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To: Modernman
We live in a society where people who engage in sociopathic, violent behavior tend to have the full force of the law dropped on them. That's an example of co-operation:

That only by virtue of having bigger guns you can force people to cooperate with you? And your label of sociopaths may make you feel superior to them, but it doesn't fool me. They don't agree with your version of society? You don't agree with theirs. Why are they the sociopaths and not you?

As I said, it doesn't matter whether you call them your homeys or your police department, having stronger thugs on your side is the way you survive. If the police were on their side you WOULD be the sociopath by definition.

The fullest evidence that Darwin is against our social structure is that all similar structures in the animal kingdom are also maintained by force. The strong survive and the strong should survive. Only when the girlie-men of western civilization understand this will we be able to guarantee our survival against the barbaric forces arrayed against us. But I doubt we will. Greater civilizations than ours have fallen into that same feel good trap.

Shalom.

548 posted on 01/27/2005 10:21:32 AM PST by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: ArGee
That only by virtue of having bigger guns you can force people to cooperate with you?

Those of us who do not want to rape, murder and plunder have co-operated to create a society where murderers, rapists and thieves get squashed. Rather than setting up a society where the law of the jungle rules and its every man for himself, we have co-operated to increase the safety of all.

And your label of sociopaths may make you feel superior to them, but it doesn't fool me. They don't agree with your version of society? You don't agree with theirs. Why are they the sociopaths and not you?

Because the majority backs my view of society over theirs'.

The strong survive and the strong should survive.

Explain Stephen Hawking then, or Bill Gates. Being a mindless thug, no matter how strong, is not a particularly effective way to survive in our society. Similarly, if we're talking about nations, being an aggressor is usually a very good way to make all other nations gang up on you.

579 posted on 01/27/2005 11:12:58 AM PST by Modernman (What is moral is what you feel good after. - Ernest Hemingway)
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