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Schroeder condemns Holocaust walkout (German MPs walk out during moment of silence)
abc.net.au ^ | Tuesday, January 25, 2005. 8:13am (AEDT) | Fran Kelly

Posted on 01/25/2005 12:18:16 PM PST by Destro

Last Update: Tuesday, January 25, 2005. 8:13am (AEDT)

Schroeder condemns Holocaust walkout

By Europe correspondent Fran Kelly

German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder has condemned members of a far right political party who walked out during a minute's silence last week for the victims of the Holocaust.

The NPD politicians refused to honour the millions killed by the Nazis, insisting any commemoration of World War II should also recognise the allied destruction of Dresden, which they described as a "bombing holocaust".

But in a speech later today, on the eve of the 60th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz, Mr Schroeder will express his shame for the murders and suffering in Auschwitz and warns his nation to be vigilant against the far right threat.

He says "the evil of the Holocaust can't be blamed solely on that demon Hitler, ordinary people empowered the Nazis".

The Presidents of Poland, Russia, Israel and Germany are among those attending Thursday's ceremony at the former concentration camp.

Six million Jews and millions of others including gypsies, Poles and Russians were exterminated by the Nazis.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antisemitisim; holocaust; npd
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1 posted on 01/25/2005 12:18:17 PM PST by Destro
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To: jb6

bump - somehow this won't get as much hits as the story of themuch smaller extremist fringe group from Russia did I am betting.


2 posted on 01/25/2005 12:19:53 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro

Fourth Riech indeed


3 posted on 01/25/2005 12:20:28 PM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: Destro
I could somewhat understand a position that the Germans alive today should not forever flagellate themselves for what Germany did in WWII. But to object to a moment of silence for the Holocaust because Dresden wasn't mentioned is inexcusable.

Fortunately, though, that's "Old Europe".

4 posted on 01/25/2005 12:21:43 PM PST by XJarhead
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To: Destro

How many moments of silence are being observed anywhere for the tens of millions killed by Communism?


5 posted on 01/25/2005 12:21:49 PM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: Destro

While Schroeder is about the well-justified business of apologies, he can apologize to the United States and our people for being part of the Euroweenie cabal to keep Sodamn Insane in power (complete with details as to his government leaders' personal profits from such schemes as Oil for Food).


6 posted on 01/25/2005 12:22:22 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Destro

While Schroeder is about the well-justified business of apologies, he can apologize to the United States and our people for being part of the Euroweenie cabal to keep Sodamn Insane in power (complete with details as to his government leaders' personal profits from such schemes as Oil for Food).


7 posted on 01/25/2005 12:23:00 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Destro

Damn jews - still causing those poor misunderstood Nazis trouble - even today. In another generation or so German history will be re-written with the Nazi's as the victims. Besides, it was all Bush's fault.


8 posted on 01/25/2005 12:23:36 PM PST by RtWngr (Being tolerant of the intolerant is pretty stupid actually.)
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To: Destro

"Schroeder has condemned members of a far right political party"

Far right? Ineresting. Over here is is the far left that hates the jews and loves the islamists. Confusing, isn't it? See how hating Bush just messes up the natural order of things?


9 posted on 01/25/2005 12:26:42 PM PST by RtWngr (Being tolerant of the intolerant is pretty stupid actually.)
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To: Destro

On the one hand, the fact that Nazis still exist in Germany is disgusting. On the other hand, the fact that the allies gave a pass to Nazis elsewhere (as well as totalitarians in general, elsewhere) at the end of WW2 and after, is also disgusting. It's all disgusting.


10 posted on 01/25/2005 12:27:42 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Destro
The NPD politicians refused to honour the millions killed by the Nazis, insisting any commemoration of World War II should also recognise the allied destruction of Dresden, which they described as a "bombing holocaust".

Should it also include the survivors of the London Blitz, the Warsaw bombings, Amsterdam, etc? The list of German bombing targets goes on and on, and this doesn't even include the V1 and V2 attacks.

It is amazing for Schroeder, but he's doing the right thing, and condemning the extremist morons that walked out.

11 posted on 01/25/2005 12:27:46 PM PST by xJones
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To: Thorin
How many moments of silence are being observed anywhere for the tens of millions killed by Communism?

That would be against the Rules. Any right wing dictator, like Pinochet, is to be hounded until his dying day. Any left wing dictator must be left alone in the interest of "reconciliation." The only way communist dictators will see justice is if the people get to them before the judges and politicians, as in Romania.

12 posted on 01/25/2005 12:32:24 PM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: RtWngr
The far right is jus as bad as the far left. Just because you are right wing dies not mean those that fall farther right are somehow excusable. I say this knowing that the Nazis were a misture of Socialists and Nationalists.

Each nation's def. of what right and left is changes with borders.

For example if a monarchist is a rightist, then if are for republican democracy (small R and D - like our system's) you must be a leftist.

In America those that uphold the principles of the Founding Fathers are of the right while those that want to introduce Socialisim to the system are leftists.

13 posted on 01/25/2005 12:32:50 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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On the other hand, the fact that the allies gave a pass to Nazis elsewhere

You mean like the CIA and NASA did?

14 posted on 01/25/2005 12:33:57 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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The NPD politicians refused to honour the millions killed by the Nazis, insisting any commemoration of World War II should also recognise the allied destruction of Dresden, which they described as a "bombing holocaust".

It might be pointed out to these bozos that if they hadn't tried to annex Europe in it's entirety, they wouldn't have been bombed.

What excuse do they have for killing innocent people who did not commit a similar crime?

It amazes me that people continue to look at historical events through the lens of current morality. People change. One can't condemn people of the past for a lack of morality when said morality was created through dialogue brought about AFTER the action being condemned.

It's like saying ancient warriors who fought with swords were immoral because they didn't kill people cleanly with guns. It doesn't make sense.

15 posted on 01/25/2005 12:38:18 PM PST by Middle-O-Road (In favor of blowing all terrorists to China, via other hotter places where they'll linger a while.)
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To: Destro

Dresden was a warning to the Soviets. It was the intentional leveling of a city so the Soviet Army would not attack Allied forces and try to occupy all of Europe.

It was a very effective message that was heard loud and clear by the Soviets. Prior to Dresden some in the Soviet Army were convinced that they alone were responsible for defeating Germany and surely the Americans and British were soft and could not stand up to the Soviet Army.


16 posted on 01/25/2005 12:42:17 PM PST by taxcontrol (People are entitled to their opinion - no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: RtWngr

I wasn't aware that the Nazis/NDP were a mainstream group in modern Germany (although they made some gains last year because of their anti-immigration platform). By your logic the British will go down the same route. After all, the BNP won some seats in town councils in places like Oldham.


17 posted on 01/25/2005 12:46:23 PM PST by Youngblood
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To: Destro

Fair is fair and in retrospect, yes, it was a really bad idea to give any Nazis a pass, no matter how smart they were. Same goes for any other totalitarians elsewhere. Enough of idiotic half measures, the "War On Terror" needs to morph into the "Total War On Totalitarianism, Whatever It Takes."


18 posted on 01/25/2005 12:47:21 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: taxcontrol

I have never read that Dreseden was a warning to the Soviets. Care to back it up?


19 posted on 01/25/2005 12:48:20 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Thorin

Communism has killed over 100 million people, more than both world wars combined.

I hear in Russia they are getting all fuzzy about Stalin.

I think the reason we don't hear about this is cuz socialism and liberalism are closer down the road towards communism, while limited governent republicism is far, far away.


20 posted on 01/25/2005 12:55:00 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/blackconservatism.htm)
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