Posted on 01/25/2005 6:13:03 AM PST by Lindykim
The Christian Underground http://www.christian-underground.com --- Intelligent Design Introduced in PA Town While ACLU Watches By Jim Brown and Jody Brown January 24, 2005
A pro-family attorney says a small Pennsylvania school district has sparked a "revolution in evolution."
Last week, the town of Dover became the first school district in the nation to officially inform students of the theory of "intelligent design" as an alternative to Darwin's theory of evolution. With the exception of about 15 students who opted out, the rest of the community's 170 ninth-grade biology students were read a four-paragraph statement that referred to evolution as a theory, not a fact. And while Darwin's theory continues to be tested, said the statement, "intelligent design is an explanation of the origin of life that differs from Darwin's view."
This all occurred despite a lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union challenging the constitutionality of Dover's science policy. The ACLU, which describes intelligent design as "an inherently religious argument or assertion made in opposition to the scientific theory of evolution," had announced they would not seek a court order to block the statement from being read to the students. Dick Thompson is president and chief counsel of the Ann Arbor, Michigan-based Thomas More Law Center, which is representing the Dover school district. He believes the ACLU and the science community are afraid that "a divine foot will be in the door" and, as a result, their "atheistic agenda" will collapse.
"It is not science versus religion that's involved here -- it's science versus science," Thompson says. "Credible scientists are now looking at the data, [such as] the indication that even the cell structure itself shows a complex machine that could not have developed by a random chance -- and therefore, intelligent design was involved." The ACLU, Thompson explains, is in a "frenzy" because of the two-word phrase "intelligent design." "They just don't want that concept to be introduced," the attorney says. "Knowing their agenda, I can understand why."
And the battle to get the concept into public science education is an important one for everyone, he says. "It's a fight not only for Christians, but it's a fight for anybody who is interested in an honest, science education," he declares. The Thomas More attorney calls it "ironic" that the ACLU, after working diligently to prevent the suppression of Darwin's theory in the historic Scopes trial, is now "doing everything it can to suppress any effort to challenge it."
Thompson says if Dover defeats the ACLU lawsuit, he is hopeful that other school districts will include the concept of intelligent design in their curriculum. The lawsuit is expected to go to trial in the early summer.
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Darwin and evolution do not even attempt to explain the origin of life.
The author of the ID statement that was read is a moron.
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Thomas More Law Center (TMLC) - http://www.thomasmore.org
American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) - http://www.aclj.org
The Rutherford Institute - http://www.rutherford.org/
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Here are a few examples of how two of those organizations are fighting back:
ADF Contacts Over 3,600 School Districts Over Attempts To Censor Christmas
ADF: 700 lawyers ready to fight ACLU lawsuits
ADF: Pentagons' Warning About Boyscouts Is Absurd
Thomas More Law Center: Town of Palm Beach Pays $50,000 In Attorney Fees Apologizes To Women In Nativity Lawsuit
Additional information:
The ACLU must be destroyed: Joseph Farah supports Boy Scouts, urges Americans to fight back
Citizens mobilized to stop ACLU (seeks to consign group to 'ash heap of history')
ACLU fulfilling communist agenda
Revealing FACTS on the ACLU from its own writings
See how YOUR Senator or Representative ranks with the ACLU
This yahoo group just started on December 3, 2004 and is looking for new members
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American Family Assn. Center for Law and Policy
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This is untrue. Ignorance always carries with it the seeds of its own destruction. Every nation that has declared 'war' on science has both lost the war and failed as a nation. If America takes that path, the same will happen again.
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How dare these people suggest another theory to the theory of evolution! :-)
Except that ID isn't even at the status of a theory. No ID researcher has ever even come up with a test for ID! Why should it be considered a scientific theory when there is no research going on in the field?
We are not declaring war on science but on 'scientism,' the philosophical and ideological faith-based belief system known as Secular Humanism/neo-Marxist socialism.
So would suppressing the fact that even Darwin acknowledged that intelligent design has a place be included in the "war" on science?
I think that science has come a long way. but to think that the universe is some Milton Bradley game, clearly marked "comprehensible to humans" like their old labels "ages 6 to 12," is unbelievable arrogance.
I'm reminded of the Monty Python and the Holy Grail movie, where they thought their "new learning" was state of the art. Are we so very much further along, considering what we can't explain and what we don't even know needs explaining yet?
To think man is the be-all and end-all certainly must be more dangerous than almost any "religious intolerance" could ever be.
I think people react to these things psychologically. No one likes hubris. Liberals think the religious right is being arrogant. Others think the scientists are, and that mention of God does not enhance a belief that "God is on our side so anything we do is right," it acts to make us HUMBLE and realize we (and the state) are not the highest authority.
Sometimes if I can try to understand why the other person thinks as they do I can try to reason with them rather than shout past each other. I don't know how successful I am. But I try, and ask them to try too.
the term "Intelligent design" sounds to me like the supreme being can use any form he/she desires to create the world/universe and if that means he wants to evolve the planet....so be it. As a fiscal AND social (for the most part) conservative I can see no reason not to say "the Lord works in mysterious ways"....that would include evolution.
The obscurantism of teaching non-science as if it were science would qualify as a "war" on science. Among other instances, the degradation of scientific rationalism via mingling with supernatural conjecture wrought the demise and downfall of the Ming Dynasty and of Ottoman Caliphate and of the Moghul Empire - ultimately permitting Europe and its heirs to conquer the world.
I say give it a shot if you want. If ID is a superior framework then in time it will prevail, although it's just a transparent variation of obsolete theories. If it's not then someday it will end up in the dustbin alongside phlogiston and the Zodiac. It's just a matter of whether the truth prevails here or elsewhere, because the truth of the universe is not contingent on persuasive rhetoric.
So the fact that schools are teaching a theory that excludes intelligent design but was developed by a man that has acknowledged intelligent design has a place isn't a problem for you?
Oh, of course not. Not in the slightest. We don't require the teaching of Pythagorean mysticism in order to teach math; or of Ptolemaic astrology in order to teach physics. The metaphysical conjecture of Darwin might be interesting of its own accord, but it certainly hasn't any bearing on the science of evolution. Moreover, science is not static or iconic, and evolution is no exception. It has moved far beyond the serendipitous rudiments formulated by Darwin.
ID is all around you AntiGuv. Different breeds of dogs, engineered wheat, microbes designed to chomp petroleum. Evolution is gonna have to roll over because the times they are a changing.
Well, we already teach animal husbandry and bioengineering so it seems our scientific establishment has accommodated your evidence of ID just fine.... ;)
ID abounds and it's going to continue to grow. RMNS is gonna have to rollover and neo Darwinists are gonna have to moderate because their reactionary attitude toward those two horrible words Intelligent Design is irrational.
You heard it here first. LOL
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