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And They're Off! (The 2008 GOP handicapping begins)
The Weekly Standard ^ | January 31, 2005 | Duncan Currie

Posted on 01/27/2005 6:50:53 PM PST by RWR8189

TOO EARLY FOR REPUBLICANS TO fret about 2008? Never! Before last week's inaugural fireworks had even been lit, the handicapping of 2008 Republican hopefuls was well underway. GOP sources slice the potential '08ers into an A-list and a B-list. Here's a quick roundup of who's where, as President Bush kicks off Act Two. First the A-listers:

* John McCain. To conservative eyes, the Arizona senator has a lengthy rap sheet. McCain championed campaign-finance reform. He piqued the Christian Right in 2000. He opposed Bush's 2001 and 2003 tax cuts. He supports embryonic stem-cell research. And he's backed a host of other media-friendly issues--anti-tobacco legislation, a patients' bill of rights, gun control, CO2 emissions caps--that conservatives spurn.

But after the 2004 election, McCain's star is rising. He campaigned robustly for President Bush. That helped quash the residual bitterness of 2000. Also, McCain gave a superb speech at the Republican convention, in which he made a cogent case for the Iraq war. Still, his maverick bent will prove a burden. McCain's other big minus? He turns 72 in 2008. His big plus? Thanks to his Vietnam heroism and crossover appeal, he's the candidate Democrats fear most.

* Rudy Giuliani. It's hard to gauge how badly the Bernard Kerik fiasco hurts Giuliani long-term. On the one hand, the ex-mayor remains wildly popular and can thrill Republican crowds. On the other, Rudy's rivals will no doubt hang Kerik around his neck (along with Giuliani's two divorces and marital infidelity). But leave Kerik aside. Giuliani's true Achilles' heel is his social liberalism. He supports abortion rights--even partial-birth--and same-sex marriage. Ditto gun control. To win a GOP primary, Rudy must pipe up about his conservative strengths, namely, fighting bad guys at home and abroad. For no matter how weak his hand might appear, Giuliani still holds two aces: his remarkable transformation of New York City and his post-9/11 resiliency.

Of course, as memories of 9/11 recede, so might Giuliani's stature as "America's mayor." He could always boost his stock with a successful Senate or gubernatorial bid in 2006. Rudy "will be an early frontrunner," says one GOP insider. But "ultimately, I don't think he gets nominated."

* Bill Frist. Unlike Giuliani's and McCain's, Frist's fortunes are partly tied to President Bush. As Senate majority leader, Frist will earn credit--or blame--based on how much of the Bush agenda he shepherds through. If Bush gets tax, Social Security, or tort reform, it will be a feather in Frist's cap. He has a two-year window. Self-term limited, Frist won't seek reelection in 2006.

The Tennessee senator projects an amiable, mild demeanor. But he is no moderate Republican. Certainly in a three-way Giuliani-McCain-Frist race, Frist would stand out as a staunch conservative. He would also be the GOP establishment's choice. Frist may lack the dynamism and perceived toughness of Giuliani and McCain. But post-2004 election, he sounds hardened, especially when talking judges.

* Mitt Romney. He could be the sleeper candidate. Of all the A-listers, Romney is the only governor. And historically, as conservative activist Grover Norquist points out, "governors trump senators." Many governors lack real homeland security credentials--but not Romney. He can tout his work as chief of the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympics. Nor is Romney a Massachusetts Republican in the William Weld mold. He's much more conservative, proposing hefty tax relief and bucking his state's highest court on same-sex marriage. Also, as a GOP insider notes, Romney is good on TV and "richer than Steve Forbes."

Romney's baggage? He's famously fuzzy on abortion. Primary voters won't like that. Then there's his faith. Will evangelical Christians pull the lever for a Mormon? An awkward question, but one Republicans have raised. Perhaps sensing this, Romney met with a gathering of evangelicals last week in Washington, before hosting a reception for Bay State natives serving in the Bush administration.

Now for the B-listers:

* Bill Owens. Colorado's governor once seemed a prime candidate. Conservatives loved him. He had taken on a bevy of Democratic interest groups and emerged triumphant. A September 2002 National Review cover story proclaimed Owens "America's Best Governor." Several months later, he pushed through a landmark school-voucher bill. Since then, however, Owens separated from his wife of almost 30 years. And in the 2004 election, Colorado Republicans took a thrashing, losing both houses of the state legislature. Owens can claim a slew of conservative feats. But he lacks a fundraising base, and his '08 prospects seem to be fading.

* Chuck Hagel. "Hagel has kind of fallen off the map," says a leading GOP strategist. Nebraska's maverick senator certainly strikes a unique pose. Hagel serves up red meat on abortion, taxes, guns, and spending, but also tends toward a dovish view of U.S. foreign policy. In 2002, he criticized Bush's "axis of evil" phrase as "name-calling" and rebuked the "rush to wage war" in Iraq. More recently, Hagel, a Vietnam vet, slammed Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld over the war's conduct. Such anti-Bush positions will hardly endear him to rank-and-file Republicans.

* George Allen. As one GOP insider puts it, Virginia's junior senator would be the "conservative's conservative" in the race, à la Phil Gramm in 1996. But whereas Gramm came across as a curmudgeon, Allen, 52, sports youthful good looks and an easygoing charm. He also boasts executive experience. Allen governed Virginia from 1994 to 1998. A reliable pro-life tax-cutter, he sits just to the right of George W. Bush. "Allen runs as Ronald Reagan," predicts Norquist.

* George Pataki. Not only is he the most liberal Republican in the '08 pool, Gov. Pataki also finds himself overshadowed by fellow New Yorker Rudy Giuliani. Pataki's only saving grace could be his home state. Were he able to deliver New York, that would cripple the Democrats. Otherwise, Pataki doesn't have much going for him.

This list is far from exhaustive. One of the most enticing--but very unlikely--candidates remains Dick Cheney. A few right-wingers have already pondered a quixotic "Draft Cheney" campaign, urging Bush's VP to throw his hat in the ring. Cheney has long disavowed any interest in the presidency. But with ample prodding, and a solid second term for Bush, who knows?

Then, of course, there's Florida governor Jeb Bush, whom the Economist calls "the best candidate by far." Jeb has publicly ruled out a White House bid in 2008. But his paper trail makes him a conservative glamour boy. The genial Jeb is a pro-life, pro-voucher, tax-slashing, budget-trimming Reaganite. Absent a marquee '08er, Republicans will look favorably on Gov. Bush--and wish he had a different last name.

 

Duncan Currie is an editorial assistant at The Weekly Standard.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008elections; 2008primary; allen; allen2008; electionpresident; frist; georgeallen; gopprimary; guiliani; hagel; mccain; owens; pataki; romney
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To: RWR8189

Look, they included a conservative to make us all feel better. George Allen's on there! How nice of them! /sarcasm

This is a leftist's dream primary.


141 posted on 01/27/2005 8:05:18 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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To: GodBlessPeggyNoonan

Run Rummy Run! I like him, too. I'd love to see Rummy and a good number of conservatives out there to choose from, instead of just McCainiac and Screwliani.


142 posted on 01/27/2005 8:06:42 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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To: Irish Eyes

It's just too soon for them to even speculate.


143 posted on 01/27/2005 8:06:48 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: All
I think we need someone not named Bush or Dole at the top. No Dynasties. Jeb maybe in 2012 or 2016, but not 08. Besides, Jeb in 2012 can run on his own record, and it won't be a referendum on his brother, good or bad.

As for Rice, she's unproven on domestic issues. She has no record there. She's intelligent and competent in foreign policy matters, but she's only listed here as presidential material because she's black and a woman. If she was a white guy, there wouldn't be any talk here whatsoever about her being presidential material. It would be the same talk as say, Don Rumsfeld. I'd like to see Rice run for senator or governor instead first.

Would I vote for Rice? Maybe. I'd need to know her stances on all the issues before I make my decision. I'd vote for her over McCain, that's for damn sure, but over Allen? Probably not at this point.

144 posted on 01/27/2005 8:09:32 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Check up, fatboy!" - Scott Skiles)
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To: ohiocreek
It is time for an American Nationalist to run for president, and watch as people flock to his campaign.

I don't think the people are interested in an "American Nationalist," otherwise Pat Buchanan would have gotten the nomination in 1996. Tancredo wouldn't do nearly as well as Buchanan because Buchanan had polished media skills and name recognition.
145 posted on 01/27/2005 8:10:37 PM PST by JohnBDay
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To: My GOP
I didn't know he was a senator. I thought he lost when he ran for it. My mistake(and I usually don't make them on this stuff)

(Looked it up - "won't have Nixon to kick around was a governor race")

146 posted on 01/27/2005 8:13:03 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Check up, fatboy!" - Scott Skiles)
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To: Javelina

Hillary will not be denied the nomination if she wants it.


147 posted on 01/27/2005 8:13:41 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview
Makes sense to me. However, I doubt that Rudy can do anything to make himself electable, his personal life history is too messy. McCain will be too old tho that won't be admitted. Since the democrats have floated heart bypass Bill Clinton as a rerun, I would say Cheney shouldn't be ruled out for heart reasons either. A Jeb Bush-Condi Rice ticket sounds good to me, tho I have no idea whether they are compatible and could work together as Condi now does with the Pres. No matter who the Republican candidates are, if something isn't done at the national level about voter fraud, this whole discussion could be academic.
150 posted on 01/27/2005 8:16:59 PM PST by mountainfolk (God bless President George Bush)
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To: Javelina

Yes, but having Hillary as Pres. would ignite the conservatives in Congress. We'd probably actually get more conservative things done. With McCain, loyalty issues would pop up and we'd get just as much, if not more, liberalism than we would under Hillary.


Maybe domestically. But Congress has very little power in foreign policy which is far more important than domestic policy. Do you want Hillary or McCain being the Commander in Chief during the War on Terror?


151 posted on 01/27/2005 8:17:21 PM PST by My GOP
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To: COEXERJ145
I wonder how many of the members here who continually whine that Bush isn't conservative enough will pop into this thread and say they want Rice or Giuliani?

Not me. It's my opinion that Bush is anything but a conservative. No credible leader in this great country would *ever* allow this epic invasion of millions into our country to continue. He not only allows it to continue, he is aiding and abetting it by his lack of action and his disastrous plan of amnesty. Some estimates now have 20 million plus in our country illegally. If this doesn't wake up the GOP and this administration, they may as well declare them all dead.

152 posted on 01/27/2005 8:18:00 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (No more illegal alien sympathizers from Texas. America has one too many.)
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To: JeffersonRepublic.com
"Tom Ridge(pres)/ Mel Martinez(vp) I could back that ticket."

Martinez is ineligible for Vice President.
154 posted on 01/27/2005 8:20:03 PM PST by AVNevis (You are never too young to stand up for America)
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To: RWR8189

Pretty pathetic list. Of all of them, only Frist and Allen seem like possible winners. The rest are losers who will split the party on a national level. Thus, look for the media to get behind one of them.


155 posted on 01/27/2005 8:20:20 PM PST by Antoninus (In hoc sign, vinces †)
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To: ohiocreek

The big political change is coming my friend. They've done it to themselves.


157 posted on 01/27/2005 8:25:47 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (No more illegal alien sympathizers from Texas. America has one too many.)
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To: smonk
by that logic, though, vice presidents would never run for president, would they?

Usually, the Vice President of a second-term President is the obvious front-runner. The last Secretary of State to become President James Monroe, so it's obviously not a stepping stone to the presidency the way being Vice President is. It would be curious as to why Bush would want Rice to be his successor. She has never held elected office, not married and her views on social issues are ambigious.
158 posted on 01/27/2005 8:42:39 PM PST by JohnBDay
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To: JohnBDay
I pointed out rice's lack of elective experience somewhere upstream in this thread as well. we actually agree on the broader point of her possible candidacy. I just didn't completely understand your point.
159 posted on 01/27/2005 8:49:16 PM PST by smonk
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To: RWR8189

I don't think Obama will be on the ticket in 2008, but he is constitutionally eligible (born in the US), whereas Martinez is not (born in Cuba).


160 posted on 01/27/2005 9:06:24 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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