are controlled magnetically. The Magnetic system is inside the walls.


There are no conventional electrical controls. All is controlled by advanced Magnetics. That includes a magnetically induced (phosphorescent ) Illumination System. There are no regular light bulbs. All EXITS are magnetically controlled. Note: it has been reported that, "If you place a large magnet on a entrance, it will affect an immediate interruption. They will have to come out and reset the system."


THE TOWN OF DULCE


The area around Dulce has had a high number of reported Animal Mutilations. The Government and the Aliens used the animals for Environmental tests, Psychological Warfare on people, ect. The Aliens also wanted large amounts of Blood for Genetic, Nutritional and other reasons.


In the book, "ETs & UFOs - THEY NEED US, WE DON'T NEED THEM" by Virgil "Posty" Armstrong, he reports how his friends (Bob & Sharon) stopped for the night in Dulce and went out to dinner. "They overheard some local residents openly and vociferously discussing Extraterrestrial Abduction of townspeople for purposes of experimentation." The ET's were taking unwilling human guinea pigs from the general populace of Dulce and Implanting Devices in their heads and bodies. The townspeople were frightened and angry but didn't feel that they had any recourse since the ET's had our Governments knowledge and approval.


Recently, participants in a "field investigation" of the area near Archuletta Mesa, were confronted by two small hovering 'Spheres'. They all became suddenly ill and had to leave the area.


"THE MONITORS": ABDUCTIONS


In the Fifties, the EBES (Greys) began taking large numbers of humans for experiments. By the Sixties, the rate was speeded up and they began getting careless (they didn't care). By the Seventies, their true colors were very obvious, but the "Special Group" of the Government still kept covering up for them. By the Eighties, the Government realized there was no defense against the "Greys". So... programs were enacted to prepare the Public for open contact with non-human "Alien" Beings.


The "Greys" and the "Reptoids" are in league with each other. But, their relationship is in a state of tension.


The "Greys" only known enemy is the Reptillian Race, and they are on their way to Earth. (Inside a Planetoid).


Some forces, in the Government, want the Public to be aware of what is happening. Other forces (The Collaborators) want to continue making "whatever deals are necessary" for an Elite few to survive the conflicts.


The Future could bring a Fascist "WORLD ORDER" or a transformation of Human Consciousness (Awareness). The struggle is NOW...your active assistance is needed. Prepare! We must preserve Humanity on Earth.


MIND MANIPULATION EXPERIMENTS


The DULCE Base has studied Mind Control Implants, Bio-Psi Units, ELF Devices capable of Mood, Sleep and Heartbeat Control, ect,ect.


D.A.R.P.A. (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) is using these Technologies to manipulate people. They establish 'The Projects', set priorities, coordinate efforts and guide the many participants in these undertakings. Related Projects are studied at Sandia Base by "The Jason Group" (of 55 scientists). They have secretly harnessed the Dark Side of Technology and hidden the beneficial Technology from the Public.


Other Projects take place at "AREA #51" in Nevada... "DREAMLAND"[Data Repository Establishment and Maintenace Land], ELMINT[Electro-Magnetic Intelligence], CODE EMPIRE, CODE EVA, PROGRAM HIS[Hybrid Intelligence System], BW/CW, IRIS[Infrared Intruder System], BI-PASS, REP-TILES.


The studies on LEVEL #4, at DULCE, includes Human-Aura research, as well as all aspects of Dreams, Hypnosis, Telepathy, ect. They know how to manipulate the BIOPLASMIC BODY (of Man). They can lower your heart beat, with Deep Sleep "DELTA WAVES", induce a static shock, then re-program via a Brain- Computer Link. They can introduce data and programed reactions into your Mind (Information impregnation - the "Dream Library".


We are entering an ERA of the Technologicalization of Psychic Powers. The development of techniques to enhance man/machine communications, Nano-Tech, Bio-Tech Micro-Machines, PSI-War, E.D.O.M. (Electronic Dissolution of Memory), R.H.I.C. (Radio-Hypnotic Intra-Cerebral Control) and various forms of behavior control (Via Chemical Agents, Ultra-Sonics, Optical and other forms of EM Radiation). The Physics of "Consciousness."


BETTER LIVING THROUGH BIO-TECH???


The development of "BIO-TECHNOLOGIES" will mean a revolutionary change in the Life of every Human Being now on Earth!


WARNING...FASCISM IS "CORPORATISM"


We have passed the point of no return, in our interaction with the "Alien" Beings. We are guaranteed "A Crisis" which will persist until the final REVELATION (or conflict).


The crisis is here. Global and real. We must mitigate or transform the nature of the disasters to come and come they will. Knowing is half the battle. Read the book, "THE COSMIC CONSPIRACY" by Stan Deyo.


THE PHANTOM EMPIRE: ABOVE THE LAW


The Dulce Base is run by a "Board." The Chairman of the Board is JOHN HERRINGTON. JIM BAKER (of TENN) is the CIA link to Dulce. House Speaker JIM WRIGHT, D-Texas (the nations third highest office) is Treasurer at Dulce.


There is currently a power struggle going on. As Rep. William Thomas, R- Calif., put it... Part of Jim Wrights problem is; "HE fails to understand what's equitable and fair. It's the arrogance of power." Even among his fellow Democrats, many find Wright to be "uncomfortably aloof". Wright's operating style leaves him vulnerable.


Most meetings of "The Dulce Board" are held in Denver and Taos (N.M.). Former New Mexico Senator Harrison "Last man on the Moon" Schmitt has full knowledge of Dulce. He was one of 7 Astronauts to tour the Base.


In 1979, he held an "Animal Mutilation" conference in Albuquerque, N.M. This was used to locate researchers and determine what they had learned about the links between the "Mute" operations and the Alien/Government.


Senator BRIAN (Nevada) knows about the "ULTRA" Secrets at "DREAMLAND" and Dulce. So do many others in the Government...this is what the UFO Researchers are up against.... so BE CAREFUL...they have KILLED to keep this info Secret. You now know more than they want you to know.


They also have underwater Bases off the coast of Florida and Peru. More detailed information will be released in the near future, photos, video tapes, documents, ect. Watch out for AGENTS among you now.


In the 1930's, "DIVISION FIVE" of the FBI knew about the "Aliens". A Fascist cabal, within this country, had John Kennedy assassinated. Look to the links, within the larger Umbrella... the "WEB" of a fascist totalitarian secret police state...within the Pentagon, Joint Chiefs of Staff, DIA, FBI (Division Five), DISC/DIS and the CIA. Note: The DEFENSE INVESTIGATIVE SERVICES Insignia is a composite of the Sun's Rays, a ROSE, and a Dagger, symbolizing "The Search for Information, Trustworthiness and Danger". Other links are Nazi scientists (who had contact with the "Aliens"), the S.S., Satanists, Permnidex, Exxon, the Mafia, NBC, ect, ect.


127 posted on 01/28/2005 10:03:16 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix

Hey, if its cool enough to dig a coal mine, nuclear waste storage shaft, or Petroleum Reserve storage cavern, its probably cool enough to dig a lot of stuff for the USAF that we don't hear about.

Like nuclear weapons, communications nodes, secure data storage complexes, heck, they might even be making sure we don't have a Dr. Strangelove "Mine Shaft Gap".


128 posted on 01/28/2005 10:14:26 AM PST by L,TOWM (My aixelsyd must be kicking in again...)
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To: Frank_Discussion

YUP! and then some.


129 posted on 01/28/2005 10:17:33 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: L,TOWM

True. Sounds reasonable enough to me.


130 posted on 01/28/2005 10:20:20 AM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: KevinDavis
Contary to popular belief aliens does not speak english.

Then they'd be right at home here, I guess.

131 posted on 01/28/2005 10:23:12 AM PST by Old Professer (When the fear of dying no longer obtains no act is unimaginable.)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Interesting post, thanks! A good treatment of some little-known issues in what you do.
132 posted on 01/28/2005 10:24:47 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: RadioAstronomer

I've always envisioned our first experience with ET as something like what I went through as a child, trying to watch the scambled "adult" channels. Every couple of seconds, I could glimpse a clear picture, briefly.

I wouldn't even be surprised if the message in question WAS porn!


133 posted on 01/28/2005 10:28:52 AM PST by Shryke (My Beeb-o-meter goes all the way to eleven.)
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To: js1138; RadioAstronomer

I sent RA an email about this, but he hasn't responded yet.

Have either of you read His Master's Voice? Opinion? I am reading it right now.


134 posted on 01/28/2005 10:30:40 AM PST by Shryke (My Beeb-o-meter goes all the way to eleven.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares; RadioAstronomer
Crunch data from radio telescopes on your PC or MAC with your spare CPU cycles.

I've used a few cycles myself...


135 posted on 01/28/2005 10:31:13 AM PST by Professional Engineer (The number exactly halfway between +1 and -1 is not "OH".)
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To: KevinDavis

Translating alien language?

Hell, I have a hard enough time with some of the crap I hear on TV that people are calling "English".

"Bling bling, bum diggity, like, I mean, you know what I'm sayin', I'm down wif dat, you da scrait bomb G."

WTF?!?!


136 posted on 01/28/2005 10:49:22 AM PST by Don Simmons (Annoy a liberal: Work hard; Prosper; Be Happy.)
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To: RadioAstronomer

I wouldn’t deny the possibility.


137 posted on 01/28/2005 10:51:05 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Quix

Please add me to the UFO ping list. Thanx.


138 posted on 01/28/2005 10:51:21 AM PST by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: KevinDavis
...aliens does not speak english

And, apparently, neither do you. ;-)

139 posted on 01/28/2005 10:53:02 AM PST by TChris (Most people's capability for inference is severely overestimated)
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