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You have inadvertently, I think, stumbled onto the truth. You and the compromisers are interested in governing the State. I'm interested in dismantling the government.

What exactly about caving in to the PC gestapo indicates being grown up? I would think standing up for what you believe in the face of the withering PC assault would indicate maturity and the courage of ones convictions.

Well, Red, I guess you're right. It seems we are at odds yet again. I fall into Jefferson's camp on this one. I see government as a necessary evil that should be constrained by our Constitution, the rule of law, and a system of checks and balances. As I am not an anarchist, I am not interested in dismantling the government. You have me pegged on that one. Chaos really doesn't interest me. Nor does the power vacuum that would occur if the government was dismantled. That's an invitation for tyranny. But that and my stance on the lottery are issues for another day and time, this thread is about the flag, and I'd like to stay on topic.

Again, I don't see my position as caving in to the PC gestapo. I simply believe that what you want the flag to symbolize differs greatly from what is actually the perception of others, and in that case, it's a poor form of expression. If I was caving in to the PC gestapo, I would attack you for expressing pride in being Southern at all, and that is most decidedly not my position. And while there is lots of talk about caving in to the PC gestapo, I believe the truculence exhibited by most supporters of flag makes them equally guilty of the censorship they claim to be fighting. You cannot make a reasoned argument against the flag without being called "an anti-Southern bigot", "Yankee", "snivelling coward" or much worse. Perhaps you should consider for a moment that my convictions, and others who happen to agree with me on this issue, are every bit as strong as yours.

At this point, I believe we have both made our points and are now talking in circles on this issue. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this, but I do wish you well, however misguided I might believe you to be. :-)