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To: LibertarianInExile
Somehow that's supposed to make this fake relic...

You've obviously devoted several minutes to studying the Shroud so, as an expert, I'd appreciate it if you could explain to me how the forger matched the blood type (AB) on the Shroud to the Sudarium of Oviedo and the Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano, considering that type AB blood occurs in 3% of the population, and that a medieval forger did not know of the existence of blood types.

And while you're at it, maybe you could explain to us how the medieval forger created his forgery?

280 posted on 01/28/2005 5:14:45 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan
considering that type AB blood occurs in 3% of the population, and that a medieval forger did not know of the existence of blood types.

Just to be intellectually fair to the other side, Aquinas, the blood samples could all have come from the same forger. But then that leaves open the necessity for further explanations as in my earlier posts, such as how the forgeries were planned and logistically effectuated.

And I have not studied any of these matters enough to even guess at the difficulties involved.

But it would be nice to find scientific skeptics being as critical of bad logic and/or bad science while advancing the notion of forgery, as they are while attacking defenders of the relics.

[Full Disclosure: What I'm trying to say is, slam ALL practitioners of bad science and logic equally.]

Cheers!

291 posted on 01/28/2005 8:31:56 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Aquinasfan
Never heard of the Miracle of Lanciano until you posted that link. Amazing stuff. Did a google search and found some sites that have more info on the scientific analysis and present condition of the Eucharist elements. WOW!
300 posted on 01/28/2005 10:29:24 AM PST by Semaphore Heathcliffe
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To: Aquinasfan

While I am somewhat skeptical of Orthodox and Catholic "miracles" attributed to the bodies of the 'Saints' and 'Marian' visions, if true as the article indicates, the appearance of the AB blood type in the 'Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano' in the 8th century is indeed eerie, given what we know about the Suderium and the Mandylion (aka Shroud).

Little doubt that Jesus had Type AB blood, or what he looked like to those with an open mind.


304 posted on 01/28/2005 11:43:45 AM PST by Al Simmons (Proudly Voted for Dubya 4 Times.)
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