and we are going to be up against a ticket with a woman at the top and a Hispanic VP. but still, most freepers still believe we can toss out a ticket of two white guys, as long as they are pro-life, and win easily against Hillary. no way.
I'll go a step farther, I think the 2 white guy pro-lifers would blow a Hillary led ticket (even with a hispanic) out of the water.
Any ticket with her, has the potential to possibly lose a couple of the weak blue states (i.e. Wisconson, Minnesota, New Hampshire, etc).