Shroud of Turin: Old as Jesus?

THE NEW YORK TIMES ^ | January 27, 2005 | NA

[neverdem]

The Shroud of Turin is much older than the medieval date that modern science has affixed to it and could be old enough to have been the burial wrapping of Jesus, a new analysis concludes.

Since 1988, most scientists have confidently concluded that it was the work of a medieval artist, because carbon dating had placed the production of the fabric between 1260 and 1390.

In an article this month in the journal Thermochimica Acta, Dr. Raymond N. Rogers, a chemist retired from Los Alamos National Laboratory, said the carbon dating test was valid but that the piece tested was about the size of a postage stamp and came from a portion that had been patched.

"We're darned sure that part of the cloth was not original Shroud of Turin cloth," he said, adding that threads from the main part of the shroud were pure linen, which is spun from flax.

The threads in the patched portion contained cotton as well and had been dyed to match.

From other tests, he estimated that the shroud was between 1,300 and 3,000 years old.

[maestro]

:-)

.....see post # 125.....

Silly,.....Jesus is Eternal 'Jah' (Jehovah).....God the Son....

Go read some theology books on the 'filique'........

There NEVER was a time when JESUS (JAH) Was NOT!

Jesus the Eternal!

:-)

[evets]

Swaddling cloths of Turin!!!

[maestro]

:-)

[Romulus]

You guys know where I can get some books about the "filique"?

[Remole]

YOu keep admonishing people to read theology books on the "filioque." But the "filioque" has to do with the procession of the holy Spirit in the Trinity, not with the Incarnation. But since you recommend books, let me recommend Jean Galot, Who is Christ?

[Romulus]

There NEVER was a time when Jesus-the SON was NOT!

Where was Jesus 12 months before he was born?

[RobbyS]

A small question" HOW could it be faked? So far no one has been able to replicate the shroud. Even a medieval artist armed with en camera techniques. would have also have to be armed with techniques we don't know about in order to make something like this.

[maestro]

Where was Jesus 12 months before he was born?

Exactly!

Jesus is Eternal!

There NEVER was a time when Jesus-the SON was NOT!

:-)

[eastsider]

No, but if you hum a few bars, I can fake it ...

[Romulus]

So where was he then?

And while we're at this exercise: where was Jesus on the first day of creation -- before man had been formed?

[Ciexyz]

ping

[maestro]

Exactly!

Jesus is Eternal!

There NEVER was a time when Jesus-the SON was NOT!

:-)

[Romulus]

How do you know this?

[Ciexyz]

ping

[eastsider]

See post #125 ...

[Remole]

You know, the likes of you must belong to one of the "Club of Queer Trades," a book of detective stories written by GK Chesterton. You must belong to the Club of people who disrupt a chat room by posing questions that seem just close to legitimate but that are in essence illogical or based on ignorance. For a while I took you seriously, and took seriously my determination to lead people to a deeper understanding of the truth regarding the Christian faith; and then I looked more closely, and I noted the spelling of "filique," and realized that I had been had.

Go to another thread, Satana.

[maestro]

Jesus has His Father's Name.

[Romulus]

Don't mess with me. I know where you live. :D

[frgoff]

I thought the movie, CONTACT, itself was strangely defending religious experience against the reductionism of science.

It seemed to be doing so, but, of course, in a totally stupid and poorly written way because there was empirical evidence for the journey she took in the length of the recording she made.

[Romulus]

How do you know this?