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And They're Off! (The 2008 GOP handicapping begins)
The Weekly Standard ^ | January 31, 2005 | Duncan Currie

Posted on 01/27/2005 6:50:53 PM PST by RWR8189

TOO EARLY FOR REPUBLICANS TO fret about 2008? Never! Before last week's inaugural fireworks had even been lit, the handicapping of 2008 Republican hopefuls was well underway. GOP sources slice the potential '08ers into an A-list and a B-list. Here's a quick roundup of who's where, as President Bush kicks off Act Two. First the A-listers:

* John McCain. To conservative eyes, the Arizona senator has a lengthy rap sheet. McCain championed campaign-finance reform. He piqued the Christian Right in 2000. He opposed Bush's 2001 and 2003 tax cuts. He supports embryonic stem-cell research. And he's backed a host of other media-friendly issues--anti-tobacco legislation, a patients' bill of rights, gun control, CO2 emissions caps--that conservatives spurn.

But after the 2004 election, McCain's star is rising. He campaigned robustly for President Bush. That helped quash the residual bitterness of 2000. Also, McCain gave a superb speech at the Republican convention, in which he made a cogent case for the Iraq war. Still, his maverick bent will prove a burden. McCain's other big minus? He turns 72 in 2008. His big plus? Thanks to his Vietnam heroism and crossover appeal, he's the candidate Democrats fear most.

* Rudy Giuliani. It's hard to gauge how badly the Bernard Kerik fiasco hurts Giuliani long-term. On the one hand, the ex-mayor remains wildly popular and can thrill Republican crowds. On the other, Rudy's rivals will no doubt hang Kerik around his neck (along with Giuliani's two divorces and marital infidelity). But leave Kerik aside. Giuliani's true Achilles' heel is his social liberalism. He supports abortion rights--even partial-birth--and same-sex marriage. Ditto gun control. To win a GOP primary, Rudy must pipe up about his conservative strengths, namely, fighting bad guys at home and abroad. For no matter how weak his hand might appear, Giuliani still holds two aces: his remarkable transformation of New York City and his post-9/11 resiliency.

Of course, as memories of 9/11 recede, so might Giuliani's stature as "America's mayor." He could always boost his stock with a successful Senate or gubernatorial bid in 2006. Rudy "will be an early frontrunner," says one GOP insider. But "ultimately, I don't think he gets nominated."

* Bill Frist. Unlike Giuliani's and McCain's, Frist's fortunes are partly tied to President Bush. As Senate majority leader, Frist will earn credit--or blame--based on how much of the Bush agenda he shepherds through. If Bush gets tax, Social Security, or tort reform, it will be a feather in Frist's cap. He has a two-year window. Self-term limited, Frist won't seek reelection in 2006.

The Tennessee senator projects an amiable, mild demeanor. But he is no moderate Republican. Certainly in a three-way Giuliani-McCain-Frist race, Frist would stand out as a staunch conservative. He would also be the GOP establishment's choice. Frist may lack the dynamism and perceived toughness of Giuliani and McCain. But post-2004 election, he sounds hardened, especially when talking judges.

* Mitt Romney. He could be the sleeper candidate. Of all the A-listers, Romney is the only governor. And historically, as conservative activist Grover Norquist points out, "governors trump senators." Many governors lack real homeland security credentials--but not Romney. He can tout his work as chief of the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympics. Nor is Romney a Massachusetts Republican in the William Weld mold. He's much more conservative, proposing hefty tax relief and bucking his state's highest court on same-sex marriage. Also, as a GOP insider notes, Romney is good on TV and "richer than Steve Forbes."

Romney's baggage? He's famously fuzzy on abortion. Primary voters won't like that. Then there's his faith. Will evangelical Christians pull the lever for a Mormon? An awkward question, but one Republicans have raised. Perhaps sensing this, Romney met with a gathering of evangelicals last week in Washington, before hosting a reception for Bay State natives serving in the Bush administration.

Now for the B-listers:

* Bill Owens. Colorado's governor once seemed a prime candidate. Conservatives loved him. He had taken on a bevy of Democratic interest groups and emerged triumphant. A September 2002 National Review cover story proclaimed Owens "America's Best Governor." Several months later, he pushed through a landmark school-voucher bill. Since then, however, Owens separated from his wife of almost 30 years. And in the 2004 election, Colorado Republicans took a thrashing, losing both houses of the state legislature. Owens can claim a slew of conservative feats. But he lacks a fundraising base, and his '08 prospects seem to be fading.

* Chuck Hagel. "Hagel has kind of fallen off the map," says a leading GOP strategist. Nebraska's maverick senator certainly strikes a unique pose. Hagel serves up red meat on abortion, taxes, guns, and spending, but also tends toward a dovish view of U.S. foreign policy. In 2002, he criticized Bush's "axis of evil" phrase as "name-calling" and rebuked the "rush to wage war" in Iraq. More recently, Hagel, a Vietnam vet, slammed Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld over the war's conduct. Such anti-Bush positions will hardly endear him to rank-and-file Republicans.

* George Allen. As one GOP insider puts it, Virginia's junior senator would be the "conservative's conservative" in the race, à la Phil Gramm in 1996. But whereas Gramm came across as a curmudgeon, Allen, 52, sports youthful good looks and an easygoing charm. He also boasts executive experience. Allen governed Virginia from 1994 to 1998. A reliable pro-life tax-cutter, he sits just to the right of George W. Bush. "Allen runs as Ronald Reagan," predicts Norquist.

* George Pataki. Not only is he the most liberal Republican in the '08 pool, Gov. Pataki also finds himself overshadowed by fellow New Yorker Rudy Giuliani. Pataki's only saving grace could be his home state. Were he able to deliver New York, that would cripple the Democrats. Otherwise, Pataki doesn't have much going for him.

This list is far from exhaustive. One of the most enticing--but very unlikely--candidates remains Dick Cheney. A few right-wingers have already pondered a quixotic "Draft Cheney" campaign, urging Bush's VP to throw his hat in the ring. Cheney has long disavowed any interest in the presidency. But with ample prodding, and a solid second term for Bush, who knows?

Then, of course, there's Florida governor Jeb Bush, whom the Economist calls "the best candidate by far." Jeb has publicly ruled out a White House bid in 2008. But his paper trail makes him a conservative glamour boy. The genial Jeb is a pro-life, pro-voucher, tax-slashing, budget-trimming Reaganite. Absent a marquee '08er, Republicans will look favorably on Gov. Bush--and wish he had a different last name.

 

Duncan Currie is an editorial assistant at The Weekly Standard.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008elections; 2008primary; allen; allen2008; electionpresident; frist; georgeallen; gopprimary; guiliani; hagel; mccain; owens; pataki; romney
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To: gjpino

Would you consider Senator George Allen? Remember he was ALSO Governor of Virginia and he's no RINO!


101 posted on 01/27/2005 7:37:47 PM PST by ncweaver
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To: oceanview

Wanna bet?


103 posted on 01/27/2005 7:39:42 PM PST by Registered (They couldn't find the artist, so they hung the picture)
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To: RWR8189

From that list, I'd vote for Allen. I also like Mark Sanford.


104 posted on 01/27/2005 7:39:45 PM PST by JohnBDay
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To: RWR8189
Of those listed, I'd back Allen(although I'm very leary about Senators), maybe Owens. I perfer Mark Sanford, and I've heard good things about Tim Pawlenty.

Frist is Bob Dole. Hagel is too tight with McStain.

Rudy is too leftist, as is Pataki.

And I would never ever ever ever ever vote for McCain, even with a gun pointed to my head. I'd be voting for a third party or writing in myself.

105 posted on 01/27/2005 7:41:35 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Check up, fatboy!" - Scott Skiles)
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To: RWR8189
Rudy Giussolini would be a disaster. The media loves him and McCain because they would bring the GOP to the left.

Besides, Rudy is the most OVERRATED politician in the USA. So, he's good on "law and order." Shouldn't that be a given for anyone?

Thankfully, Rudy is damaged goods, no matter how much the Murdoch Empire in NYC will push him.

107 posted on 01/27/2005 7:41:45 PM PST by Clemenza (I Am Here to Chew Bubblegum and Kick Ass, and I'm ALL OUT OF BUBBLEGUM!)
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To: All

BTW - Romney signed a gun ban. That disqualifies him in my book.


108 posted on 01/27/2005 7:42:15 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Check up, fatboy!" - Scott Skiles)
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To: RepublicanReptile
condi rice running for president isn't realistic. she has never held elective office of any kind, and the american public is very unlikely to bestow the presidency upon her as her first.

sorry. it's reality.

109 posted on 01/27/2005 7:42:21 PM PST by smonk
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To: RWR8189

Looks like a sleeper for Republicans in General. Mitt Romney or Johnny are the most likely to get elected, but I don't like John and Mitt's position on baby killing doesn't give me much of a reason to get off the couch.

Add Dr. Rice somewhere in the mix (VP), and I'd be running to support her. But, the Democrat Governor from New Mexico will be hard to beat.

Holtz
JeffersonRepublic.com


110 posted on 01/27/2005 7:42:47 PM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com (The 51st state is right around the corner.)
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To: oceanview
Jeb isn't going to waste his chance by running in 2008 - he understands the dynasty thing.

he will run against Hillary in 2012, or in 2016 if a republican wins.

Agreed. I actually think if anything, he should run against Bill Nelson for the Senate in 2006, and wait for his turn. Right now, I'm thinking George Allen is the one to keep an eye on. At least you know he won't confuse Lambeau Field for Lambert Field, or the Michigan Buckeyes like a certain Ketchup Boy did last year. ;^)

111 posted on 01/27/2005 7:43:17 PM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore) ("Oh no, not Hans Brix!")
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To: RepublicanReptile

Dr. Rice isn't presidential material, not in 2008 anyway.

This is a pretty weak list - Rudy is the standout in my book.


112 posted on 01/27/2005 7:43:18 PM PST by HitmanLV (HitmanNY has a brand new Blog!! Please Visit! - http://www.goldust.com/weblog -)
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To: RWR8189

Yes, Ford was in the House but he was NEVER elected. Nixon
had no V.P. because Spiro Agnew had to resign because as
GOVERNOR of Maryland he was involved in scandals. For
those who are enamoured of governors I would remind them
of Jimmy "the failure" Carter and Bill "the rapist"
Clinton. Personally, I think it's absurd to start speculating about '08. We havn't even reached the mid-term
election of '06 which could change things dramatically.
The old adage that "a year in politics is an eternity"
holds true. I think the Weekly Standard and other media
could spend time better on a thousand other more pressing
and important issues. And polls show that most Americans
are SICK to death of presidential politics. And right
now that includes me!


113 posted on 01/27/2005 7:43:57 PM PST by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: ohiocreek
TANCREDO 2008

In your dreams. Lets just vote in Hillary right now and be done with it as Tancredo will turn off the majority of Americans who will either not vote or not cast a vote for President. Tancredo is nothing but Hillary's ticket to the White House in 2008.

114 posted on 01/27/2005 7:44:13 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: ncweaver

Sitting Senators rarely win Presidential races...maybe if he went into an executive type position b/w now and 2008.

Owens was my favorite a few months ago, but not now...


115 posted on 01/27/2005 7:44:42 PM PST by gjpino (FReeper AKA Guillermo)
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To: RepublicanReptile

Condi Rice?
And please, let's not count out Jeb Bush. I'd write him in! Whatever it takes for a Bush in 08.


116 posted on 01/27/2005 7:45:32 PM PST by mowkeka
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To: Sonny M

I don't think outside of Nixon, anyone after has ever held a senate seat and eventually gone to the white house.

I belive there has only been four Nixon, LBJ, JFK and
who ??

Allen/Rice or Rice/Allen


117 posted on 01/27/2005 7:45:35 PM PST by SAWTEX
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To: gjpino

Allen's term as governor of Virginia kind of negates that, does it not?


118 posted on 01/27/2005 7:46:06 PM PST by RWR8189 (Its Morning in America Again!)
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To: hchutch

I sure wish Jeb would run! Bush/Rice would be a great team!


119 posted on 01/27/2005 7:46:10 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: feedback doctor
I don't expect Sanford to get more than 65% of the vote in 06 in SC. Don't expect him to get less than 63%.

I'd say it's virtually impossible for Sanford to get 60%. South Carolina's population is 30% African-American. If 90% of them for the Democrat, Sanford would need to get around 85% of white voters to get 60%.
120 posted on 01/27/2005 7:46:39 PM PST by JohnBDay
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