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Foreign secretary says Mexico may ask international courts to block Proposition 200
sfgate ^ | Jan. 26, 2005 | Associated Press

Posted on 01/26/2005 2:37:53 PM PST by VU4G10

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To: Lloyd227

This is getting serious! Mexico is trying to tell us(America) How we should run are country? Mexico wents to invade us with there poor? In Bush is selling out are country. I have lost alot of my respect for the President because of this. He is allowing Mexico to $%#% in the #%%#. 100 years ago this would mean war!!!

I thought Bush was the good guy :(


101 posted on 01/26/2005 6:20:50 PM PST by Freerepublic_Rules555
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To: Libertina; TexasCowboy; Squantos; Happy2BMe
>>Excuse me, this is a sovereign country. <<

a package of 34 treaties, all of which were ratified by a show of hands -- no recorded vote.

ARE YOU 100%POSITIVE WE ARE A SOVEREIGN COUNTRY?

102 posted on 01/26/2005 6:23:06 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: technomage
edit...

I have Mexican-American friends that feel the same way.

103 posted on 01/26/2005 6:43:52 PM PST by 1_Inch_Group
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To: Freerepublic_Rules555
I thought Bush was the good guy :(

Good Morning!

Check my homepage...hope you're in California. There's not enough people waking up here yet.

104 posted on 01/26/2005 6:45:55 PM PST by 1_Inch_Group
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To: 1_Inch_Group; Heartland Hattie; B4Ranch; All

Aired tonight;

CNN/LOU DOBBS

PILGRIM: The president's proposal was critiqued by Representative James Sensenbrenner, who says it lacks detail. Sensenbrenner's own plan toughens standards for issuing driver's licenses to what he calls foreign visitors; aliens must prove that they are here lawfully; the license would expire when their visa does; and the bill also calls for closing a three-mile hole in the U.S.- Mexican border fence.

REP. JAMES SENSENBRENNER (R), CHAIRMAN, JUDICIARY COMMITTEE: American citizens have a right to know who is in their country, that people are who they say they are and that the name on the driver's license is the real holder's name, not some alias.

PILGRIM: Sensenbrenner pointed out that Mohammad Atta, a 9/11 terrorist, received a six-month visa to stay in the United States, yet received a Florida driver's license good for six years. The Sensenbrenner proposal already has political battle scars when it originally was part of the intelligence bill last December.

Today, attacked by Democrats on the hill, Congresswoman Jane Harman today issued a statement saying the laws call for states to provide tamper-proof driver's licenses. She said the Sensenbrenner proposal will not make Americans safer. She also criticized President Bush for not demanding full funding for 10,000 border guards called for in the intelligence reform bill.

Sensenbrenner today rallied against that attack saying the current bill is bipartisan with 115 co-sponsors.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

PILGRIM: The Sensenbrenner bill also takes issue with the system where immigrants seek asylum. He says it's abused by terrorists, and he wants to allow immigration judges to determine the credibility in asylum cases so terrorists cannot get into the country on false pretexts -- Lou.

DOBBS: You know, we've reached a great point in this country, when there is a debate even over whether or not people who are not citizens of this country can receive a driver's license, let alone whether they're illegal or not, and the very idea that a president could be talking about immigration reform, but his Homeland Security secretary is saying, well, we can't really be bothered with adding another 2,000 Border Patrol agents to 2,000- or 3,000-mile the border.

PILGRIM: The good part of this is everyone is calling attention to it as much as they can, and it's very, very visible now, the gaps in the system -- Lou.

DOBBS: And our sense of absurdity is being overwhelmed, as it often is in Washington, D.C., and, hopefully, a few people's sense of alarm as well.

That brings us to the subject of our poll tonight: Do you support Congressman Sensenbrenner's bill to stop illegal aliens and potential terrorists from obtaining driver's licenses in this country? Yes or no. We ask that you vote at loudobbs.com. We'll have the results for you later in the broadcast.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0501/26/ldt.01.html
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105 posted on 01/26/2005 6:53:55 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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To: Happy2BMe

You're the greatest! :)

I've gotta hit the rack. We've got an election-sprint ahead...


106 posted on 01/26/2005 7:08:02 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (Pray for the Lord's hand in the Iraqi elections (& I ain't talkin bout the dead terrorist pedophile))
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To: B4Ranch

Well, actually I'm not. I keep living my life as if we are, but who knows what our "representative" officials have done. Frankly, I am afraid to go to your link :(


107 posted on 01/26/2005 7:12:31 PM PST by Libertina (CPAC here we come!)
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To: B4Ranch

ARE YOU 100%POSITIVE WE ARE A SOVEREIGN COUNTRY?

>>>

Well, he**, you know we aren't.

It's just waking up the sheeple before the frog is slow-cooked to it's death...outside of catastrophe or mass-awakening, no one in government at the HIGHEST FREAKING LEVELS has an America-First agenda that I can see. Bits and pieces, a facade, yes. But glaringly disgusting globalist sell-outs run DC and the world. Still we fight the good fights.

G'night...


108 posted on 01/26/2005 7:14:10 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (Pray for the Lord's hand in the Iraqi elections (& I ain't talkin bout the dead terrorist pedophile))
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To: B4Ranch

BTW Henry Lamb is one of the greats on the UN shenanigans. B4Ranch, do you read/get Eco-logic Power House Magazine?


109 posted on 01/26/2005 7:14:43 PM PST by Libertina (CPAC here we come!)
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To: gubamyster
Hey Mr.Foreign secretary.

Is it true that you said Mexico may ask international courts to block Arizona's Proposition 200?

Yes!

Well,......


110 posted on 01/26/2005 7:29:12 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: VU4G10
What? An international court will rule that American taxpayers hand over money and services to Mexican citizens living illegally in the United States?

Why not just cut out the middleman and rule that the United States turn over its treasury to Mexico and let the people stay home?

-PJ

111 posted on 01/26/2005 7:30:48 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: B4Ranch
"Withdrawal from the treaty cannot even begin until after three years of participation -- and then another year must pass before withdrawal is recognized by the U.N. -- assuming, of course, that there is some desire in the Senate to withdraw."

=======================================

There is something about a poltician who will only vote for a 'show-of-hands.'

But aren't even the 'show-of-hands' and the 'verbal-only' votes recorded somewhere as to who is voting for what?

(I guess I answered my own question - NO.)

112 posted on 01/26/2005 7:31:31 PM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything If the imams can't control it - they will kill it.)
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To: ApesForEvolution; Libertina; All; SandRat; Happy2BMe

Aired 1/26/05 LOU DOBBS, CNN -- A BILL HAS BEEN INTRODUCED IN THE HOUSE

PILGRIM: The president's proposal was critiqued by Representative James Sensenbrenner, who says it lacks detail. Sensenbrenner's own plan toughens standards for issuing driver's licenses to what he calls foreign visitors; aliens must prove that they are here lawfully; the license would expire when their visa does; and the bill also calls for closing a three-mile hole in the U.S.- Mexican border fence.

REP. JAMES SENSENBRENNER (R), CHAIRMAN, JUDICIARY COMMITTEE: American citizens have a right to know who is in their country, that people are who they say they are and that the name on the driver's license is the real holder's name, not some alias.

PILGRIM: Sensenbrenner pointed out that Mohammad Atta, a 9/11 terrorist, received a six-month visa to stay in the United States, yet received a Florida driver's license good for six years. The Sensenbrenner proposal already has political battle scars when it originally was part of the intelligence bill last December.

Today, attacked by Democrats on the hill, Congresswoman Jane Harman today issued a statement saying the laws call for states to provide tamper-proof driver's licenses. She said the Sensenbrenner proposal will not make Americans safer. She also criticized President Bush for not demanding full funding for 10,000 border guards called for in the intelligence reform bill.

Sensenbrenner today rallied against that attack saying the current bill is bipartisan with 115 co-sponsors.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

PILGRIM: The Sensenbrenner bill also takes issue with the system where immigrants seek asylum. He says it's abused by terrorists, and he wants to allow immigration judges to determine the credibility in asylum cases so terrorists cannot get into the country on false pretexts -- Lou.

DOBBS: You know, we've reached a great point in this country, when there is a debate even over whether or not people who are not citizens of this country can receive a driver's license, let alone whether they're illegal or not, and the very idea that a president could be talking about immigration reform, but his Homeland Security secretary is saying, well, we can't really be bothered with adding another 2,000 Border Patrol agents to 2,000- or 3,000-mile the border.

PILGRIM: The good part of this is everyone is calling attention to it as much as they can, and it's very, very visible now, the gaps in the system -- Lou.

DOBBS: And our sense of absurdity is being overwhelmed, as it often is in Washington, D.C., and, hopefully, a few people's sense of alarm as well.

That brings us to the subject of our poll tonight: Do you support Congressman Sensenbrenner's bill to stop illegal aliens and potential terrorists from obtaining driver's licenses in this country? Yes or no. We ask that you vote at loudobbs.com. We'll have the results for you later in the broadcast.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0501/26/ldt.01.html

Do you support Rep. Sensenbrenner's bill to stop illegal aliens and potential terrorists from obtaining driver's licenses in the United States?

Yes 93% 3353 votes

No 7% 264 votes

Total: 3617 votes



113 posted on 01/26/2005 7:35:56 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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To: VU4G10

Time to invade Mexico.


114 posted on 01/26/2005 7:36:11 PM PST by MegaSilver
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To: ozarkgirl
I don't know what hold they have over Bush

That's the same thing I keep asking myself. Whatever it is, it must be juicy.

115 posted on 01/26/2005 7:43:00 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Libertina
GW Bush needs to give them one. Soon

He will, soon as he finishes kissing their a$$es!

Why this man is so sweet on Fox and the illegals totally mystifies me!!!

116 posted on 01/26/2005 7:44:39 PM PST by America's Resolve (awarforeurabia.blogspot.com - Watching the war for Europe)
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To: VU4G10

"Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez said Wednesday. He said in a radio interview that Mexico might take such a step after it has exhausted all possibilities under U.S. law to halt Proposition 200."

Hey, Don Derbez, how many fingers am I holding up?? I'll give you a hint - its more than none and less than two.

I really think we should re-enact Molina Del Rey.


117 posted on 01/26/2005 7:49:18 PM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: VU4G10

Mexico will have to sue ALL countries. The USA is a pushover compared to others.

In other countries you can't even get a telephone without a legal national id/residence card.


118 posted on 01/26/2005 7:50:45 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: America's Resolve

Perhaps because his brother is married to a woman from South America. Or has confused this amnesty with Christian precepts. I don't know. Is it Christian to knowingly bring down your country and culture? Or is it to be overlooked by saying that you are helping the "poor." Interesting question.


119 posted on 01/26/2005 7:52:15 PM PST by Libertina (CPAC here we come!)
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To: Libertina

Yes, of course I do. Henry Lamb tells me where to look when I need something about the UN. A great man who's always willing to give a hand to researchers.


120 posted on 01/26/2005 8:04:59 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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