Holocaust memorial opens in Paris

BBC World News ^ | 23 Jan 2005 | BBC World Report

[Atlantic Friend]

Hi, Michael, how are you ?

[Atlantic Friend]

"The French and Germans still despise Jews today, btw."

My, would you happen be a world expert on French and German psyche ? I mean, you should, since you so easily manage to read the collective minds of 150 million people and get to know what they think better than themselves... Did you go to either France or Germany ? And if so, please tell me what were the surefire telltale signs of despise for Jewish people in either country...

[muir_redwoods]

I suppose this monument is even bigger than the one that houses the "French Heroes of WWII" memorial they are building in Vichy.

Of course phone booths are bigger than that one.

[Kelly_2000]

"My, would you happen be a world expert on French and German psyche ?"

it would seem that way LOL

[Michael81Dus]

Still fine, thanks, what about you? These French- & German-bashers are annoying, because they rather believe in and spread false allegations instead of information.

[Kelly_2000]

to them an allegation and a fact are no different

[Michael81Dus]

... at least when it´s against Germany or France, lol.

[kingsurfer]

I have to say that French bashing can be fun but when people start to insult the country in terms of its cheese, wine and scenery I will stand up for them.

And as for their Brandy, well it is not comparable.

[mewzilla]

And if so, please tell me what were the surefire telltale signs of despise for Jewish people in either country...

Then or now?

[Michael81Dus]

I´m with you. I love French cheese. It´s a shame that you have so lousy sorts of cheese over there in the States. And the imported goods are expensive.

[Michael81Dus]

Now, more concrete: at the time when he/she has visited Germany and/or France.

[kingsurfer]

Us cheese is very commercialised.
British cheese has good cheese. Very strong and very creamy.
Proper Westcountry Cheddar cheese tastes nothing like the crap in stores. Unless it smells of cow manure it aint the real thing.

[Michael81Dus]

Maybe, but then again, you have no good bread for cheese. I think of real bread...

*singing* "It´s a shame....shame... such a shame. ... It´s a sh-ame!" ;-)

[mewzilla]

Well, I haven't been across the pond in a few years. I hope it has improved.

[Michael81Dus]

Which experience did you have with anti-semitism in Europe (seen by your own eyes)?

[Atlantic Friend]

Now, of course.

[Atlantic Friend]

That's what bothers me most - the willingness to spread what they must know is false information, pure propaganda. I sometimes fail to see the difference between the Jew-bashing of the 1930s and the EU-bashing of the 2000s.

Both revolve on some kind of "racial inferiority", or "cultural indigence", or "absence of moral fiber". How original !

What are the big news in Germany right now, Michael ?

[PGalt]

Thanks for the first hand report with specific examples.

[Ulysse]

I disagree with the french "ambassadors" on this thread and
I AM FRENCH for Bush since a long time!
The new attitude of french government toward US administration is only diplomacy.BARNIER said FRANCE will never send any soldier in IRAK.
CHIRAC since many years deny the evidence, the fact of the christian roots of EUROPE.He refused to mention it in European constitution.
Concerning antisemitism in FRANCE i think CHIRAC is not credible.I don't believe hese words, good words,and i look facts and hese political choices in foreign policy.(note that CHIRAC is not very clear about collaboration with nazi of french people about antisemitism)

This government made everything they could,till lying,till dishonesty, with the help of public media,against the Bush administration and against Bush reelection...

[Kelly_2000]

Sorry but that is complete rubbish