Hil vs. Pirro in '06? - GOPers eager for DA to run

New York Daily News ^ | 1/27/06 | JOE MAHONEY

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

Perhaps the word "marginal" is in the eye of the beholder.

Giuliani-purely on reputation alone-would garner an additional three or four percent of the NYC vote, which would have otherwise gone to the Democratic inumbent.

However, I don't see how Giuliani would be able to make a significant dent in the three quarters margin of victory that is routinely delivered to the Dem. nominee in that bastion of intransigent liberalism.

Municipal and state elections are wholly distinct from national elections.

To presume that prospective New York City voters are going to cast their ballots for Rudy, simply because they may have appreciated his remarkably successful tenure as mayor of the city, is an astounding leap in logic.

I refer you to the precedent of Ben Nelson, Tony Knowles, William Weld, Jeanne Shaheen and a host of other incredibly popular pols who ran quixotic U.S. Senate campaigns, only one of whom succeeded in this seemingly futile endeavor.

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

You completely misconstrued my point.

I agree with your remarks about Schumer, namely, that the state Republican Party fell down on the job when they refused to recruit a legitimate, viable opponent to run against him in this past election.

However, to claim that HRC is somehow more politically adept than the senior senator from our state is a statement that is demonstrably false.

It is the equivalent of a ringside analyst making the assertion that a particular boxer can't beat Lennox Lewis, therefore, he should forget about challenging Vitaly Klitchko.

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

COMMUNISTS FOR (K)LINTON!

[Dahoser]

She's the odds-on favorite for the RAT nomination in '08. She gets fawning press wherever she goes including the Sunday morning news shows. This despite being up to her ears in corruption of her own let alone her husband's. Going against her is easier than Schumer? Only in the respect that the rest of hate her so much that we'd be more involed.

In the end, we agree about the NY Republicans and that's the issue. They'd have a lot more credibility in saying they can take down Hellary if they'd made an attempt to go after Chucky Cheese. And pushed Joe Bruno into retirement.

I would shy away from boxing analogies, though. Styles really wreak havoc with the transitive property there. George Foreman destroyed both Joe Frazier and Ken Norton in 2 brutal rounds, but he got rope-a-doped onto the canvas in 8 by Ali, who in turn was beaten all three times by Norton whether the judges said it or not, and, of course, the 3 classic bouts with Frazier. One beating the other meant very little among those guys.

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

Even though I admire Ken Norton more than Ali-in almost every respect-I can't agree with your assertion that he beat him in all three of their bouts.

In fact, in the most notorious of their encounters-where Ali had his jaw broken-I think that Cassius Clay should have been awarded the fight based purely upon his endurance.

I don't believe that you can trivialize the "sweet science" by reducing it to its most fundamental constituent parts, in this case, who landed more blows on a given night.

That's why, in my opinion, men like Jerry Quarry and Chuck Wepner will always be held in greater esteem among boxing enthusiasts than some of heavyweights who succeeded them, eventually winning the championship belts that eluded both fighters.

Your point about Bruno is a valid one.

I think that it's time for another legislative coup. Except this time, one that is not stage-managed by Gov. Pataki, who is another burden standing in the way of Republicans future success in this state.

[Alberta's Child]

I've read that both Pataki and Giuliani have 2008 presidential aspirations.

I can't imagine why either one of them has such aspirations, since they don't have a chance in hell of winning even the GOP nomination.

[Alberta's Child]

One of the major selling points for us is that we ARE a big tent party, with no social litmus test to ensure lockstep allegiance from our members on every issue of our hearts (such as in the all-extreme-left, all-the-time modern Democrat party, which has punished Joe Lieberman for his pro-Iraq war beliefs and punished the late Bob Casey for his pro-life beliefs).

These political parties can get away with this kind of crap because they are dealing with people who are basically unprincipled @ssholes themselves. With all due respect to the late Bob Casey, he was an unprincipled @sshole when it came to that disgraceful episode. If I had been in his shoes and the Democrats had refused to let me speak at the Democrat Convention in 1992, I would have gotten a prime-time speaking slot at the convention anyway -- the Republican one. Imagine what a difference that could make in a tight presidential election -- the popular Democrat governor of Pennsylvania endorses the GOP candidate for president.

Oddly enough, this is exactly what happened a couple of years later in Alabama. Richard Shelby was a Democratic Senator who stood by his principles and was one of the few Democrats to vote against Clinton's 1993 tax hikes. The Clinton administration punished him by having NASA drop their plans to build some kind of research facility in Alabama, so he basically told them to "F#ck off."

And "F#ck off" they did . . . Shelby's been a GOP senator ever since.

[Alberta's Child]

A Roman Catholic, pro-life, tough Law and Order Republican . . .

You might want to confirm that. Even Mike Long says she is pro-choice.

[Coleus]

That would be a good bumper sticker

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

http://communistsforkerry.com/

[alwaysconservative]

You are SUCH a blessing with your talent (and you've captured sHrillary's new "Stepford" persona perfectly, LOL!)

[SunkenCiv]

a search for "Hillary", done mostly to find out more about her collapse during a speech. Any health problem, or any doubts about her health, will be damaging to Hitlery's career:

Google

[SunkenCiv]

Ping!

[TexKat]

Bump

[Mia T]

BEAUTY AND THE HILDABEAST

• JEANINE PIRRO: 30-year career fighting for the abused woman
• HILLARY CLINTON: 30-year career abusing women
  
  

also: THE JEANINE PIRRO--HILLARY CLINTON VIRTUAL MATCHUP

 

But not all Republicans are helping Hillary. In New York state, Westchester County District Attorney Jeanine Pirro seems to be getting closer to running against her in the 2006 race for the Senate. Pirro has to be Hillary's worst nightmare. She is a pro-choice woman who even backs Medicaid funding for abortion and a supporter of gun control, affirmative action and gay civil unions.

But Pirro is no Democrat. She strongly supports the Patriot Act, making the Bush tax cuts permanent and the diversion of Social Security tax revenues into private investment accounts. She has a tough-on-crime image from her constant appearances on New York City television, with a particular focus on family-values issues such as pedophilia and Internet pornography.

Hillary has always thrived off right-wing challengers who flunk the litmus tests imposed by New York's liberal electorate. But, in Pirro, she has met someone whom she can't browbeat over abortion or the usual Democratic issues.

Clinton is especially vulnerable to Pirro because Hillary can't pledge to serve out her term if she is reelected. Polls show that her refusal to do so strikes New Yorkers very badly. Having extended the welcome mat to this carpetbagger and taken her at her word that she wanted to be part of the Big Apple, they feel they are being treated like doormats in reelecting someone who will obviously begin to miss votes and focus all her energy on running for president as soon as she is reelected.

If Pirro attracts the massive national funding she is likely to get, she can wage a very strong race against Hillary. My bet is that Clinton thinks the better of it and drops out of the race if Pirro comes on strong. Why should she risk the presidency -- and have to spend $20 million -- just to get reelected to her old job?

And … if Hillary drops out after Pirro has built up a head of steam, it could give the GOP a Senate seat in the most unlikely of places -- Clinton's back yard.

Helping Hillary Now Will Hurt The Republicans Later
The Hill | 6/27/05 | Dick Morris

 

[Mia T]

Before I address Pirro, I would like to thank you for all you have done to protect liberty, this country, and all of us.

Let's keep
a running list
on this thread
of the
carrying-hillary's-
anti-Pirro-water club.

Let's prove
what Andrea Mitchell
merely
suggested
last Sunday,
namely,
that the difference
between
useful idiot
and
purveyor of
access journalism
is
academic.

My overarching point: Pirro can beat hillary. Cox cannot. This race transcends ideology. This race is about stopping the dangerous, inept, corrupt, self-serving, clueless clintons from ever again retaking the White House. Surely you cannot be against that goal.

That said, this line of attack is getting tired. It's really just a restatement by NY republicans and/or conservatives of clinton-machine talking point #2, i.e.,

Jeanine Pirro is married to the Mob. Worse, the wise guy was nailed: The absurdity here is self-evident.
One thing the clinton machine does have right:
Al is no bill.

For details, see
ANDREA MITCHELL CARRIES OBLIGATORY ANTI-JEANINE WATER FOR HILLARY CLINTON

As for Harry Smith's 'elephant in the room' formulation, nothing rivals the elephants in the Hildabeast's living room.

• What Bush 41 knew in 1992
• What every congressman and senator knew in 1998
• What everyone knows today

We used to execute rapists and traitors. Today we elect them president?

 

Jeanine is no hillary, either.

Pirro will support:

• Bush's national security and war-on-terror agendas
• Bush's judicial nominations, which is where the real leverage is on the abortion issue--NB pro-lifers!
• Bush's fiscal policies

So there is every difference in the world between Pirro and clinton.

And this doesn't begin to discuss hillary clinton's corruption, betrayal and ineptitude. Or the rapes and other predation.

Let us not forget that it was hillary clinton who hired Jamie Gorelick. Gorelick proceeded to do hillary clinton's bidding, which undermined the national security and was the efficient cause of 9/11.

Why hillary clinton should never be allowed anywhere near the Oval Office... or any position of power--THE SERIES
REASON 1: MISSUS CLINTON HIRED JAMIE GORELICK

WHY DID BILL CLINTON IGNORE TERRORISM?
Was it simply the constraints of his liberal mindset, or was it something even more threatening to our national security?

"While the Republicans are (place some nasty verb here), a clinton is working hard for the people"

 

The contrast between these two women could not be more stark.

BEAUTY AND THE HILDABEAST

• JEANINE PIRRO: 30-year career fighting for the abused woman
• HILLARY CLINTON: 30-year career abusing women

 

JEANINE PIRRO: 30-year career fighting for the abused woman

 
(viewing movie requires Flash Player 7, available HERE)

New York, New York -- if hillary can't make it there, she can't make it anywhere

 

HILLARY DUD -- NOT DUFF -- PORTENDS JEANINE WIN

 

"Married to the Mob" and other stop-Jeanine sillygisms

 

 

 

 

[chronic_loser]

Don't you have a PEROT for PRESIDENT rally to organize or something?

[Radioactive]

Help me here.

Did I post anything in this thread?

I don't know why you posted this to me but OKAY.......No I don't like Perot and never have.