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She's coming, and we better get ready.
1 posted on 01/24/2005 5:30:56 PM PST by nj26
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Next thing you know, she'll be saying illegal immigration is a serious problem we must face. Oh, wait a minute, she already has.

Dick Morris' "triangulation" strategy for 2008 has already started!

35 posted on 01/24/2005 5:55:15 PM PST by Gritty ("...a woman's 'right to choose' what? To have her baby harmed by an assailant?-Rich Lowry)
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Garsh, Mickey...do ya think she really means it?

Oh...has her Wellesley thesis been unsealed yet?


36 posted on 01/24/2005 5:56:04 PM PST by polymuser
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"But they also said her language and themes seemed politically calculated....[to] reach out to independent and conservative voters in hopes of broadening her base of support for a possible 2008 presidential run."


Gee! How perceptive!

Let's see; first she announces that she prays all the time, now it's fewer abortions. What's next?


37 posted on 01/24/2005 5:57:41 PM PST by Maria S
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The witch better worry about her cover being blown in the Los Angeles trial that starts in March. She's got a little fund raising explaining to do. She has spent her whole life for 2008, she's running and the RAT voter fraud will be astounding.
42 posted on 01/24/2005 6:10:34 PM PST by John Lenin (You have to be a lunatic yourself to appeal to the RAT base)
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Tell that to the b*tch who created a T SHIRT that proudly proclaimed........I HAD AN ABORTION


43 posted on 01/24/2005 6:13:43 PM PST by OldFriend (America's glory is not dominion, but liberty.)
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She's triangulating.

She is a formidable foe only because the media supports her every breath and does not question all her inconsistencies, lies, "not remembering," etc.

But, what will stop her in the end are her spectacular and clear negatives (remember the firemen and cops booing here in Madisn Sq Garden?)

44 posted on 01/24/2005 6:16:55 PM PST by Pharmboy (Dems lie because they have to)
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"Mrs. Clinton, in a speech to about 1,000 abortion rights supporters at the state Capitol, firmly restated her support for the Supreme Court ruling that legalized abortion nationwide, Roe v. Wade."

The only important sentence in the article. The rest is just the Democrats new attempt at decieving people with "new political language'".


47 posted on 01/24/2005 6:22:58 PM PST by MisterRepublican ("I must go. I must be elusive.")
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Imagine Hillary in a bathing suit. Now, return to your keyboard once done vomitting.


48 posted on 01/24/2005 6:23:15 PM PST by GianniV
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Too bad Hitlery can't grow a Snidley Whiplash-style moustache.

It's sooo her.

49 posted on 01/24/2005 6:23:22 PM PST by F16Fighter
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abortions, which she called a "sad, even tragic choice to many, many women."

Serious question: what the hell does she mean? Is it a sad, tragic choice to women who are having the abortions, but have them any way, or sad or tragic to women, and men, who oppose women having abortions?

It's really not intended to say much of anything, IMHO, other than to have Hillary, in some way, shape or form, throw around the words "sad and tragic" in the same sentence as abortion, to fool people into thinking she is something other than what she is: a pro-abortion absolutist.

Of course, Hillary doesn't mention that abortion is saddest and most tragic for the baby who is killed.

52 posted on 01/24/2005 6:24:52 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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"The fact is, the best way to reduce the number of abortions is to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies in the first place," Mrs. Clinton said.

No, the best way to reduce the number of abortions is to outlaw them!

She must have figured out that the fact that Liberals/Democrats are killing their own children is probably a bad thing for them long term. Well, it's taken the L/Ds what - 30 years - to figure that out? As usual, the foundation of liberalism is always a position that is untenable.

Liberalism: A mental disorder (with acknowledgement to M. Savage).


56 posted on 01/24/2005 6:31:08 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - there are countless observable clues that God exists)
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"He who fears corruption fears life." - Saul Alinsky (Hillary's mentor)

Barbara Olson's Article on Hillary's College Thesis
entitled: "There is Only the Fight ... An Analysis of the Alinsky Model"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1035840/posts?page=73#73

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Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinsky Courtesy of The Wanderer.
Saul Alinsky and the Lessons He Taught Bill and Hillary
http://www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/Alinsky-SaulRef.html

Saul Alinsky wrote two books outlining his organizational principles and strategies: Reveille for Radicals (1946) and Rules for Radicals (1971).

Rules for Radicals opens with a quote about Lucifer, written by Saul Alinsky:

“Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins -- or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom -- Lucifer.”

....Altogether, Alinsky provides eleven rules of the ethics of means and ends.

They are morally relativistic:

.....Rules for Radicals teaches the organizer that he must give a moral appearance (as opposed to behaving morally): “All effective action requires the passport of morality.”

The tenth rule of the ethics of means and ends states “that you do what you can with what you have and clothe it with moral arguments ... Moral rationalization is indispensable at all times of action whether to justify the selection or the use of ends or means.”

Rules for Radicals provides the organizer with a tactical style for community organization that assumes an adversarial relationship between groups of people in which one either dominates or is dominated.

“The first rule of power tactics is: power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.”

“Wherever possible go outside the experience of the enemy. Here you want to cause confusion, fear, and retreat.”

“Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules. You can kill them with this. They can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.”

Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also, it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.”

“The threat is generally more terrifying than the thing itself.”

“In a fight almost anything goes. It almost reaches the point where you stop to apologize if a chance blow lands above the belt.”

“Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

One of the criteria for picking the target is the target’s vulnerability ... the other important point in the choosing of a target is that it must be a personification, not something general and abstract.”

“The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength.”

Saul Alinsky urged the active and deliberate “conscious-raising” (Ed note: a tactic used by feminists) of people through the technique of “popular education.”

Popular education is a method by which an organizer leads people to a class-based interpretation of their grievances, and to accept the organizer’s systemic solutions to address those grievances.

“Through the People’s Organization these groups [of citizens] discover that what they considered primarily their individual problem is also the problem of others, and furthermore the only hope for solving an issue of titanic proportions is by pooling all their efforts and strengths. That appreciation and conclusion is an educational process.”

Rules for Radicals stresses organizational power-collecting: “The ego of the organizer is stronger and more monumental than the ego of the leader.

The organizer is in a true sense reaching for the highest level for which a man can reach -- to create, to be a ‘great creator’, to play God.”

Alinsky considered Hillary a terrific “organizer” and wanted her to become his protege. She declined. She had bigger fish to fry. She learned her lessons well. She and Bill have employed Alinsky’s tactics probably better than anyone else.


61 posted on 01/24/2005 6:36:37 PM PST by Matchett-PI (Today's DemocRATS are either religious moral relativists, libertines or anarchists.)
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The Hillary Transformation Tour rolls on......all gleefully promoted within the pages of her PR machine - the New York Times.


62 posted on 01/24/2005 6:37:18 PM PST by Libertarian444
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Senator Clinton? If abortion had been illegal, how many step children would you have?


64 posted on 01/24/2005 6:41:53 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Don't blame me. I voted for Sharpton.)
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She's coming

Not likely.

66 posted on 01/24/2005 6:42:31 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Don't blame me. I voted for Sharpton.)
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HILLARY: What can I SAY to fool them today ..??


69 posted on 01/24/2005 6:59:18 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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You know, I'm already feeling queasy and then I have to read something like this. I guess you warned me--you said Hillary Alert which is the same as a Barf Alert.


72 posted on 01/24/2005 7:44:56 PM PST by beaversmom (The greatness of a man is measured by the fatness of his wife)
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She is blowing her wad to soon... If she goes too hard right too quick her party wont nominate her, reguardless of who she is.. I hope they do though, easy win for us.


75 posted on 01/24/2005 8:06:40 PM PST by Next_Time_NJ (NJ demorat exterminator)
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Um, who is she kidding? Doesn't she know we're on to her and there is no way in H-E-Double Two Sticks that we would ever vote for her. I would personally cast my vote for Osama Bin Laden before I'd ever cast it for Hillary.

Yes, You now are against abortion. No, your husband never inhaled.

As the kids are saying these days: "Whateva!"


78 posted on 01/24/2005 9:32:25 PM PST by Big Guy and Rusty 99 ("Drivin' in my car. Livin' like a star. Ice on my fingers n my toes n on my Taurus.")
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She can practically declare herself a conservative and the radical left will still follow and vote for her.
It is her attempt to fool a big block of voters.

She has already said and done too much to successfully run, and I do hope Rudy runs in 2006 to remove Clinton.


83 posted on 01/24/2005 10:24:52 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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