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A less conservative Bush?
Townhall.com ^ | 1/24/05 | Robert Novak

Posted on 01/24/2005 9:54:59 AM PST by M 91 u2 K

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It is in our best interest to support the President when up for election no doubt about that. But by not giving Bush pressure from the right we allow him to drift left. Since the Dems have headed to the extreme left it allows Bush to head to the Left of Center.

In the primaries in 2008 I intend to support whoever is the most viable Conservative candidate. Which so far looks like Governor Mark Sanford. Im realistic that a candidate such as Gary Bauer who 100% conservative has no chance in hell of winning. Which why I intend to support Governor Mark Sanford for now unless a more viable conservative candidate emerges such as Tom Delay.

I intend to work hard to make sure that no RINOS such as Giuliani win the GOP nomination or come close to even winning one primary or caucus. If Giuliani were to somehow tragically become the GOP nominee with changing "Flip Flopping" on positions. I would not vote for GOP ticket. But you see that is the point the fact that Giuliani is even considered a contender for the nomination of the GOP for POTUS shows you why it is important for Conservatives to stand up and have a voice. We are not NUTS like the Liberal LEft who start riots and scream like Babies.

Having Conservative Congressmen such as Duncan Hunter who have been elected and proven viable be the voice of conservatives does not hurt the GOP or our cause but help it. Right now RINOS want to take over the party and need to be fought carefully with precision and with full force. By the way it are RINOS that are the screaming cry babies who walk away when their candidate does not win the nomination. Remember the McCainiacs from 2000? In NJ when Brett Schundler a Real viable Conservative won the GOP nod for Governor all the arrogant RINOS cut off support and went into a fit. Conservatives dont need to be told to fall in line it is those RINOS that need a lecture.

1 posted on 01/24/2005 9:55:05 AM PST by M 91 u2 K
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To: M 91 u2 K

---Bush is following the advice of Richard Nixon---"run as far to the right as you have to to get elected, then govern as far to the left as you can"--


2 posted on 01/24/2005 9:59:32 AM PST by rellimpank (urban dwellers don' t understand the cultural deprivation of not being raised on a farm)
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To: M 91 u2 K

---Bush is following the advice of Richard Nixon---"run as far to the right as you have to to get elected, then govern as far to the left as you can"--


3 posted on 01/24/2005 9:59:54 AM PST by rellimpank (urban dwellers don' t understand the cultural deprivation of not being raised on a farm)
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To: M 91 u2 K

I hope Duncan Hunter runs for President in 2008. He's become one of my faves. He'd be a very strong candidate and someone to bring Republicans back to their core values. His bio doesn't hurt either.


4 posted on 01/24/2005 10:00:17 AM PST by bushfamfan
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To: M 91 u2 K

I just do not see the global crusade in Bush's speech. But other than that, Novak makes some good points.


5 posted on 01/24/2005 10:02:11 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: rellimpank
---Bush is following the advice of Richard Nixon---"run as far to the right as you have to to get elected, then govern as far to the left as you can"--

I disagree. Excluding Reagan, Bush is by far the most conservative president we have had in a long long long time.

6 posted on 01/24/2005 10:09:07 AM PST by Always Right
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Bush is following the advice of Richard Nixon---"run as far to the right as you have to to get elected, then govern as far to the left as you can."

I have to question whether he was ever a conservative. His 'left' leaning actions give cause for concern.

7 posted on 01/24/2005 10:09:32 AM PST by NRA2BFree (NO AMNESTY, NO UN!)
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To: NRA2BFree; Always Right
--I mean it in the sense that he is a political realist.

I may not like it but Ron Paul, for example, doesn't exactly get his program through Congress unchanged--

8 posted on 01/24/2005 10:16:08 AM PST by rellimpank (urban dwellers don' t understand the cultural deprivation of not being raised on a farm)
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To: Always Right

"Bush is by far the most conservative president we have had in a long long long time."

I don't know about you but if Bush gets any more conservative, I'll be financially broke </sarcasm>


9 posted on 01/24/2005 10:18:07 AM PST by politicalwit (Import poverty...hire an illegal today)
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I don't know about you but if Bush gets any more conservative, I'll be financially broke

Sorry to hear that, I am doing quite well.

10 posted on 01/24/2005 10:21:00 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right
I disagree. Excluding Reagan, Bush is by far the most conservative president we have had in a long long long time.

In exactly what way is he a conservative?

11 posted on 01/24/2005 10:24:32 AM PST by NRA2BFree (NO AMNESTY, NO UN!)
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In exactly what way is he a conservative?

He tells the UN where to shove their treaties. His court appointments are fairly conservative. He is anti-abortion and acted upon it. He has cut taxes. He is pro-military. Just to spout a few.

12 posted on 01/24/2005 10:28:58 AM PST by Always Right
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To: M 91 u2 K

I never thought he was extremely conservative in the first place so I am not sure he has "drifted" anywhere.

He does not hold all of my conservative values, but he's better than Kerry any day.

I do hope a more conservative candidate will be able to win in 08. We had more conservative choices in 2000. I voted for one of them, but they don't seem to be able to win the nominations.


13 posted on 01/24/2005 10:35:57 AM PST by housewife101
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To: Always Right
Bush is by far the most conservative president we have had in a long long long time.

As long as people recognize that Conservativism means bigger government, more welfare, more spending. Of course, many of my professors (about 40 years ago) did believe that this was the definition of Conoservatism. Kolko's book "The Triumph of Conservatism" takes this view. Of course, I've rarely know a Conservative that didn't want to make the government bigger; they wanted to police different activities than Liberals did, but not make the overall system smaller.

14 posted on 01/24/2005 10:43:12 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: dubyaismypresident; Jaysun; AVNevis; KevinDavis; traviskicks; gab1279; Ogie Oglethorpe; ...

SANFORD IN 2008 PING!


15 posted on 01/24/2005 10:46:47 AM PST by RockinRight (Sanford for President in '08!)
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Bush has not been conservative since he started signing all those big spending bills to out spend the socialist. I think that started about 6 months into the first term and he never, never vetoed one, not ONE, over spending, spending, use of taxpayer money for big programs. Not one. We got the wonderful Ted Kennedy big spending education bill, the farm bill, and all the other big spending bills. He might be conservative in some areas, but when it comes to fiscal means, nope, he is like any other politician, he spends.
16 posted on 01/24/2005 10:47:05 AM PST by RetiredArmy (The Democratic Party would make Uncle Joe Stalin Proud!)
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A less conservative Bush?

Is that possible?

17 posted on 01/24/2005 10:48:53 AM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

Mark Sanford!!!

The interesting thing about Sanford is that his ACU ratings in the House (high 80s) were lower than some we call RINO's (McCain, Liddy Dole are both in the 90 range) but I think that has more to do with his "anti-beltway" maverick streak than a lack of conservatism. Look at his record in South Carolina. This man needs to be our next President!


18 posted on 01/24/2005 10:49:17 AM PST by RockinRight (Sanford for President in '08!)
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To: M 91 u2 K

I find Bush's tone to be more philosophical and grander in scope since his re-election. He's now building a legacy and the Inaugural Speech laid down the framework for the Bush Doctrine, which could long outlive his presidency. Similarly, the State of the Union will probably give a domestic agenda that re-structures post-FDR American government.


19 posted on 01/24/2005 10:51:43 AM PST by MHT
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To: Always Right

Well since the Gipper then. Actually we've only had two fairly conservative presidents since I started voting. The first was DDE. I agree with Novak, as I've stated in other posts in the past, GWB has a free reign the next four years. It's going to be up to any conservative Representative on the hill to keep him in line with why we fought so hard to get him re-elected. May God help us all!


20 posted on 01/24/2005 10:54:31 AM PST by Paperdoll (GO ROSSI!!!!!)
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