Posted on 01/25/2005 7:18:55 AM PST by dead
It's pretty obvious to this Western observer
that there are as many differing interpretations
of the tenets of Islam as there are of Christianity!
Strange, I've never read about them. Anyone have a link to one of these "Christian" honor killings?
You make a fine accessory to murder, Waleed.
lololol - Doug Henning right?
What a fag. And I don't necessarily mean in a homosexual way, just a purely insulting way.
That's funny.
Observer
harder.
Mr Western
Observer.
It doesn't matter.
The Left and terrorists use
a thought gimmick here --
Nothing Muslims do
is representative of
Islam. Everything
BAD anyone does
is representative of
the whole Western world.
Different interpretations, as used in your statement, is not an acceptable excuse for condoning killing in the name of religion. Do you know of any "Christian" religions that advocate and practice murder of those of other religions or the murder of their own members who stray from the true belief? If you can name one do you know if their practice is accepted or condemned by other Christian religions and prohibited by laws in civilized countries?
He used to annoy the hell out of me when I was a little kid. Everytime he'd do a magic trick, he would get this wide-eyed grin and act completely surprised by the outcome.
I was eight-years-old and I'd be screaming at the television, "Stop acting surprised, you dork! You're the damn magician! You knew exactly what was going to happen!"
Let me guess. You yelled at movie screens too.
"DON'T GO IN THE ALLEY! THE MURDERER IS THERE".
Like the actor is going to stop and say "Thanks, kid. You saved my life" and get a reward rather than a JuJu bean upside the head by the people behind you.
Ok, so Islam doesn't cause honor killings. It's the patriarchal feudalism of these societies that is to blame.
But notice that the author doesn't address what drives the continuation of these patriarchal feudal societies in the Middle East, Afghanistan and Pakistan? It couldn't be Islam, could it?
Comparing us to Islamicists?
Now thats just offensive.
Behold the *words of power* by which UN wonks can right every wrong, dry every tear, slay every dragon... and screw every self-sufficient societal group that doesn't take pride in its inability to flourish.
Let me guess. You yelled at movie screens too. "DON'T GO IN THE ALLEY! THE MURDERER IS THERE".
No, I yelled at the people who yelled that! “How can we have a freaking murder movie if you keep telling those idiots where the murderer is?!? Let the guy do his job!”
How is Islamic orthodoxy determined? Does an ecclesiastical hierarchy determine orthodoxy? Or is the Koran the ultimate authority?
Mohammedanism now comprises various theological schools and political factions. The Orthodox (Sunni) uphold the legitimacy of the succession of the first three caliphs, Abu Bakr, Omar, and Uthman, while the Schismatics (Shiah) champion the Divine right of Ali as against the successions of these caliphs whom they call "usurpers", and whose names, tombs, and memorials they insult and detest. The Shiah number at present about twelve million adherents, or about one-twentieth of the whole Mohammedan world, and are scattered over Persia and India. The Sunni are subdivided into four principal theological schools, or sects, viz., the Hanifites, found mostly in Turkey, Central Asia, and Northern India; the Shafites in Southern India and Egypt; the Malikites, in Morocco, Barbary, and parts of Arabia; and the Hanbalites in Central and Eastern Arabia and in some parts of Africa. The Shiah are also subdivided into various, but less important, sects. Of the proverbial seventy-three sects of Islam, thirty-two are assigned to the Shiah. The principal differences between the two are: as to the legitimate successors of Mohammed; the Shiah observe the ceremonies of the month of fasting, Muharram, in commemoration of Ali, Hasan, Husain, and Bibi Fatimah, whilst the Sunnites only regard the tenth day of that month as sacred, and as being the day on which God created Adam and Eve; the Shiah permit temporary marriages, contracted for a certain sum of money, whilst the Sunnites maintain that Mohammed forbade them; the Shi'ites include the Fire-Worshippers among the "People of the Book", whilst the Sunnites acknowledge only Jews, Christians, and Moslems as such; several minor differences in the ceremonies of prayer and ablution; the Shiah admit a principle of religious compromise in order to escape persecution and death, whilst the Sunni regard this as apostasy. There are also minor sects, the principal of which are the Aliites, or Fatimites, the Asharians, Azaragites, Babakites, Babbis, Idrisites, Ismailians and Assassins, Jabrians, Kaissanites, Karmathians, Kharjites, followers of the Mahdi, Mu'tazilites, Qadrains, Safrians, Sifatians, Sufis, Wahabis, and Zaidites. The distinctive features of these various sects are political as well as religious; only three or four of them now possess any influence. In spite of these divisions, however, the principal articles of faith and morality, and the ritual, are substantially uniform...B. Tenets
The principal tents of Mohammedanism are laid down in the Koran. As aids in interpreting the religious system of the Koran we have: first, the so-called "Traditions", which are supposed to contain supplementary teachings and doctrine of Mohammed, a very considerable part of which, however, is decidedly spurious; second, the consensus of the doctors of Islam represented by the most celebrated imâms, the founders of the various Islamic sects, the Koranic commentators and the masters of Mohammedans jurisprudence; third, the analogy, or deduction form recognized principles admitted in the Koran and in the Traditions. Mohammed's religion, known among its adherents as Islam, contains practically nothing original; it is a confused combination of native Arabian heathenism, Judaism, Christianity, Sabiism (Mandoeanism), Hanifism, and Zoroastrianism.
"Nothing Muslims do
is representative of
Islam."
I don't know of anyone here that's saying that.
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